Can't get my liquid sweet enough! PLEASE HELP!

[Blow White]

I can't for love nor money replicate the sweetness from an old favourite 'Premium', (Triphammer UK) It's got a silky rich syrupy sweetness on the exhale with tons of mouth feel, you can feel it on the front & sides of your tongue, it's not 'in the recipe' because it's across the board from single flavour fruits to simple bakeries & deserts, so I've deduced it must be an ingredient and/or additive.
I've tried pure Sucralose, mixed 3g per 5ml, it doesn't dissolve, makes your liquid cloudy & just tastes like artificial sweetener, horrible stuff. I've used EM, TPA Sweetener & Cotton Candy at 1-10% + Steeped, but they just don't have the thick rich syrupy sweet mouth feel that I'm looking for

Any ideas on how to create this kind of epic sweetness?

 

[AndriaD]

I find the TFA's Sweetener is by far the best; it's liquid, so you don't have to worry about dissolving; it's sucralose, but they do something to it so it doesn't have that icky artificial whang. It's VERY sweet! I have a massive sweet tooth, but if I use more than 3.2%, it's so sweet I can't vape it -- and even 3.2% is kinda pushing it; 3% is about the max I can stand most days.

Andria

 

[Heabob]

Stevia or Agave
Could also be Butter flavoring like CAP Butter.
Marshmallow
Sweet Cream
Could try adding a small amount of everything too.

 

[RonJS]

I can't for love nor money replicate the sweetness from an old favourite 'Premium', (Triphammer UK) It's got a silky rich syrupy sweetness on the exhale with tons of mouth feel, you can feel it on the front & sides of your tongue, it's not 'in the recipe' because it's across the board from single flavour fruits to simple bakeries & deserts, so I've deduced it must be an ingredient and/or additive.
I've tried pure Sucralose, mixed 3g per 5ml, it doesn't dissolve, makes your liquid cloudy & just tastes like artificial sweetener, horrible stuff. I've used EM, TPA Sweetener & Cotton Candy at 1-10% + Steeped, but they just don't have the thick rich syrupy sweet mouth feel that I'm looking for

Any ideas on how to create this kind of epic sweetness?

Have you tried MTS Vape Wizard?
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Ron
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[Heabob]

Have you tried MTS Vape Wizard?

Good idea, I think theyre's another one people use, it's just called "Smooth" but haven't tried either one yet.

 

[RonJS]

Good idea, I think theyre's another one people use, it's just called "Smooth" but haven't tried either one yet.

Somebody over at reddit said..
"Smooth is TFA's version of MTS, they took it apart and rebuilt it with what they produce."
...so I Guess it must be true!

I tried Smooth a coupla years ago. Didn't do much for me. I remember only a very little bit should be used in a mix. (around 1-3 drops per 30ml?)

Ron
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