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Read all you can about alternate wire. Some contain metals, even in minute quantities, you wouldn't want to inhale. Also, some wire will not easily support compressed coils (without shorting - one coil to the other).
Kanthal contains aluminum, that when heated sufficiently (typically in the first 1-2 dry burns) turns to an 'alumina' (aluminum oxide) layer, which serves as both an electrically insulative and thermally conductive protective barrier for the iron/chromium primary content.
It may be that you have a sensitivity to iron... the most commonly 'tasted' metal. This can most frequently occur when the alumina content of Kanthal is exhausted... after frequent use and dry burns. It can also be visually identified by a black speckled appearance in the otherwise clean, silvery (or silvery-bluish) color... an indication the aluminum content is nearly gone.
Kanthal contains aluminum, that when heated sufficiently (typically in the first 1-2 dry burns) turns to an 'alumina' (aluminum oxide) layer, which serves as both an electrically insulative and thermally conductive protective barrier for the iron/chromium primary content.
It may be that you have a sensitivity to iron... the most commonly 'tasted' metal. This can most frequently occur when the alumina content of Kanthal is exhausted... after frequent use and dry burns. It can also be visually identified by a black speckled appearance in the otherwise clean, silvery (or silvery-bluish) color... an indication the aluminum content is nearly gone.
nice reply!
the wire cant be exhausted. even brand new coils have a slightly metally taste. its VERY minimal, but i can taste something. it doesnt really bother me much, but i was curious what other types of wire are available.
does or has anyone used titanium wire? btw... i meant for this thread to be titled titanium wire and not platinum... not sure where that came from.
the wire cant be exhausted. even brand new coils have a slightly metally taste. its VERY minimal, but i can taste something. it doesnt really bother me much, but i was curious what other types of wire are available.
does or has anyone used titanium wire? btw... i meant for this thread to be titled titanium wire and not platinum... not sure where that came from.
i get it from the vendor on ebay that vapor joe always posts about on the other site.
the "why buy wire from anywhere else?" ebay vendor. i would imagine that if VJ is recommending them that its properly treated.
so instead of asking who here is using other types of wire... i suppose i should ask... what other options are there for wire?
Iv'e only seen SS used as wick, either wire or mesh, but not as a coil.
I suppose it could be used if properly oxidized, but not as easy to work with as kanthal.
I suppose it could be used if properly oxidized, but not as easy to work with as kanthal.
If you're a millionaire, you can try platinum wire I suppose - to vape in your Bugatti Veyron no doubt. Me, if I had the money, I'd try gold: it's as inert and non-reactive a metal as you can find.
As for weird tastes from new coils, that's from leftover machining oil, not from the metal itself.
As for weird tastes from new coils, that's from leftover machining oil, not from the metal itself.
Besides SS is more conductive then kanthal which means you will need much higher wattage for the same gauge coil, in order to reach the same heat.
Changing what i said before, there are builds which i know that include SS mech in addition to kanthal, but not SS alone.
Changing what i said before, there are builds which i know that include SS mech in addition to kanthal, but not SS alone.
No, you'll need a lower voltage - and a higher amp rating for your mod. The power stays the same.
The problem with wire that isn't designed to be heating wire is how well it fares at higher temperature. And also whether it'll oxydize at the post connections, which will break the circuit.
The problem with wire that isn't designed to be heating wire is how well it fares at higher temperature. And also whether it'll oxydize at the post connections, which will break the circuit.
To make a long story short, non resistant wire alone is not intended for coils.
A ceramic coil like vapin donuts might be a solution for you.
A ceramic coil like vapin donuts might be a solution for you.
Let me rephrase what i said, using a conductive wire of the same gauge as kanthal will require a lot more wraps in order to reach the same resistance, which will cause it to heat up much slower, which will require you to raise your wattage in order for it to function properly.
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regardless of your choice, always anneal your wire yourself before wrapping. the vendor VJ posts about (Lightning Vapes) as well as TEMCO, both anneal their wires before sale. however, annealing yourself helps remove any additional machine oil they might have left behind. further, it makes the wires more malleable and easier to wrap. to anneal, run a lighter along the length of your wire a couple of times.
off taste could be from a coil that hasnt been broken in (first few vapes), or poor wicking, or shorts. be sure to make sure your coil is heating evenly from the inside out by pulsing and squeezing- this will eliminate shorts. read up on proper wicking, and break that coil in. you should be a-ok from there, unless of course you have a sensitivity to a certain type of wire and if thats the case, im out of advice because im not familiar with that personally.
nichrome 80
g-plat
possibly others
regardless of your choice, always anneal your wire yourself before wrapping. the vendor VJ posts about (Lightning Vapes) as well as TEMCO, both anneal their wires before sale. however, annealing yourself helps remove any additional machine oil they might have left behind. further, it makes the wires more malleable and easier to wrap. to anneal, run a lighter along the length of your wire a couple of times.
off taste could be from a coil that hasnt been broken in (first few vapes), or poor wicking, or shorts. be sure to make sure your coil is heating evenly from the inside out by pulsing and squeezing- this will eliminate shorts. read up on proper wicking, and break that coil in. you should be a-ok from there, unless of course you have a sensitivity to a certain type of wire and if thats the case, im out of advice because im not familiar with that personally.
hey everyone... i suppose i should ask the mods to change the name of this thread. i totally meant for it to be "titanium wire" and not platinum. not sure how i screwed that up.
anyway, there is a lot of discussion online about titanium wire (reddit, ECF). i am surprised to see no talk of it on this forum. i am convinced i am going to give titanium a try, but i was hoping for some guidance on where to shop for it. and for any advise one may have that has tried it.
any help is appreciated.
anyway, there is a lot of discussion online about titanium wire (reddit, ECF). i am surprised to see no talk of it on this forum. i am convinced i am going to give titanium a try, but i was hoping for some guidance on where to shop for it. and for any advise one may have that has tried it.
any help is appreciated.
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I use titanium wire every chance I get. I bought my grade 1 ti wire online from a place called Etsy. I bought what is 24 gauge and 30 gauge, but they measure it in mm. I only use the 24 gauge, the 30 gauge I havent had luck with. The same diameter and number of coils in 28 gauge kanthal is approx 0.9 ohms and in 24 gauge ti is approx 0.3 ohms. So it may not be for everyone. I build to .3-.4 ohm coils on kayfuns that are drilled and dremeled out and it's all I need,,, most times,,,
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Just an idea, but you might want to try Vaping Donuts (ceramic).
I just got some of these to try for juice testing. I don't have enough experience to give them a thumbs up or down, but they certainly have no taste and so far are war working better than most reviews I saw.
I just got some of these to try for juice testing. I don't have enough experience to give them a thumbs up or down, but they certainly have no taste and so far are war working better than most reviews I saw.
This^^
I ONLY buy my wire from Temco. Great pricing, and definitely legit wire for sure.
I don't 'anneal' my wire per se, but I do pulse the shit out of my coils before wicking
this is what im looking for! thank you! ill check out etsy.
does temco offer Ti wire?
Pretty much all metals contain stuff thats not good to be inhaled, but all of those metals have a vaporisation point so high that its practically impossible to get those in your system.
Kind of offtopic, but knowledge never hurts.
Kind of offtopic, but knowledge never hurts.
When kanthal and ss oxidizes the outer layer becomes non conductive and that's a good thing.
If you took a non reactive metal that would not oxides that would not happen and the coil would short if it touches itself.
If you took a non reactive metal that would not oxides that would not happen and the coil would short if it touches itself.
Iv'e heard of some guys over here, trying titanium wire with poor results.
It's much more conductive then kanthal, it's super springy and does not soften when heated, it breaks and it's close to impossible to do anything other then a mesh build with it.
It's much more conductive then kanthal, it's super springy and does not soften when heated, it breaks and it's close to impossible to do anything other then a mesh build with it.
ive read that its MUCH easier to work with after its been heated and seen where some are having great results.
I am currently researching the same thing: platinum or 24k gold wire. When studying microbiology, we used platinum wire as the best temperature resistant metal. I am interested in building a coil with 30 gauge Pt wire. Ebay has excellent options to buy the platinum wire. I am just not sure what to do.
Damn dude, you sure your name isn't Bill Gates? 24 gauge platinum wire is about 20 bucks an inch. 32 gauge is about 10 bucks an inch.
This guy on ebay has all the different gauges of Titanium wire. His wire is called "Master of Clouds", so I assume it's intended for vaping !!
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The platinum suppose to last a lot longer, that's why. No replacement for a long time.
At $20 an inch it would have to last years LOL My kanthal coils last for months!
Interesting user name, by the way!
Lasts for months and costs a whopping 5 cents for a set of coils
for the record... i meant for this thread to be about titanium. i have no idea why platinum made its way into the title or my post, but it did.
I've been using platinum wire for about 6 months now. I can't go back to any other wire now; I use SS316 for complex wire builds but it doesn't take long before I can start tasting the wire.
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$6/inch, just need a connection through a jeweler's supply - they use 24 gauge platinum as soldering wire. but for a vaper, I see that wire very differently
And if I ever stop using them, I can recycle the wire at 80% current market price.
And if I ever stop using them, I can recycle the wire at 80% current market price.
I used Ti for a short time. To fussy for me, can't dry burn it, be careful not to exceed some temp, etc.
I went with SS430 because it is easy enough to work with, I can dry burn it, it works in TC and power modes, and it has a higher TCR than other SS wires.
As for tasting the wire, I don't. You might.
$10 for a 200' spool of it, give it a try before you go with Ti.