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I would like recommendations and reviews, please, on a good device to vaporize essential oils. ACTUAL essential oils (steam distilled aromatic substances from plants) LOL.

Part of my business is to help people take control of their health with essential oils, and I'd like a new mode for them to use oils.

Thanks a bunch for the assistance. I'm new to vaping.
 

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I would like recommendations and reviews, please, on a good device to vaporize essential oils. ACTUAL essential oils (steam distilled aromatic substances from plants) LOL.

Part of my business is to help people take control of their health with essential oils, and I'd like a new mode for them to use oils.

Thanks a bunch for the assistance. I'm new to vaping.

Essential Oils/Steam distilled substances from Plants? This is a forum for "Vapers" E-Cig Vapers! Are you talking about Oils for Illegal substances? or from actual plants like sage etc? I'm curious & mean no harm! BTW Welcome to VU! :cool:
 
Essential Oils/Steam distilled substances from Plants? This is a forum for "Vapers" E-Cig Vapers! Are you talking about Oils for Illegal substances? or from actual plants like sage etc? I'm curious & mean no harm! BTW Welcome to VU! :cool:

I'm not interested in smoking anything illegal. I want to put essential oils (e.g., Eucalyptus, or Cedarwood) into an electronic "smoking" device and get the therapeutic effects. Just looking for a good device that I can vape oils for me.
 

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YOu can I have used clove cinnamon ummmmm orange essential oils and others in my E-liquid.. You need to go do some research
 

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OK my 2 cents on this.. ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS?
Many of the volatile compounds are still present in distilled essences that cause lung irritation and or allergic reactions. I do not see how a direct inhalation bypassing the body defense of the cilia in the nose directly into the lungs would have any health benefit..

One of the ways taking control of one's health is not jumping on a quackery band wagon with potential serious damage along the way. There is a major difference in using oils, and inhaling them.
I will suggest researching http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_pneumonia
 
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OK my 2 cents on this.. ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS?
Many of the volatile compounds are still present in distilled essences that cause lung irritation and or allergic reactions. I do not see how a direct inhalation bypassing the body defense of the cilia in the nose directly into the lungs would have any health benefit..

One of the ways taking control of one's health is not jumping on a quackery band wagon with potential serious damage along the way. There is a major difference in using oils, and inhaling them.
I will suggest researching http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_pneumonia
I should have been more me make a sense I have done it ... i do not anymore accept a big of clove from time to time>>> just to numb my tongue haha
 

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I've researched this quite a bit because of being interested using things like lavender, chamomile etc for helping me sleep.

Google "aromatherapy vaporizer" and you will get plenty of info.

Everything I have read has said not to use oils in a PV, however v2 is working on a cartridge for their new Series 3 pens for essential oils, and they already have one for "loose leaf" matter like dried herbs. It uses a convection oven effect and the matter never comes into contact with a coil so the bad stuff is not supposed to be released, just the good stuff vaporized the way it would using a desktop vaporizer.

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This isn't exactly the correct website to seek specialised informed knowledge on what this guy is asking. As far as vaping substances is concerned this is a forum that essentially specialises in mixing pg and vg with "safely made" flavourings from reputable vendors. If a vendor is discovered to be attempting to sell unsafe substances the forum will either ban them, try to educate them or name and shame them.

What the op needs to do with his question if he's looking for answers is find a head forum as many of those guys also practice, test and are skilled in developing safe legal substances for inhalation.

Just as an additional reminder for those who encounter this thread in the future as it cannot be over stressed - safe for oral use (entering our digestive system) does not mean safe for our respiratory system when vapourised. Chemicals have reactions and change form at high temperatures and can become poisonous.

Some editing done by lordmage to hopefully correct misunderstanding.
 
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This isn't exactly the correct website to seek specialised informed knowledge on what this guy is asking. As far as vaping substances is concerned it's a forum that essentially specialises in mixing pg and vg with safely made flavourings from reputable vendors. If a vendor is discovered to be attempting to sell unsafe substances the forum will either ban them, try to educate them or name and shame them.

What the op needs to do with his question if he's looking for answers is find a head forum as many of those guys also practice, test and are skilled in developing safe legal substances for inhalation.

Just as an additional reminder for those who encounter this thread in the future as it cannot be over stressed - safe for oral use (entering our digestive system) does not mean safe for our respiratory system when vapourised. Chemicals have reactions and change form at high temperatures and can become poisonous.
If this is the case then we cannot vape anything most flavorings have only been approved for oral consumption and have not been tested for inhalation
essential oils are natural substances of flavors that are typically 100% an essential oil.. This is completely incorrect.. if you look on a the back of a flavor for E-juice it will state Natural and other substances sometimes oils... So this is not correct and bullshit.... I will not abide by this rule as it mean all flavors cannot be talked about.. NO ONE HAS TESTED THESE FLAVORS FOR INHALATION.
I think you need to understand your power @Hobby Kid and not start imposing rules that you obviously no nothing albout
and being a Moderator does not mean you make rules!!!
 

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If this is the case then we cannot vape anything most flavorings have only been approved for oral consumption and have not been tested for inhalation
essential oils are natural substances of flavors that are typically 100% an essential oil.. This is completely incorrect.. if you look on a the back of a flavor for E-juice it will state Natural and other substances sometimes oils... So this is not correct and bullshit.... I will not abide by this rule as it mean all flavors cannot be talked about.. NO ONE HAS TESTED THESE FLAVORS FOR INHALATION.
I think you need to understand your power @Hobby Kid and not start imposing rules that you obviously no nothing albout
and being a Moderator does not mean you make rules!!!
Well that escalated quickly. What happened to the nice polite guy I chat to in pms?
 

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Ah, found the response from freshiuk.co.uk for my enquiry last year. I hope this will help people make informed choices when they venture into mixing their own liquids. Stay safe ;)

Hello

I would be careful in using food flavourings from supermarkets as the ingredients used are not specified in great detail, usually they list propylene glycol, alcohol, natural flavourings and colouring as the ingredients.

This can be misleading as the natural flavourings can be any number of 3000+ different chemicals. These may be safe digested ie: Cakes, Sweets, Drinks etc, but some chemicals can be extremely harmful when inhaled with ecigarette devices. This could lead to poisoning and in extreme circumstances even death.

Our flavourings are industrial strength, which are stronger concentrate than the items you can get from your local supermarket. We source them from reputable manufacturers and make sure they are safe for Digestion as well as Inhalation. As our prime business is ecigarettes it would be foolish for us to stock anything else.

We recommend a dilution of 1:30 and add to taste for ecigarettes.

Hope this answers your questions
//freshiuk
 

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Essential oils aren't even safe for skin contact without a carrier oil please do not try vaping essential oils !

http://www.naha.org/explore-aromatherapy/safety
I can just imagine the FDA and EU using these kind of practices amongst vapers as yet another excuse to use in their case to regulate. If the sales of safe juice makers are currently being targeted god knows where this could lead.
 

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Considering the fact that you can walk into any smoke shop in the country and buy a bong, do we really think any sort of regs on devices is likely?
 

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Considering the fact that you can walk into any smoke shop in the country and buy a bong, do we really think any sort of regs on devices is likely?
It's unfair I know. Appears like drug related paraphernalia doesn't pose a threat to big tobacco and the pharmaceutical industry whilst they decide who to make their cases against to the regulators
 

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Thought I'd just repost this WARNING from http://www.freshiuk.co.uk

Hello

I would be careful in using food flavourings from supermarkets as the ingredients used are not specified in great detail, usually they list propylene glycol, alcohol, natural flavourings and colouring as the ingredients.

This can be misleading as the natural flavourings can be any number of 3000+ different chemicals. These may be safe digested ie: Cakes, Sweets, Drinks etc, but some chemicals can be extremely harmful when inhaled with ecigarette devices. This could lead to poisoning and in extreme circumstances even death.

Our flavourings are industrial strength, which are stronger concentrate than the items you can get from your local supermarket. We source them from reputable manufacturers and make sure they are safe for Digestion as well as Inhalation. As our prime business is ecigarettes it would be foolish for us to stock anything else.

We recommend a dilution of 1:30 and add to taste for ecigarettes.

Hope this answers your questions

freshiuk
 

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Ah, found the response from freshiuk.co.uk for my enquiry last year. I hope this will help people make informed choices when they venture into mixing their own liquids. Stay safe ;)
But Hobby this is the same problem dude we have with E-juice flavoring many times they have alcohol and other things that we have no idea what they are... Using essential oils is dangerous as @cherrycakes said it has to be broken down either with Ethyl alcohol or sometimes propolyene Glycol.. when a flavor says Natural flavors we have no idea what that entails
 

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But Hobby this is the same problem dude we have with E-juice flavoring many times they have alcohol and other things that we have no idea what they are... Using essential oils is dangerous as @cherrycakes said it has to be broken down either with Ethyl alcohol or sometimes propolyene Glycol.. when a flavor says Natural flavors we have no idea what that entails
Natural flavors listing skeezs the shit out of me... something to the effect of having beaver anal gland juice in it.
 

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Thought I'd just repost this WARNING from http://www.freshiuk.co.uk
We source them from reputable manufacturers and make sure they are safe for Digestion as well as Inhalation.
It would be interesting to hear more about how they determined that the flavorings they sell are safe for inhalation. Isn't that one of the major arguments for regulation?
 

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It would be interesting to hear more about how they determined that the flavorings they sell are safe for inhalation. Isn't that one of the major arguments for regulation?
If it's this company themself then you'd best shoot them an email. Else if it's about liquids generally, CASAA has a lot of links to case studies which vapers can include in their letters to their representatives or help decide for themselves whether vaping is safe for them
 

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A. Simple you are wrong
B. Moderators cannot make new rules

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@Mrscaryz i read @Hobby Kid response to this thread and i would like to point out something he does not state a rule or come up with one in it. it could simply come down to your interpreta of it.
I will quote it in the event i am using the wrong one in which case feel free to correct me.

"This isn't exactly the correct website to seek specialised informed knowledge on what this guy is asking. As far as vaping substances is concerned it's a forum that essentially specialises in mixing pg and vg with safely made flavourings from reputable vendors. If a vendor is discovered to be attempting to sell unsafe substances the forum will either ban them, try to educate them or name and shame them.

What the op needs to do with his question if he's looking for answers is find a head forum as many of those guys also practice, test and are skilled in developing safe legal substances for inhalation.

Just as an additional reminder for those who encounter this thread in the future as it cannot be over stressed - safe for oral use (entering our digestive system) does not mean safe for our respiratory system when vapourised. Chemicals have reactions and change form at high temperatures and can become poisonous."

The first three lines pertain to what UV is not a rule, the following two is suggesting the most effective way to get his answer and the final three are a simple suggestion aka standard warning.

Moderators do not come up with rules but do protect the public from unsafe practices and can if consensus is reached enact ways to do so.
 

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@Mrscaryz i read @Hobby Kid response to this thread and i would like to point out something he does not state a rule or come up with one in it. it could simply come down to your interpreta of it.
I will quote it in the event i am using the wrong one in which case feel free to correct me.

"This isn't exactly the correct website to seek specialised informed knowledge on what this guy is asking. As far as vaping substances is concerned it's a forum that essentially specialises in mixing pg and vg with safely made flavourings from reputable vendors. If a vendor is discovered to be attempting to sell unsafe substances the forum will either ban them, try to educate them or name and shame them.

What the op needs to do with his question if he's looking for answers is find a head forum as many of those guys also practice, test and are skilled in developing safe legal substances for inhalation.

Just as an additional reminder for those who encounter this thread in the future as it cannot be over stressed - safe for oral use (entering our digestive system) does not mean safe for our respiratory system when vapourised. Chemicals have reactions and change form at high temperatures and can become poisonous."

The first three lines pertain to what UV is not a rule, the following two is suggesting the most effective way to get his answer and the final three are a simple suggestion aka standard warning.

Moderators do not come up with rules but do protect the public from unsafe practices and can if consensus is reached enact ways to do so.
I disagree Hobby is making an assumption that Eliquid flavors are safe and on this quote "As far as vaping substances is concerned it's a forum that essentially specialises in mixing pg and vg with safely made flavourings from reputable vendors." No Flavors have really best tested for safetly also many oils are used in the production of Eliquids I do understand that the OP needed to reword what he said or he is just confused.. But an Mod does not mean he is protecting the public either how would a Mod do that? so you are wrong as well.... I have no problem with this Its a logical error and I am not going to get into it I have more important things to do... I see a larger and larger problem on this forum we have a couple good mods and others that have idea what the hell they are doing... Being assigned the duty of a mod does not mean you know what the fuck it takes alot of time and experience... This is starting to sound more like ECF than VU... .. I just do not care its becoming a joke
 

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So what if some dumbass decides to vape patchouli, dies, and his family decides to sue vapor Joe? This is not a herb vaporizer forum. It is not an oil vaporizer forum. He was absolutely allowed to point op in another direction as I have done the same when people are talking about that type of vaporizer. There are aromatherapy forums, there are THC oil forums. This is NOT the correct place for that kind of question.
 

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@cherrycakes that is not the problem it is what was said in his response to the OP that is incorrect that I already pointed out..
I am not discussing this anymore the OP was wrong to bring that up on a vaping forum and Hobbys response was partially wrong I never replied with ill contempt... Many essential oils are used in Flavor production natural which can mean according to the FDA thousands of chemicals all we know with vaping for sure is we are not getting those chemicals and the tar.. we have no idea of the safety of vaping yet....what flavors do what as they will probably never be tested my multiple partys...
 

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And if he was a "bad" mod like ECF this thread would have been moved, closed, and you would have been banned for questioning authority. None of those things happened.
Now let me tell you something I never said he was a bad Mod and no I will not get banned for questioning authority .. please now you must have been around ECF to long this is not VaperNatzi I can say what I will if you like it or not.. Now I am being nice because I think you mean well stop jumping in on things just appear to know nothing about..
 

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@Mrscaryz safely made does not mean safe to vape to me anyway.
from your inference i take it you think "safely made" equates to safe to vape. in some case protecting the public involves removal of bad ideas or threads and keeping a level head and @Hobby Kid is not saying they are safe in fact his follow thru suggest that if some vendors are found to do bad practices we will make it known. i will cite smokie sharing the diacetyl test result with us as an example.

you further state there is a logic error when your reply was not complete free from emotion and had some wrong words in it. "best" "an" "safetly"

in terms of experience on being a mod. i think my time at ECF back in the day, as well as my time in a now closed forum. give me insight into what it really takes and from your statement you either have an idea or your own idea on what it take.
you say UV has a large problem yet you do not share it your further say UV is liken to ECF yet you have not been warned by me or anyone that i am aware of for insulting staff which ECF does now. you are free to have your option and free to share what you like. i would just ask you not to put the cart before the horse
 

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These people are more knowledgeable with oil/herbal vaporizers, we only have experience with the nicotine ones.
No you are wrong we have no idea what flavors actually do when enhaled at all! you are digging yourself a grave making yourself look dumber and dumber

@Mrscaryz safely made does not mean safe to vape to me anyway.
from your inference i take it you think "safely made" equates to safe to vape. in some case protecting the public involves removal of bad ideas or threads and keeping a level head and @Hobby Kid is not saying they are safe in fact his follow thru suggest that if some vendors are found to do bad practices we will make it known. i will cite smokie sharing the diacetyl test result with us as an example.

you further state there is a logic error when your reply was not complete free from emotion and had some wrong words in it. "best" "an" "safetly"

in terms of experience on being a mod. i think my time at ECF back in the day, as well as my time in a now closed forum. give me insight into what it really takes and from your statement you either have an idea or your own idea on what it take.
you say UV has a large problem yet you do not share it your further say UV is liken to ECF yet you have not been warned by me or anyone that i am aware of for insulting staff which ECF does now. you are free to have your option and free to share what you like. i would just ask you not to put the cart before the horse
I agree and I think that Mods should be careful on how they respond... It was partially right any time I see a logical fallacy I will bring it up. I understand your point but I do think you need to shake a bit of of the excess ECF off...
 
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far enough how ever i think you may need to do the same in some respects.
i did edit it to hopefully clean it up and correct the issue you bring up.

on the fallacies that you see.
you are always free to point them out in fact i support this. so long as the issue is clearly spelled out
which once i understood your stance i was able to at least correct.
 
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far enough how ever i think you may need to do the same in some respects.
i did edit it to hopefully clean it up and correct the issue you bring up.
Great thank you you seem like a well versed Mod .."I like you" :) issue over I have a movie to watch.. Thanks again
 

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Ok I am done here but *IF* you tried vaping essential oils with an e-cigarette I am more than positive it would ruin your gear. What it would do to your brain or lungs is anyone's guess but I'm stating my opinion that it is a dumb, hazardous thing to do.

Have a good day.
 

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@cherrycakes many of us DIY makers use essential oils mixed with other ingredients of course Straight up I imagine it would be pretty nasty and probably start a fire... burn yourself or "Burning down the house" -- Talking heads
I will send Hobby a Conversation I so understand your point @cherrycakes what happens on forums is people forget myself included how something started which was the OP.. we are all human we make mistakes... :)
 

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@Mrscaryz I really don't have time for anymore conversations with you over your issues. Reading through your replies in this thread I think you have shown yourself to be childish and petty feeling you had to save face when in fact nobody had even pointed you out. Put it away. You assume that because I was made moderator on this forum a few days ago that I must be new to these things. Get off your high horse. You're not as important as you think you are!
 
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And if he was a "bad" mod like ECF this thread would have been moved, closed, and you would have been banned for questioning authority. None of those things happened.
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@Mrscaryz I really don't have time for anymore conversations with you over your issues. Reading through your replies in this thread I think you have shown yourself to be childish and petty feeling you had to save face when in fact nobody had even pointed you out. Put it away. You assume that because I was made moderator on this forum a few days ago that I must be new to these things. Get off your high horse. You're not as important as you think you are!
My issues I think the most childish person on this forum is you 4 words ohh my god give me a break... You have made this place Vaping Idiot..
You are new you have no idea what you are doing and now you have a God complex.. fuck you when most of someone's posts are in a silly thread that only does one thing boost posts I think that person should think to themselves what am I doing... you have way more issues that you realize.. I was not saving face at all.. I was responding to a mod that did make sense that did edit your wrong reply...Because they saw my point so go back to 4 words... I wonder if you did that because you had to have the most posts on VU its obvious.. and scary
 
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just to be clear when you brought it up.
i re-read it and found some people may think the phrase safely made out to mean safe to vape. all i did was "safely made" and change one word for a verbiage fix. yes you brought up the issue but it could have been brought up without emotion.

with that said i am going to close this thread the OP is free to create a new update thread if needed or pm a mod to unlock it if needed. no sense in beating a dead horse
 
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