Invisible Rasta
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Hello guys, I was wondering if there is any guide around on how to build an AC powered mod
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Building AC powered mod for home usage
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Wondering if the mods will end up moving this thread here before discussion starts:
http://vapingunderground.com/forums/what-not-to-do.732/
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Sure, if you use an dc converter to connect to a charger to charge a battery and then vape off the battery after its charged. Presto! Voila! AC vaping in two easy steps.
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Ignoring the obvious safety issues with using house current
A coil doesn't require DC current, it would work just fine with AC current. Light bulbs are a perfect example of this, AC current heats up the filament (which *is* a coil of metal) until it glows white hot. It's exactly the same process that we use with kanthal, especially when dry burning.
So, a mech would work with AC without any change in performance (aside from voltage differences)
A coil doesn't require DC current, it would work just fine with AC current. Light bulbs are a perfect example of this, AC current heats up the filament (which *is* a coil of metal) until it glows white hot. It's exactly the same process that we use with kanthal, especially when dry burning.
So, a mech would work with AC without any change in performance (aside from voltage differences)
Sorry even if I was fluent in high amp and voltage I would still advise against it.
Bad enough the battery risks that are at a min. If shit does go fucky at least there is a low chance it will kill you outright...
Home current... screw dancing with Darwin you are spitting on your hand doing self lubing just awaiting it.
Houses generally use 100-200 amp input @ 120 volts.
This 100-200amp load is not how much you can use, it is just the maximum the house as a whole can use.
Circuit breakers limit each individual line to 10-20 amps (more for major appliances), depending on what room the power is going to.
Anything under 6 ohms would pop a 20 amp circuit breaker. But you'd run into other problems first.
What about the wiring to plug in this thing?
Most power cords can't handle currents over 10 amps. You'd need to use a low gauge wire else risk a fire.
There is also the rating of the outlet itself and the building wiring to take into consideration. Outlets and wiring is based on the expected load on that line. ie, outlets and the wiring for a kitchen will be able to handle a heavier load then the outlets and wiring for the living room, since the kitchen will have appliances to run such as your fridge, microwave, etc.
Maybe your kitchen has a 20 amp breaker. This *does not* mean you can draw 20 amps from one outlet, that 20amp load is designed to be distributed between all the outlets in the kitchen, so each outlet might only be rated for 10 amps (or less). Overloading the outlet could result in a fire.
A way around it? Well, I guess you could replace the outlet and circuit breaker with a higher amperage breaker.
But then you'd risk a fire in the walls of your house due to over heating the 12 gauge wire that is standard in houses.
Of course, trying to shove 2400 watts through a 6ohm kanthal coil might not even work in the first place.
Only way to really get way with a mod that plugs in would be to just use a commercial fog machine. But these might be DC as well, due to an internal transformer.
This 100-200amp load is not how much you can use, it is just the maximum the house as a whole can use.
Circuit breakers limit each individual line to 10-20 amps (more for major appliances), depending on what room the power is going to.
Anything under 6 ohms would pop a 20 amp circuit breaker. But you'd run into other problems first.
What about the wiring to plug in this thing?
Most power cords can't handle currents over 10 amps. You'd need to use a low gauge wire else risk a fire.
There is also the rating of the outlet itself and the building wiring to take into consideration. Outlets and wiring is based on the expected load on that line. ie, outlets and the wiring for a kitchen will be able to handle a heavier load then the outlets and wiring for the living room, since the kitchen will have appliances to run such as your fridge, microwave, etc.
Maybe your kitchen has a 20 amp breaker. This *does not* mean you can draw 20 amps from one outlet, that 20amp load is designed to be distributed between all the outlets in the kitchen, so each outlet might only be rated for 10 amps (or less). Overloading the outlet could result in a fire.
A way around it? Well, I guess you could replace the outlet and circuit breaker with a higher amperage breaker.
But then you'd risk a fire in the walls of your house due to over heating the 12 gauge wire that is standard in houses.
Of course, trying to shove 2400 watts through a 6ohm kanthal coil might not even work in the first place.
Only way to really get way with a mod that plugs in would be to just use a commercial fog machine. But these might be DC as well, due to an internal transformer.
Invisible Rasta
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Well im not looking imto building a crazy 50000w machine... Just wanted to figure out a way so I dnt have to keep buying new batteries every month for my dna200...
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AC powered mods? Then we would read in the news about death by vooping?
Here's your AC mod.
A: RDA on 510 with DC
B: AC power (from wall) to bonus outlet, because why not
C: 14/2 Romex from outlet to switch and DC converter
D: Converted juice container for future squonk capability
E: Shelf
F: Extra nailer (1 of 2)
G: Second shelf will be at this level
H: 7/16" OSB bottom (and future sides), with urethane finish
I: Flexible 14/2 to wall outlet, grounded, fed through back (main switch on other side)
Not quite done, but you get the idea.
A: RDA on 510 with DC
B: AC power (from wall) to bonus outlet, because why not
C: 14/2 Romex from outlet to switch and DC converter
D: Converted juice container for future squonk capability
E: Shelf
F: Extra nailer (1 of 2)
G: Second shelf will be at this level
H: 7/16" OSB bottom (and future sides), with urethane finish
I: Flexible 14/2 to wall outlet, grounded, fed through back (main switch on other side)
Not quite done, but you get the idea.
ure its very possible AC to DC converter wtih wattage adjustment a high end power soak another word that some will throw out.. I just am having a hard time validating dragging an extension cord around as I walk around the house... I would think that if one was going to stay stationary it might be better to build like a Vaping chair kinda like the th eBoy in the plastic bubble or maybe just a room buy a fog machine and run it when you enter a room... 
Or beter just vape up your whol house with a steam syste of some odd sort,
After that I think the best answer is just buy a mod with a Pass through option s you cna leave it plugged in all the time
Or beter just vape up your whol house with a steam syste of some odd sort,After that I think the best answer is just buy a mod with a Pass through option s you cna leave it plugged in all the time
You shouldn't be needing to buy batteries every month for the DNA device. Something's fucked up if you are.
Main problem is that circuit board and chips all run off dc. So, you'd need to convert it to dc somehow.
(my above posts were assuming you wanted pure ac current for the coil)
Perhaps a little powerpack plug like various gadgets use.
Just be a matter of finding one that can handle the current you want to use, then wiring it to the battery terminals of your mod.
(my above posts were assuming you wanted pure ac current for the coil)
Perhaps a little powerpack plug like various gadgets use.
Just be a matter of finding one that can handle the current you want to use, then wiring it to the battery terminals of your mod.
Just use a lamp dimmer. They will handle 600 watts!
Warning: Doing this may result in death.
Your drip tip will be hooked to one side of the wall outlet!!!
Warning: Doing this may result in death.
Your drip tip will be hooked to one side of the wall outlet!!!
Or, build your own.
Plug the variac into the wall, plug the battery charger into the variac. 510 connector attaches to the positive & negative leads of the charger.
https://www.circuitspecialists.com/variac-tdgc2-2.html?otaid=gpl&gclid=CL3st4mDnssCFVc1aQodRWAAfw
http://www.harborfreight.com/10250-amp-12v-manual-charger-with-engine-start-60653.html
You can adjust the variac up and down, which will adjust the output on the charger, and go from 0 to 12 volts, up to 50 amps. Charger even provides a built-in ammeter.
This is your brain on drugs.
Plug the variac into the wall, plug the battery charger into the variac. 510 connector attaches to the positive & negative leads of the charger.
https://www.circuitspecialists.com/variac-tdgc2-2.html?otaid=gpl&gclid=CL3st4mDnssCFVc1aQodRWAAfw
http://www.harborfreight.com/10250-amp-12v-manual-charger-with-engine-start-60653.html
You can adjust the variac up and down, which will adjust the output on the charger, and go from 0 to 12 volts, up to 50 amps. Charger even provides a built-in ammeter.
This is your brain on drugs.