WOW , COUNT TO TEN ,take a deep breath, take a break , or vape a bit . Whats the big deal dude , it's a free country start your own forum , for cryin out loud . With all due respect , whats the big deal . I for one do not care who makes a buck if it cost me nothing . Clones ? PEOPLE CLONE EVERY PRODUCT ON THE market, under the sun..It's the free market . If your product is worth it , what the hell . Its a forum , free speech , learn and contribute , pass the time , what ever , you can always tune out dude. JOE ,...... never asked me or anyone else to listen to him . A guy doing what he wants . OK off my soap box .