How to do a proper Ni200 build for temperature control with the DNA40

[Giraut]

After reading for the nth time that building a nickel coil is difficult, that Ni200 is too soft, that temperature control is finicky, that it requires a huge learning curve, etc etc, I decided to make a video to show how it's done right.

Here it is: I haven't edited anything. This is the entire building process in real-time, so there's no cheating or hiding tricky bits:

As you can see, there really isn't much to working with nickel, and temperature control doesn't really require anything special to work well.

 

[JXN]

Video link doesn't show for me.

 

[Giraut]

How about with the direct link?

 

[JXN]

I just see a black box on both. It may be No Script on my end

 

[Giraut]

Ah yes, you need to enable dailymotion.com, dmcdn.net and weirdly enough, ajax.googleapi.com also.

 

[JXN]

Thanks, that's it. I will watch later.

 

[Cloudboss]

How does the dna chip read temperature? does it have some kind of "pulse with modulation" ??

 

[Panther1911]

How does the dna chip read temperature? does it have some kind of "pulse with modulation" ??

from what i understand ni200 nickle wire changes resistance with temperature, so when building a coil with ni200 it has a very accurate ohm reader that senses the change in resistance

 

[Rommel]

How does the dna chip read temperature? does it have some kind of "pulse with modulation" ??

As stated above, nickel wire has different resistance at different temperatures, and the resistance vs heat changes are almost identical every time with every wire and every coil. The DNA40 then reads the ohms constantly when firing and when you reach your set temperature, it dials back.

So in fact it's not limiting temperature, it's limiting ohms.

 

[Cloudboss]

thats very interesting, might have to order a dna chip and build a box mod

 

[driver379]

After reading for the nth time that building a nickel coil is difficult, that Ni200 is too soft, that temperature control is finicky, that it requires a huge learning curve, etc etc, I decided to make a video to show how it's done right.

Here it is: I haven't edited anything. This is the entire building process in real-time, so there's no cheating or hiding tricky bits:

As you can see, there really isn't much to working with nickel, and temperature control doesn't really require anything special to work well.

Great video. I'm gonna try twisting the leads like that.

 

[Woodsman]

After reading for the nth time that building a nickel coil is difficult, that Ni200 is too soft, that temperature control is finicky, that it requires a huge learning curve, etc etc, I decided to make a video to show how it's done right.

Here it is: I haven't edited anything. This is the entire building process in real-time, so there's no cheating or hiding tricky bits:

As you can see, there really isn't much to working with nickel, and temperature control doesn't really require anything special to work well.

I'm not experienced with Ni200 yet, nor with RBAs in general. But one thing I am curious about, and will eventually answer for myself if you don't, is that Kanthal coils glow orange, yet I do not see Ni200 coils glow orange. Have you noticed this?

 

[Giraut]

They'll glow if you disable temperature control and remove the wick I do that every now and then when I dry-burn my nickel coils - exactly like with kanthal.

 

[Hoekakes]

I'm not experienced with Ni200 yet, nor with RBAs in general. But one thing I am curious about, and will eventually answer for myself if you don't, is that Kanthal coils glow orange, yet I do not see Ni200 coils glow orange. Have you noticed this?

they just dont get hot enough to glow under temp control

 

[Woodsman]

they just dont get hot enough to glow under temp control

Thanks. That answers that!

 

[Woodsman]

Thanks. That answers that!

Which

They'll glow if you disable temperature control and remove the wick I do that every now and then when I dry-burn my nickel coils - exactly like with kanthal.

Thanks. That is very useful information.

 

[Ryedan]

After reading for the nth time that building a nickel coil is difficult, that Ni200 is too soft, that temperature control is finicky, that it requires a huge learning curve, etc etc, I decided to make a video to show how it's done right.

Here it is: I haven't edited anything. This is the entire building process in real-time, so there's no cheating or hiding tricky bits.

As you can see, there really isn't much to working with nickel, and temperature control doesn't really require anything special to work well.

Very nice work Giraut. Thanks for posting the video

 

[Analias]

Hey @Giraut, nifty video! I like your coil building gig and your twisting gig. How'd you make them?