I have a suspicion about my mod reading ohms wrong

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  1. Youngvapor

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    How to fix most common problems with the Wismec Reuleaux 300 & TFV12 Atomizer RBA Dual Velocity Deck

    If newcomers to this thread is confused. This is the thread where i had the problem. Here i have made a guide that you can follow in order to fix the problems you have with the Tfv12 RBA. I had many different problems with my setup and it took me alot of time to find out of these issues. These are steps you should follow even if you dont have the related issue. Make sure you start from the beginning and work your way down.
    PROBLEMS I HAD AS I VAPED: Dry hits, burnt taste, high noise when firing. Quick response when firing. Also leaking. Atomizer shortage, battery disconnections and coil heating only from the holes. Unstable Ohm readings

    Problems and how to solve:

    1: Battery pins has been dirty
    Symptoms: Unstable Power, noisy firing, quick fire and battery disconnections. Also possible burnt hits.

    Solution: Clean the pins with cloth, clean until the dirty marks are off. You can take out the batteries and clean them to.

    2: Battery cover has been to loose

    Symptoms: Unstable Power, noisy firing, quick fire and battery disconnections. Also possible burnt hits.

    Solution: Use your thumbs and press as hard as u can against the battery cover multiple times. Your battery cover is tight when you can push it up without seeing the batteries loosing connection (from the display)


    3: Coils have been too close to the cap
    Symptoms: Atomizer shortage

    Solution: Move both coils closer to the center, make sure they are not touching anything!

    4: Wismec RX 300 is reading more than .10 ohms wrong That is a FACT!

    5: Screws for the coils are not tight enough

    Symptoms: Coils are not glowing properly, coils only glow from the holes. Can cause dry hits, burnt hits, more unaccurate ohm reading.

    Solution: Avoid the umbraco coming with the RBA kit and buy a pack of coils and use their umbraco instead. Tighten them as good as you can. Also make sure that the coils dont go out on the other side of the holes.


    6: Way to tight wicking, no proper technique

    Symptoms: Dry hits, burnt hits, leaking.

    Solution: Liquid has been pulled upwards instead of (side upwards). Move the wicks to the side and stroke them then carefully pull them down. Use tweezers. Also make sure that you have primed it, also put some juice at the top of the coils, wait a little until its saturated and repeat 2 more times. Leaking issue happens if you have used to little wick. Much of the wicking process is about positioning, patience and using the proper amount of wick. Better use more wick than less! Learn the scottish roll technique




    Took me a total of 6 days to find out these issues and making it work properly again. I hope experienced users and beginners can now save some time :)

    I hope this helps to everyone that have the same setup as i have.
    I also recommend wismec users to update the firmware.

    Problem SOLVED !!!

    Thanks to everyone in the forum that came with troubleshooting tips and all the engagement. My life is saved, and happy vaping to all!!

    Vape ON!!:xD::xD::bliss::stars2:
     
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    Depends if the seller mentioned it's a dual........... .30ohms

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    There is no mention about that. I just heard from some ppl here a long time ago i should go for 0.30ohm coils and build them parallel so they are 0.15. I dont think the seller (Fasttech) would do that :D
     
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    If it's mentioned that it's a....... . .... .30 single it should dual at .14 or .15

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    You should be able to hold the coil in your hand and knowing the material you should be able to ballpark the ohms. ... That's when you are a master grasshopper......

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    Well it says 0.30ohms on the package. That is logic to be 0.30 for each coil, if parallel it goes to 0.15.

    And wtf why is my coil reader showing off 0.34ohms
     
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    Someone has been smoking *****......

    Sent from my Z981 using Tapatalk
    You're doing your cross checking and realized that someone fucked up..... And it's going the get worst when they keep legalizing drugs everywhere.......
     
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    Just remove one of your coils in the dual setup and see if the single setup reads 0.6...
    If it still reads 0.3 then maybe one of the coils wasn't quite fastened down
    Good luck
     
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    One of the coils can also be damaged, if it's a multi core and one of the wire breaks inside, it won't read correctly....

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    I will try to remove one of the coils. But i mean what is the point, both of them seem to be connected cuz when i fire they both glow :)

    I just cannot see how it can be loose, if its glowing from both coilz
     
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    I suggested removing one of the coils to simply determine if you have accidentally been sent 0.6 coils...if you have,then mystery solved...
    If a single reads 0.3 then yes a dual should read 0.15...
    If it still reads 0.3 with dual setup and both glow bright and even then it's possibly a faulty circuit board in your mod
    Good luck again
     
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    I would have been pissed and put two new coils in....... Messing around too much with coils usually ends up with a short, then a check atomizer........

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    My best advice...Before attaching any RDA/RTA/RDTA to any mod always check it on a OHM METER.They're dirt cheap at like $10
     
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    I have ohm meter. And btw guys it now shows 0.46 with one coil!

    I will make 2 new coils and come back to you guys :)
     
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    Omg.. I dont know whats wrong. i have tried with several new coils. Coil meter shows 0.30 ohms with both coils connected. Im heavily confused

    I just saw a guy talking in the forums. He is using the same coils in a dual build and gets the same result 0.30ohms. I dont know if he is running parallel though

    I dont know, but is there any difference with staggered fused clapton coils vs normal stainless?


    UPDATE: WTF GUYS!! i went down to .20 ohms just by replacing a screw. Wow...
     
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    I dont get this.... Im trying to get the coils nicely. Well. If the screws are to loose i get heat spots inside those holes.:zombie: When i tighten them my ohms is increasing.. I dont understand guys, after i tighten it it heats better though

    :huh::huh:
    I dont understand shit, The screws are just always loose now and i just end up with those stupid heats in the holes. It takes a lot of time before the coils are heating

    I've been sitting here for over 2 hours trying to understand this shit, but not getting anywhere.I¨ve had this problem for a total of 4 days..It is going back to old habits again, I took my first cigarette yesterday. I think its stupid that i have to learn all those stupid things about vaping everyday, I've tried to learn things for the last 12 months. Of course i learn something, but I'm deeply disappointed how building some stupid coils can have such unfamiliar problems..

    I was hoping i could just do that DIY once every month and that wicking once every week and have a fully working device, but no. I have to spend hours of learning this shit to work properly.:headbang:
     
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    I'm starting to think you might want to return everything.
     
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    Well i raged a little, and now i got those screws (leads) really really tight. Looks like the coils are heating better than before now! But my result is still 0.27ohms
     
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    I've just had enough problems the last days, and no nicotine makes me more mad u know. I dont have plans of quitting, I'm just very fed up.

    I just want to be satisfied with those 200dollars i have used on vaping
     
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    First of all calm down bubba!!
    You ain't going to get anything done if you're as frustrated as a monk in a lingerie store.
    Do you have a vape store near where you are?
    If so take your problem to them and see if they can help you.
    While there maybe pick up something a bit easier to use.
    Rebuilding can be fun but there are also times it will make you feel like you are going to stroke out.
     
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    Yes, it makes me stroke out a little. Luckily there is a vape store. But the vape stores are closed after I'm done at work. So its bad..

    I just dont understand this. I mean. I tried to wick it. And it tasted great for some hits at 80 watts, then it suddenly tastes burnt and goes from 0.30ohm to 0.12ohm on my mod. So i decide to take my atomizer of the mod and back on. And now it shows 0.30 ohms again. I dont understand, and it still tastes burnt. God, i have been spending way much time with this.

    Thanks for the hint about hitting a vape store. I think i should try and get some time to get some help there. But not until next thursday :D
     
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    I really think 1 of your coils is shot.
    Take them out and do a quick ohm check on your meter with each coil separately.
    Does coil #1 read 0.3 ohms?
    If yes put it off to the side and check coil #2.
    However if it 9's* out toss it.
    Does coil #2 read 0.3 ohms?
    If yes put it next to coil #1 you're now halfway home.
    Again remember if it 9's* out toss it.

    Now if both coils were good you can proceed to the actual build.
    It should kind of look like this pic below.

    [​IMG]

    With the inside lead on the bottom, and the outside lead on the top.That way you ain't (crossing the streams).

    [​IMG]

    I still think your best bet would be to get something a bit easier to use.I personally use my Atlantis Mega the most as it is the easiest thing I own to fill and change out coils.It vapes damn good too.Which is always a plus.
     
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    Well just take it easy and try to not smoke alright.If you really really need to then hit the old stinkies.
    Nobody here is going to go ape shit on you over a few cigarettes.Yes even including me.
    Keep in mind vaping is supposed to be a journey.And no journey is complete without a few detours.
    Hell I've had more than my fair share of misadventures and lost weekends myself.
     
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    This isn't gonna help you a whole lot @Youngvapor, but for future newbies maybe it will.

    I think it's best to have another device that just works - that you don't have to mess with, just put juice in it and vape. Some people pick up building faster than others and if the only atomizer you own has to be built before you can vape, and one encounters the troubles you have, then most likely it's back to the cigarettes as you've already stated.

    I'm just about to begin my building journey, or rather let me say, my assembling and wicking journey since it was said on another thread that it's not building if you don't make your own clapton and alien wire and wrap the coils yourself, and endure all sorts of hell before you can start vaping, but I digress.

    My point is, I have 5 other devices that I can use while I'm learning to wick. If one breaks, I'll just grab another one. They all use factory tanks and coils so as long as the glass doesn't break and I have good coils, I don't have to revert to cigarettes when my nerves get ragged.

    I don't know what kind of atty you're trying to build on, but there are a lot of good tanks that come with coils you just screw in, fill with juice and vape on. The Smok TFV8 is a popular one that comes to mind. This will allow you to vape while you get comfortable with building.

    Or maybe I've misunderstood the whole thread and everything I said is useless. ;)
     
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    Hi and thanks for your replies. I do have another mod Worthington, but the plan was to be happy with my new mod :) It was just so insanely satisfying to use the first day. Then all suddenly next day it started to leak, i figured out it was the leaking. So i changed the wicks and then all hell started to break loose.

    Story for today
    I came into the vape shop and got good contact with the workers there. We sat down and i showed him my coils. He saw that the screws where not tight enough (I trusted my umbraco key from Smok way to much). So all he did was to tighten it, he said that over tightening doesn't matter. He also rewicked it for me. So when he was finished it still shows off 0.30 ohms. Well i guess it just stays the same. Anyways, flavor was good, not fantastic. So i went out of the vape shop and felt happy about the result. After i walked some meters puffing the ecig the problem came back. I now have burnt taste again..

    I just dont understand what the problem is.....

    I have a wismec rx 300 and Tfv12 with the rba dual deck
    Ohms still keeps jumping around from the .20 - .35 range
     
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    I could be wrong but I believe you've got either a bad atty, or bullshit screws.
     
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    Troubleshooting coils

    First coil result : 0.30ohms single
    Second Coil result : 0.30ohms single

    Both coils connected : 0.30

    Now tell me, how is it not possible to be 0.15 ????
     
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    I can't understand how both coils can just jump in ohms when they are connected to the mod.
    I also cannot understand how and why i end up with the troubleshooting result

    For the dry burns, i have no idea how that can happen. Could it be the seals? I dont know
     
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    As for the connection i just did like this

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    I went back and looked thru this thread. At no time do I see where you mentioned what atomizer or mod you're using.
     
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    Wismec Reuleaux 300 and tfv12 togheter with the rba dual velocity rba deck. As with the screws, i dont think its them. They are tight and i never get a shortage anymore :)

    Only thing i dont understand is the burnt taste and the 0.30 ohms :D

    I saw some in a forum and they say 0.30ohms is for more like 50 watts and not 80 watts like i have been using all the time.
     
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    I've seen more than a few people give up on vaping due to various issues like those.
    I almost gave up myself.Luckily my wife talked me down from that ledge.

    Just to clarify...Regardless of coil type if you are wrapping your own coils you are building .
    If you are using pre-built coils you're assembling.
    If you're using coil-heads you're installing.

    Yep back ups for your back up and at least 2 emergency devices.

    That is a really good tank I love my Baby Beast.

    Nope you nailed it
     
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    Screw issue.
     
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    Yep screw issue.
     
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    Did you connect them like the pic I put up.
    Inside lead on the bottom, and the outside lead on the top.
     
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    He has a TFV12 so I think it is a screw issue.
     
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    That's my first thought too since he said he changed a screw and it dropped to .20, then later said the guy at the ape shop tightened the screws, rewicked, and it worked pretty well for a few minutes.

    @snake94115 do you know if the Reuleux 300 is plagued with 510 issues like the Sigeleis
     
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    I recall at least 1 YouTube video mentioning Reddit comments on the subject but can't remember exactly when or who posted what.Sorry my old brain needs more coffee.
    If I don't get back to you in a few.more than likely I can't find the damn video because I lost my old bookmarks when I upgraded to my new computer.
     
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    I was just wondering if they had the typical Wismec 510 because a lot of Kaos and Reuleux owners hae had 510s to pop out in the last week or so.
     
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    I heard about those.
    Couldn't locate that dang video that mentioned the RX 300 having similar issues.
     
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    OK, @Youngvapor, try this. Put another atty on your mod and see if it reads correctly. Without eliminating one or the other as the culprit, there's no way to single out the cause of your problem.

    If you use another atty and your problems go away, then you know the trouble is in the TFV12 deck.

    If your problems continues, try the TFV12 on another mod. If it acts right, then you know the trouble is in your Wismec mod.

    Until you do this, anything anybody comes up with is mostly speculation.
     
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    Ok guys. So i can confirm that the other atomizer has been working. (Kangertech topbox atty) I used it on my mod before i got the tfv12.
    Only thing that was different from the topbox mod and the wismec was that it gave out much more power on hits. You know, feels like the hits is richer. Maybe because of more battery power.


    Ok so inside the topbox atty i have a clapton OCC coil. It is meant to be 0.50 ohms (says so on coil head).

    Here are my results (when checking with topbox atty)
    Putting the atty onto ohm meter pulls out 0.30 ohms while the wismec mod pulls out 0.62 ohms.
    I think there is something wrong with this ohm meter. Wismec seems to give a better result.

    I can tell i used this topbox atty for more than a month on the wismec (while waiting for tfv12), and i had no problems.

    UPDATE: Okay so i put my tfv12 that shows 0.30 on the wismec over to my topbox mod. On the topbox it shows 0.23 . Much closer to 0.15.

    Update V2: So. I saw some youtube videos. I cleaned the battery pins, because they were terribly dirty. Battery cover is now not so loose. I rewicked and now it is working great. I provides a great amount of flavor and i get those hits i have been missing for a long time.I also get a significant amount of air bubbles now coming up, it is more responsive now than it has ever been. I can also notice that when i fire, it does not fire off immidiately. It has this little delay that it is supposed to. I can now run it easily at 93 watts without any cotton or burnt taste. Flavour is also back to the fantastic taste.

    Probably the problems has been:

    1: Battery pins has been dirty, giving unstable power to the coil. Clean them with cloth. You can also take out the batteries and clean them to.

    2: Battery cover has been to loose, also giving unstable power. Use your thumbs and press as hard as u can against the battery cover multiple times. Your battery cover is tight when you can push it up without seeing the batteries loosing connection (from the display)

    3: I have wicked it way to tight. Liquid has been pulled upwards instead of (side upwards). Move the wicks to the side and stroke them then carefully pull them down.

    4: Coils have been too close to the cap, causing atomizer shortage. Move them closer to the center.

    5: Wismec is reading more than .10 ohms wrong (since the topbox read 0.23) That is a FACT!

    6: Shortage on the wires, i did not tighten the screws properly. Avoid the umbraco coming with the RBA kit and buy a pack of coils and use their umbraco instead. Tighten them as good as you can. Also make sure that the coils dont go out on the other side of the holes.


    Took me a total of 6 days to make it working properly again. I hope experienced users and beginners can now save some time :)

    I hope this helps to everyone that have the same setup as i have.
    I also recommend wismec users to update the firmware.
    I also advice to do the Scottish Roll technique with the wicking. Make sure you roll it as tight as possible.

    Problem SOLVED !!!

    Thanks to everyone in the forum that came with troubleshooting tips and all the engagement. My life is saved, and happy vaping to all!!
     
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    Good deal! I'm happy you finally got it sorted out. Now you have some experience, it'll be easier.
     
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    Glad you got it all working again.
     
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    Many thanks for all the support!
     
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