https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp...._wonder_how_much_and_how_long_it_takes_for_a/
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lmao. Did you even bother to read the link I provided? You give us a link to a Reddit post? One that falsely states "a potentially lethal 30mg dose " ? Please read the link I provided above first. And then go spread nonsense if you wish, but at least you had a chance to read facts.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp...._wonder_how_much_and_how_long_it_takes_for_a/
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lmao. Did you even bother to read the link I provided? You give us a link to a Reddit post? One that falsely states "a potentially lethal 30mg dose " ? Please read the link I provided above first. And then go spread nonsense if you wish, but at least you had a chance to read facts.
How about reading the link I provided on Nicotine Toxicity first, and stop providing erroneous information?Handling nicotine, a chemists perspectiveDIY E-liquid (self.electronic_cigarette)
submitted 3 years ago by fenrisulfur
Now I have been thinking some about people making their own nicotine solutions and I have seen some make statements that are both a hyperbole and too blasé over its handling.
I am a chemist that has about 10 years experience in working in a lab and as a TA teaching first and second year chemistry labs, everything I say here is not god's honest truth and you should use your common sense when handling nicotine solutions, these are just thoughts and things I have seen people do that I hope to make thing a bit clearer. I however have not personally handled nic in high concentrations, this is just me talking generally from experience in working with hazardous chemicals.
Gloves: Now this might come as a shock to you but I don´t think you should use gloves every time you handle strong nicotine solutions, gloves give people a false sense of security. Although they protect you from harm they do not clean themselves and I would be a rich man if I had a dollar for every time I have gotten an acid burn from handles and ledges of fume hoods because someone had his gloves on and had them covered with sulfuric acid while pawing everything under the sun. The burns I saw most often where on the bridge of peoples noses from when they had their gloves covered and pushed their glasses up and on the palms of their hands, and on palms from taking soiled gloves off. So when you have gloves be very aware off what is on them and act accordingly. I myself do not use gloves unless the chemical I am working with will have an immediate ill effect on me or when I know the substance has a history off toxicity. When I do use gloves I change them frequently and I do not leave the area when the substance is with them on so as not to contaminate my surroundings. Safety glasses however are a must and should be worn at any time really, ok perhaps not if you are dripping or such things but every time you are mixing you should use them, they have saved my eyes more often that I can count. Here are a pair that are dirt cheap really comfortable and rather stylish if I might be so forward to say so
0-24 mg/mL: at this concentration you really do not need any special precautions except for cleaning up spills, especially if you have children and/or pets in you household and if you are handling hundreds of mL's, if you spill a couple off mills on the floor and your pooch licks it up it could potentially kill it or at least you will get a really sick dog with vomiting and such. Double that risk for small children. Bottom line then, be aware that this is not good for children or pets and the higher the concentration the higher the care.
36-72 mg/mL: Here we have a concentration you will have to be more safety aware, do not keep liquids of these even visible for children. Here we are going onto the territory of getting nicotine poisoning from having your skin exposed to. Remember the higher the conc. the higher the risk. I myself would not use gloves as I would be much more aware off any smudges on my bare skin. I know I would have plenty of time to go to the sink and wash before I would feel any ill effect. Of course if you are handling hundreds of mL's in an open container you should be quite careful, only use in places that do not have any kids or pets as this could possibly spell a disaster. Remember if you do use gloves do not leave the area with them on or if you do only move to the sink to wash off without touching anything unless you have made sure your gloves are not contaminated.
70~150 mg/mL: Now here I have to admit that my inexperience with base nic is starting to hinder my advice but if you hold a gun to my head I would recommend that you start using gloves in a space that is dedicated for this kind of work, that is not your kitchen. Use a shed or someplace you are NOT disturbed, do not walk away from your work and be very, very aware of any spills or if you get anything on your clothing or gloves. I would recommend against working with these concentrations in any serious amounts. I am not sure how readily it evaporates but the boiling point is at 247°C so I do not think it doe much of that especially if you have it in solution but as a precaution handle lager amounts in a well ventilated area.
150-1000 mg/mL (i.e. 100% nicotine): Now from here on I would recommend that you handle every solutions from 15% up as pure nicotine and I cannot recommend that it is handled by anyone except people used to work with such things under a fume hood with face protection (that is a face shield). Or outside geared up in a chemical apron and face shield by someone used to handle such things.
Now like said these are just my thought and if there is someone that can point out a better way I will edit my text properly scolded.
Thank you for your time.
How about reading the link I provided on Nicotine Toxicity first, and stop providing erroneous information?
I mix 100 mg/ml nic all the time, carefully, latex gloves on, with a ventilation fan running. though that's not required, there are no powerful toxic fumes. If I were to spill it on me, the sinks right there, no hazmat suit, no SCBA, no shitting in my pants, just wash it off
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haha, no bitter here, just amusement, lol. I find it amusing that people totally skip overr a link that someone posts with facts, and then continues to post bad information, its fun to be skeered i guessWow, put your handbag away. Your a very bitter, short fused individual aren't you. Yawn
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haha, no bitter here, just amusement, lol. I find it amusing that people totally skip overr a link that someone posts with facts, and then continues to post bad information, its fun to be skeered i guess
Never debate a factual link like this:It's called debating, smashing down other people is a different matter entirely
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I posted a link to science. It's not my theory, its scientific research.How about we test your theory? Feel like being our test subject wolf?
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For the record, I'm not going to let anyone here who shitz their pants over 400 mg/ml nic and how to get rid of it (call 911, wear scuba, lol) go camping in the wilderness with me. You will shit and take off running at the sound of a hoot owl, lol
lolJeez are you still going on. Move on bro and chill out
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Edit: In retrospect think you're right about one thing -I should chill out, haha. But I'm not going to move on from this thread when I see inaccurate information, ."
well my recommendation is that we not let children get hold of any nicotine, and if someone has a nicotine allergy i don't think they could smoke or vape.This dude could have been way less of a dick and just added 360ml's of PG or VG to the nic before bothering to send it to you.
I guess he may have thought that you were experienced enough to handle it which makes no sense.
Some vendors won't even deal with concentrations that high.
Unless a vendor has a distributor making the juice in an automatic bottling machine or an extensive background in chemistry then I don't think anyone is "experienced" enough to handle more than 200ml/ml.
I would say with the "one drop of pure nic will kill ya" thing that it may be possible if it were a small child or someone with some sort of nicotine allergy.
But I wouldn't want to fuck around and find out.
Thanks for the real life example. Until they've done their homework, noobs shouldn't be messing with 100 mg/ml, much less 1000 mg/ml. when I was a noob, I didn't, lol. I've used it safely and carefully for a long time now. If I ever get any on me, the sink is right there, I will wash it off and go on about my business instead of messing my pantsLet me point out that some noobs, 2 or 3, posting on VU some time back did mix 1000mg as 100mg in juice and vape it and got 1000mg on their skin. No one died. They got a bit nic sick, but no hospital visits.
I'm not bored enough to go back and find those threads for the "one drop will kill you" folks.
A person should be careful with 1000mg(or consentrations that are high) but the "one drop will kill you" mantra is pure(1000mg/ml) fear mongering.
lol. I think I suggested as much a page or two back ... just do things slowly with a little water running in your sink and you will be fine.Ok so my local vape shop told me to dump it down the drain. Wish me luck!
use that solution to kill off creepy crawlers in the back yard.
He does have a serious problem and the information I supplied was from a chemist. When I came back on here to see all his writing I then knew he has a problem.Jeez are you still going on. Move on bro and chill out
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No I have even got 60mg on me and all I got was little sick but then 1000 would of been a complete different storyHey I spilled my 48MG/ML once and had my whole hand covered in it should have have run to the ER? Shouldn't I be dead right now?
It was actually 6% 6o mg And I was referring to 1000% or 99.8 pure just did not say, so is this weaker than 48mg lolWell if you did the math what I spilled of the 48MG would have been 10 Times what 1,000 MG would have been. Believe it or not I only cleaned up wth pa[er towels because I was more concerned with the mess I made. I guess I should have gotten sick or some other BS imagined effect of getting so much nicotine on my skin. Oh shit what did I do? Fucking BS you have actually gotten sick from momentary exposure.
Once again 6% 6omg is what I got on me and made me sick. The 1000% 99.8 % pure is what I was referring to in the beginning of this thread. I would never use this strength as I said previously because it will kill you.So you are saying you actually worked with pure Nicotine? I asked where did you get 60ML nicotine from? OK sure you made it I guess! You are so all over the place it is laughable.
Lol this is why most reputable companies will not sell nic any higher than around 100mgAgain 6% is or 6MG/Ml is an unusual concentration to have and your insistence of that concentration is what proves it is BS because you never said where it came from. Again I call BULL SHIT. Leave me alone and stop quoting me because I won't believe you if you say the sky is blue at this point
Lol this is why most reputable companies will not sell nic any higher than around 100mg
Lol this is why most reputable companies will not sell nic any higher than around 100mg
But, I agree that YOU should not use it. Or take a bath. The water in the tub could kill you. You don't seem smart enough to not drown.
You are the one that quoted me over and over and as far as 6% 60 mg being being unusual concentration I have been buying it from wizard labs for almost 6 years now lol.No matter if you actually post a link to some real scientific data it doesn't matter to me because I will never even spend the time to see if it is accurate from now on so pleas STOP fucking quoting me or you will be ignored with the rest of the assholes.
lol, well Wally, the only "problem" I see is this false shrill claim you made - twice in this thread. And that's your problem, not mine.If it was 1000 mg then one drop your skin could kill you.