Mother's Milk by Suicide Bunny

shivatrance · Jul 22, 2014

I have been addicted to this flavor for a while now but can't afford the price for an adv. Help!

CJ · Jul 26, 2014

Here's a recipe I haven't mixed but have heard good things about.

Bavarian Cream (TPA) - 3%
Cheesecake New York Style (LA) - 6%
Marshmallow (Cap) - 0.5%
Premium Vanilla Cream (MFS) - 1%
Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) - 6%
Sweet Cream (TPA) - 2%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA) - 3%
Vanilla Custard (TPA) - 2.5%

iLLwiLL · Jul 26, 2014

Thats almost exactly what I use, and its really tasty. Got it off the ecf fourm, page 9 in some diy thread about mothers milk

shivatrance · Jul 26, 2014

Nice! Thanks!

travanx · Jul 27, 2014

Just mixed some of that and letting it steep. Never picked up vanilla cream though, so I will see how this one turns out.

Tekn0ph1sh · Jul 31, 2014

Cheesecake? I don't taste that at all in MM. Maybe it's the way it's blended.

ktrilla · Sep 9, 2014

CJ said:
Here's a recipe I haven't mixed but have heard good things about.

Bavarian Cream (TPA) - 3%
Cheesecake New York Style (LA) - 6%
Marshmallow (Cap) - 0.5%
Premium Vanilla Cream (MFS) - 1%
Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) - 6%
Sweet Cream (TPA) - 2%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA) - 3%
Vanilla Custard (TPA) - 2.5%

Sorry new here. Whats MFS stand for ?

VapingJunkie · Sep 9, 2014

My freedom smokes . Com

Sent from the Otter Box around my Galaxy S4.

ktrilla · Sep 9, 2014

where do most of you guys order your flavoring from ?

VapingJunkie · Sep 9, 2014

I hear Bull City has great selection and customer service, but I haven't personally ordered from them.

Sent from the Otter Box around my Galaxy S4.

CJ · Sep 11, 2014

Bull City Vapors is where I order anything I use that's not wholesale size(s).

EthelMaltol · Sep 11, 2014

Onestopdiyshop.com has a great selection from various vendors.

InMyImage · Sep 11, 2014

Got all mine from wizardlabs.us

Botboy141 · Sep 12, 2014

I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

Johnny8s · Oct 15, 2014

Botboy141 said:
I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

Would Cap's Custard V2 produce the same results?

Botboy141 · Oct 15, 2014

Johnny8s said:
Would Cap's Custard V2 produce the same results?

Yes, just need an extra 3-4 day steep time to get it there. I've found the Butyric Acid taste takes a little bit longer to settle down in their V2 stuff, as well as in TFA's Vanilla Bean Gelato, French Vanilla Creme, etc.

captaincannibal · Oct 21, 2014

Botboy141 said:
I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

Any idea if TPA French Vanilla Deluxe would work here? Maybe if I take it down to 1% or something?

Botboy141 · Oct 22, 2014

captaincannibal said:
Any idea if TPA French Vanilla Deluxe would work here? Maybe if I take it down to 1% or something?

I would not reduce it by too much but yeah it'll work really well here. FVD always seemed a little creamier to me actually. FYI contains acetoin/acetyl propionyl which the regular does not.

sturat · Oct 22, 2014

I cant seem to find TPA French vanilla but I do see TFA? Sorry I am new to this and just trying to figure it all out.

Botboy141 · Oct 22, 2014

sturat said:
I cant seem to find TPA French vanilla but I do see TFA? Sorry I am new to this and just trying to figure it all out.

Same thing. TFA is 'The Flavor Apprentice' a division of TPA 'The Perfumers Apprentice'.

shop.Perfumersapprentice.com/default.aspx

Oh and let's not forget also called Signature if ordering from ECX.

Delion · Oct 22, 2014

sturat said:
I cant seem to find TPA French vanilla but I do see TFA? Sorry I am new to this and just trying to figure it all out.

TPA And TFA are the same company The Flavor Apprentice also The Perfumers Apprentice

captaincannibal · Oct 22, 2014

Botboy141 said:
I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

Just made a bottle with 2% French Vanilla Deluxe and Marshmallow instead of sweetener. Smells yummy. Haven't had MM in a while but I bet this is closer than most I've tried. They all seem to be stuck on Pear instead of Coconut but this Coconut smells way closer.

Botboy141 · Oct 23, 2014

captaincannibal said:
Just made a bottle with 2% French Vanilla Deluxe and Marshmallow instead of sweetener. Smells yummy. Haven't had MM in a while but I bet this is closer than most I've tried. They all seem to be stuck on Pear instead of Coconut but this Coconut smells way closer.

Like I said, I can't tell you which is which when I vape them. I'm not a huge MM fan personally, but that was the best recipe I had found (don't think I twinked it) no clue where it came from. They are definitely different, subtle, but different. Not sure which I like more lol.

brewersvapes · Oct 23, 2014

now that we have all mixed up some of this mothers milk which of the two recipes do you all think is the one that is spot on???

Vermiform · Oct 23, 2014

Any diacetyl free recipes?

AmandaD · Oct 23, 2014

Vermiform said:
Any diacetyl free recipes?

Try substituting Caps V2 custard instead. It has the same funky (to me) taste!

Botboy141 · Oct 23, 2014

Unfortunately the bavarian cream would need to go as well to be dicetyl free. I'm working on a diacetyl free strawberry custard but it won't wind up tasting much like MM I don't think.

AmandaD · Oct 23, 2014

There's no actual diacetyl in TFA flavorings.....there are some diketones, where noted in their literature.

Botboy141 · Oct 23, 2014

AmandaD said:
There's no actual diacetyl in TFA flavorings.....there are some diketones, where noted in their literature.

True and while I'm on mobile and too lazy to dig up the link, TFA clearly states that there acetoin and acetyl propionyl that their manufacturer uses are 90-97% pure with some of the non pure portion containing diacetyl.

It's trace, but it's there if you run an analysis on it.

sturat · Oct 29, 2014

I see where the ejuice calculaters ask for water/vodka/PGA, what is this what should I use if any of them. What is the reason for needing to add them??

dre · Oct 29, 2014

sturat said:
I see where the ejuice calculaters ask for water/vodka/PGA, what is this what should I use if any of them. What is the reason for needing to add them??

Its used to thin out the liquid

Smoky Blue · Oct 29, 2014

sturat said:
I see where the ejuice calculaters ask for water/vodka/PGA, what is this what should I use if any of them. What is the reason for needing to add them??

water: to thin out..
vodka: for throat hit
pga: for homemade extracts

trendkill84 · Nov 8, 2014

Here is my version. My customers go crazy over it.
Ripe Strawberry 10% TFA
Vanilla Custard 4% Cap
Bavarian Cream 3% TFA
Cheese Cake 3% TFA
Vanillin 3% TFA

sturat · Nov 21, 2014

Botboy141 said:
I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

I made this as my first DIY batch Monday night. Had to sample it and I have to say pretty darn good. Next time I might add a little more strawberry for me. I can not wait until this has fully steeped so I can really give a try. I am now all about making my own juice.. Can not believe at how easy and cheap it is.. Made a 30ML bottle with 6 flavors and only cost me $1.69 to make that bottle. Even the intial cost was not bad.. Spent like $35.00 to get started with flavoring left over for the next batches.
Ordered a bunch more flavors yesterday and more PG/VG and nicotine, now that I know I can do this and really like the results.

Botboy141 · Nov 21, 2014

sturat said:
I made this as my first DIY batch Monday night. Had to sample it and I have to say pretty darn good. Next time I might add a little more strawberry for me. I can not wait until this has fully steeped so I can really give a try. I am now all about making my own juice.. Can not believe at how easy and cheap it is.. Made a 30ML bottle with 6 flavors and only cost me $1.69 to make that bottle. Even the intial cost was not bad.. Spent like $35.00 to get started with flavoring left over for the next batches.
Ordered a bunch more flavors yesterday and more PG/VG and nicotine, now that I know I can do this and really like the results.

Welcome to the fun! Just wait til you start buying in bulk and 30ml costs you just under $1.00!

sturat · Nov 21, 2014

Botboy141 said:
Welcome to the fun! Just wait til you start buying in bulk and 30ml costs you just under $1.00!

Me either... The cost was not that big of an issue with a cartomizer, a 30ml would last days and days.. Started dripping and not so much! Was just about the same price as smoking cigs..

dre · Nov 21, 2014

sturat said:
Me either... The cost was not that big of an issue with a cartomizer, a 30ml would last days and days.. Started dripping and not so much! Was just about the same price as smoking cigs..

A 120 ml bottle of mothers milk lasted me 2 weeks I was so sad and there so hard to find. It was a birthday present. The best I've had in years.

Johnny8s · Dec 7, 2014

trendkill84 said:
Here is my version. My customers go crazy over it.
Ripe Strawberry 10% TFA
Vanilla Custard 4% Cap
Bavarian Cream 3% TFA
Cheese Cake 3% TFA
Vanillin 3% TFA

Would 8% of that mixed to base be a good starting point?

Johnny8s · Dec 7, 2014

Botboy141 said:
I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

Do you use that recipe full strength? Would 8% do it?

Smoky Blue · Dec 7, 2014

looks like he is just using percentages, Johnny..

i wouldnt cut it.. just follow the recipe..

Johnny8s · Dec 8, 2014

Smoky Blue said:
looks like he is just using percentages, Johnny..

i wouldnt cut it.. just follow the recipe..

I don't know about that. lol 15% ?
The other one at 23%?
Ah, Duh! I'm thinking FA concentrations.

ThPhttttttt

Heh heh.

Botboy141 · Dec 8, 2014

Yeah not FA we're dealing with here. These concentrations are excellent for mixing high VG and dripping and still come through superbly in a tank when mixing 40/60 PG/VG or so.

Johnny8s · Dec 11, 2014

Botboy141 said:
Yeah not FA we're dealing with here. These concentrations are excellent for mixing high VG and dripping and still come through superbly in a tank when mixing 40/60 PG/VG or so.

Thanks Bud, much appreciated.

daddybizzle · Dec 14, 2014

trendkill84 said:
Here is my version. My customers go crazy over it.
Ripe Strawberry 10% TFA
Vanilla Custard 4% Cap
Bavarian Cream 3% TFA
Cheese Cake 3% TFA
Vanillin 3% TFA

Botboy141 said:
I use a drastically different variation of what's posted above. I won't dare to call it 100% clone, but if I drip each of them in a different dripper and then test, I can't tell you which is Suicide Bunny and which is mine.

CAP Vanilla Custard - 7%
TPA French Vanilla - 2.1%
TPA Bavarian Cream - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.6%
TPA Coconut Extra - 0.5%
TPA Sweetener - 2% (can swap for Marshmallow IMO)

I usually let it cure for close to a month (I'm not a fan of speed steeping).

Warning: Lots of acetoin here

Just mixed up 10ml batches of each of these. I'm going to let them naturally steep. Will visit them in a week or so. 2 very different approaches. Trend's with strawberry as the predominate flavor and Bot's with the vanillas. Curious to see how they come out. I made a recipe for a banana based (Nesquik milk) type flavored juice many years back. It was pretty dead on. Back 5 years ago people would comment on the aroma and ask what it was. You should have seen some of the looks and heard some of the responses... Your smoking milk??? How vaping has changed.

Wabah58 · Dec 14, 2014

Gonna give it a mix and see, glad to be getting use out of the TFA cheesecake.

HukIt · Jan 7, 2015

daddybizzle said:
Just mixed up 10ml batches of each of these. I'm going to let them naturally steep. Will visit them in a week or so. 2 very different approaches. Trend's with strawberry as the predominate flavor and Bot's with the vanillas. Curious to see how they come out. I made a recipe for a banana based (Nesquik milk) type flavored juice many years back. It was pretty dead on. Back 5 years ago people would comment on the aroma and ask what it was. You should have seen some of the looks and heard some of the responses... Your smoking milk??? How vaping has changed.

How'd it go?

If you want to clone MM you need a drop or two of orange cream. (something that I read not tested)

Jasonfox1988 · Sep 7, 2015

talonz · Sep 7, 2015

@Jasonfox1988 and I thought I was the only one scouring the old postings! Thanks for the recipe!

Jasonfox1988 · Sep 8, 2015

talonz said:
@Jasonfox1988 and I thought I was the only one scouring the old postings! Thanks for the recipe!

Haha i was in browsing mode

srgz · Oct 24, 2015

Johnny8s said:
I don't know about that. lol 15% ?
The other one at 23%?
Ah, Duh! I'm thinking FA concentrations. ThPhttttttt Heh heh.

Hi --- newb here, what is "FA concentrations" ? Can anyone explain? Is FA FlavorArt? Thanks!

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