Advice for getting the most from my 100w mod

[Fudgey Finger]

I have an Aegis 100w mod and I"ve never been able to get the performance out of it that I want. I've taken care of some issues and it's working better for me, but 100w just hasn't been enough power for me. I wanted to get some advice on how to get the cloudiest, warmest vape possible from a single Ijoy 26650 while still running dual coils. Something that will be fairly consistent. So far the best I've been able to is get is good performance for 20 puffs or so, then the vape turns anemic for the rest of the charge. What can I do to get more consistent performance out of this mod?

Some info about the mod-
Can use coils as low as 0.05
The mod has standard wattge mode
It has Bypass Mode which uses the direct voltage of the battery, like a mech
There is a VPC mode which can set a power curve by watts

 

[Mykreign]

Buy a dual battery mod or change your battery after every 20 puffs if you want to stay at 100w.

or use higher ohm coils that require less wattage.

 

[Fudgey Finger]

or use higher ohm coils that require less wattage.

Ok thanks. What range would be good for that, like 0.5? I've got plenty of mods but only 2 that can handle my work environment and my Tank T2 is messing up.

 

[Mykreign]

Ok thanks. What range would be good for that, like 0.5? I've got plenty of mods but only 2 that can handle my work environment and my Tank T2 is messing up.

ok gotcha. What ohms are you running now? 0.5 would be a good place to start.

You might not get the warm cloudy vape you're looking for though.

 

[Fudgey Finger]

ok gotcha. What ohms are you running now? 0.5 would be a good place to start.

You might not get the warm cloudy vape you're looking for though.

Between 0.1-0.2
I just tried one of my series builds on it and it didn't really vape any differently, but its 0.35 so I will try something higher. I thought resistance didn't matter on a regulated mod but that's why I started this thread.

How would building higher help me though? I guess I don't understand how that would work.

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[Mykreign]

Between 0.1-0.2
I just tried one of my series builds on it and it didn't really vape any differently, but its 0.35 so I will try something higher. I thought resistance didn't matter on a regulated mod but that's why I started this thread.

How would building higher help me though? I guess I don't understand how that would work.

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The lower the coil resistance (ohms), the more watts you're going to need to heat it up.

With a higher resistance coil, it'll take less watts to heat up.

the more watts you run, the less battery life you will get. (sort of)

 

[Mykreign]

Lets say this is your build, .15ohm @ 100watts = 3.8V and 25amps

To get the same volts with a higher ohm coil, 3.8V @ .5ohm = 28watts and 7amps

The more amps you use, the less battery life you will have.

Basically, higher ohm coils take less power to heat up lol.

 

[JuicyLucy]

IME - you will get the most out of a regulated mod by vaping it at half the stated max wattage

 

[kevin littell]

Build a 6 wrap 26 ga Kanthal coil out of round wire about 3mm ID for about .8 ohms....Wraps should be SPACED evenly. 3.5 or 4mm work too.


Wick the crap outta it.


Set the mod on 40 watts and hit it. go up to 100 to get the heat you want.


Smile or try again.

 

[HondaDavidson]

Steam-engine.org is your friend..... Use it to play with builds using alternate materials wraps and power.

 

[HondaDavidson]

But your not going to get more puffs from 100watts without going to MORE batteries. Really need more batteries to get More than 100watts anyway.

 

[Fudgey Finger]

Lets say this is your build, .15ohm @ 100watts = 3.8V and 25amps

To get the same volts with a higher ohm coil, 3.8V @ .5ohm = 28watts and 7amps

The more amps you use, the less battery life you will have.

Basically, higher ohm coils take less power to heat up lol.

Ok then how does that make it harder to get clouds and heat?

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[Mykreign]

Ok then how does that make it harder to get clouds and heat?

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Because, typically a higher ohm coil has less surface area so not as much juice is being evaporated.

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[Fudgey Finger]

IME - you will get the most out of a regulated mod by vaping it at half the stated max wattage

Yeah I hear this but there isn't much of a selection of waterproof mods so I'm trying to work with what I've got. I'm not trying to get more use out of it anyway I'm trying to get a vape that isn't completely unsatisfying. It may not be possible but I'm still looking for advice to go in the right direction.

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[Fudgey Finger]

Because, typically a higher ohm coil has less surface area so not as much juice is being evaporated.

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Ok that's all making sense now. Thanks for the help.

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[Mykreign]

Ok that's all making sense now. Thanks for the help.

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No problem! If you understand all that, then you're on your way to knowing how to work a mech mod.

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[Fudgey Finger]

No problem! If you understand all that, then you're on your way to knowing how to work a mech mod.

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I've already got a few mech mods. I understand ohms law and battery safety I just don't completely understand how regulated mods work.

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[Fudgey Finger]

Because, typically a higher ohm coil has less surface area so not as much juice is being evaporated.

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Wait, I'm not getting something. If you add wraps you're adding surface area and also raising the resistance.

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[Mykreign]

Wait, I'm not getting something. If you add wraps you're adding surface area and also raising the resistance.

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True. There are a lot of things that go into a coil to get it to perform optimally.

If you add wraps to bring the resistance up, that's more wire mass that needs to be heated. Which means a slower ramp up and more power being needed to heat up the coils. So now you're back to using up battery.

The goal is to find a balance between power and surface area.

Instead of adding wraps, you'll want to use a higher gage wire. That's where you lose surface area but save on battery.



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[Mykreign]

I hope someone comes out with a durable dual battery mod for you to use. I'm sire it's just a matter of time. I know it sucks not having a satisfactory vape.

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[HondaDavidson]

Ok that's all making sense now. Thanks for the help.

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Of course that assumes you got the higher ohm via using g smaller wire....

You get more surface area and higher ohm just by adding wraps also..

Steam-engine.org is your friend.

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[Brad Mitchell]

Of course that assumes you got the higher ohm via using g smaller wire....

You get more surface area and higher ohm just by adding wraps also..

Steam-engine.org is your friend.

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If you add a wrap on a particular coil it will raise the resistance but it will cool the vape so you would have to raise the watts.

If you use thinner wire which raises the resistance it will also need less watts to heat up.

Think like back in the day when people had 36gauge 5 wrap in their replacement coils at 1.8 ohm. If you put more than 20 watts you would burn the juice but if you take 26gauge and make a 1.8 ohm coil now you are 12 wraps on a 3mm running 60+watts

 

[Brad Mitchell]

You could try 28gauge dual coils or parallel 28 dual coils. Both should be fairly good i used 28 alot when i started plus its great for fused claptons once you get there.

 

[gadget!]

I have 3 26650 mods and the first battery I bought was an eFest.
I had an Aegis as well.
All four mods performed exactly as you've described with the eFest battery.
I bought 2 Hohmtech 26650 batteries and the difference was night and day.

Also, I have an iJoy Capo Squonker that came with an iJoy battery and it performs better with a good 18650 than it does with the iJoy battery.

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[Fudgey Finger]

You could try 28gauge dual coils or parallel 28 dual coils. Both should be fairly good i used 28 alot when i started plus its great for fused claptons once you get there.

That's what I ended up doing. 28g n80 7 wraps dual 2.5mm spaced

It's performing better now but it doesn't have much taste. It is tolerable with a stinger flavored juice. At least I will get my box fix.

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[Fudgey Finger]

I have 3 26650 mods and the first battery I bought was an eFest.
I had an Aegis as well.
All four mods performed exactly as you've described with the eFest battery.
I bought 2 Hohmtech 26650 batteries and the difference was night and day.

Also, I have an iJoy Capo Squonker that came with an iJoy battery and it performs better with a good 18650 than it does with the iJoy battery.

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I bought 4 of the hohm grown cells when I picked up the mod and honestly they suck. The ijoy 26650 should not perform any worse than an 18650. Look at Mooch's pulse graph comparing the vtc5a to the ijoy 26650, the ijoy has LESS voltage sag than a vtc5a. That's why I only use ijoy 26650s with my 26650 mods.

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