Possible nicotine trouble--Help Please

[arrowcrest]

Hi: I just bought some Vapers Tek nicotine and have a question. I have used it for 2 years at same mixture from them , VG base 100Mg./ML. I am using my same recipe I have used for over a year. Problem is it had a smell to it and after using it for about 3 weeks I got like a blister in the top of my mouth. It went away and just came back. Now my wife (who uses more nicotine than me) has same thing. She vapes same flavor as me. Nothing else has been changed. Has anyone else had a similar problem?

 

[inspects]

Sorry to hear this. I don't recall reading any rave reviews about their products in the past.

If it has an odd smell, that would be a first clue something isn't right.

 

[CJ-3]

If you're getting a blister inside your mouth it's time to see a doctor.

 

[Whiskeywarrior]

Is your wife faithful?

 

[MrScaryZ]

Hi: I just bought some Vapers Tek nicotine and have a question. I have used it for 2 years at same mixture from them , VG base 100Mg./ML. I am using my same recipe I have used for over a year. Problem is it had a smell to it and after using it for about 3 weeks I got like a blister in the top of my mouth. It went away and just came back. Now my wife (who uses more nicotine than me) has same thing. She vapes same flavor as me. Nothing else has been changed. Has anyone else had a similar problem?

sounds like herpes simplex or a bacterial infection or maybe leprosy could be many things seek the advice of a qualified health care professional

 

[Mike H.]

Is your wife faithful?

LMAO

 

[Ryedan]

Hi: I just bought some Vapers Tek nicotine and have a question. I have used it for 2 years at same mixture from them , VG base 100Mg./ML. I am using my same recipe I have used for over a year. Problem is it had a smell to it and after using it for about 3 weeks I got like a blister in the top of my mouth. It went away and just came back. Now my wife (who uses more nicotine than me) has same thing. She vapes same flavor as me. Nothing else has been changed. Has anyone else had a similar problem?

I have got a blister in my mouth when I've heated up my leftover pizza a bit too hot

Seriously, I have to agree with everyone who has said see a doc. And if you really think it's from the nic, stop using it in the meantime ... stranger things have happened. Best of luck with it!

 

[PhantomOp]

Get a NIC test kit --- find out if something is wrong with the nicotine levels.
$9 + s/h

https://wizardlabs.us/index.php?route=product/product&path=84&product_id=243

 

[HondaDavidson]

Through the bottle away. Get new nic.... just based on things not smelling right......
Do go to doctor.....
But it could be your nic spoiled or got contaminated.
Stuff is too cheap to figure out what's wrong with it...it's bad.. See Doc get new juice.. deal only with what's wrong with you.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk

 

[Huckleberried]

Just for future's sake, I agree, get a nic test kit. Most of the nic that I have in my freezer is from them, never an issue. For the other, I also agree, see a Dr.

 

[MrScaryZ]

Sitting here I am wondering did you freeze this NICOTINE or has it just been sitting on a shelf for the elements to get to?

 

[Rin Vapes]

In my experience the VapersTek VG based NIC tends to oxidize quicker than other NIC, especially if it's left out. (now I freeze the unused NIC until I'm ready to use it)
Usually if there's an off smell, the NIC is bad or going bad. Is the NIC very yellow or pinkish?

 

[deadmau5whomp]

In my experience the VapersTek VG based NIC tends to oxidize quicker than other NIC, especially if it's left out. (now I freeze the unused NIC until I'm ready to use it)
Usually if there's an off smell, the NIC is bad or going bad. Is the NIC very yellow or pinkish?

Question, I just bought a bottle of VT nic and I am waiting on my glass bottles to arrive to put split it up in but i haven't even opened the bag that the nic came in, or opened the bottle. I put it in the dark closet, pretty cool in the room too. Will it be okay for a couple days? I took it straight in there from the box it was shipped in.

 

[PhantomOp]

Question, I just bought a bottle of VT nic and I am waiting on my glass bottles to arrive to put split it up in but i haven't even opened the bag that the nic came in, or opened the bottle. I put it in the dark closet, pretty cool in the room too. Will it be okay for a couple days? I took it straight in there from the box it was shipped in.

Personally, I store my NIC in the fridge if I don't have time to split it up. After splitting it up, I then freeze what i'm not using, and fridge the single bottle that I am using.

EDIT: I have a separate fridge and all NIC is labeled as that -- NICOTINE. I don't have any small kids in the house that I have to worry about them getting into it. {DISCLAIMER OF STATEMENT}

However, in a dark room is perfectly fine as well. Don't open it --- that will expose oxygen to the NIC.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

Personally, I store my NIC in the fridge if I don't have time to split it up. After splitting it up, I then freeze what i'm not using, and fridge the single bottle that I am using.

EDIT: I have a separate fridge and all NIC is labeled as that -- NICOTINE. I don't have any small kids in the house that I have to worry about them getting into it. {DISCLAIMER OF STATEMENT}

However, in a dark room is perfectly fine as well. Don't open it --- that will expose oxygen to the NIC.

I didn't open it. the bottle is even still in the plastic bag that it came in

 

[PhantomOp]

I didn't open it. the bottle is even still in the plastic bag that it came in

Perfect! They fill the bottle with "?? argon gas ??" if I remember correctly to seal out the oxygen.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

Perfect! They fill the bottle with "?? argon gas ??" if I remember correctly to seal out the oxygen.

thought about buying a bottle of this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000DCS18/ref=psdc_13299321_t1_B001AS4NCM

 

[PhantomOp]

I can't think of a reason to spend the $$ on it. I fill my glass bottles to the top and seal them shut. I use the rubber stopper top caps.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

I can't think of a reason to spend the $$ on it. I fill my glass bottles to the top and seal them shut. I use the rubber stopper top caps.

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ah, i am waiting on a bunch of them caps to come in! what label maker you use, been looking for a good one

 

[Vapin-Dave]

I've noticed that the last couple bottles of juice I made seem a bit harsh. I split the 46mg/ml nic up and kept 30ml in a darkened unicorn bottle at room temps (and in a box) and the remainder is in the fridge. I was under the impression that the 'WORKING' bottle of nic didn't need to be refrigerated. The nic is also 100% VG based.

The first couple of bottles of juice that I made about a week ago don't seem harsh at all. I did shake up the nic before transferring to the working bottle and shook the working bottle before using it. The room that the working bottle is kept in is usually between 68 to 77 deg. F. Do you think that the room is too warm or that I possibly didn't shake the bottle up enough?

 

[deadmau5whomp]

I've noticed that the last couple bottles of juice I made seem a bit harsh. I split the 46mg/ml nic up and kept 30ml in a darkened unicorn bottle at room temps (and in a box) and the remainder is in the fridge. I was under the impression that the 'WORKING' bottle of nic didn't need to be refrigerated. The nic is also 100% VG based.

The first couple of bottles that I made about a week ago don't seem harsh at all. I did shake up the nic before transferring to the working bottle and shook the working bottle before using it. The room that the working bottle is kept in is usually between 68 to 77 deg. F. Do you think that the room is too warm or that I possibly didn't shake the bottle up enough?

Good question, i am new to this as well and have wondered about the working bottle

 

[Vapin-Dave]

Good question, i am new to this as well and have wondered about the working bottle

Sounds like many here put their working bottle in the fridge. I had read/heard that others just left it out at room temps. Although my room temps are a bit on the warm side. I've only had the working bottle out for about 10 days. I was just wondering if that was enough time for the temps to make a difference or if it was likely just a lack of mixing on my part.

 

[PhantomOp]

I've noticed that the last couple bottles of juice I made seem a bit harsh. I split the 46mg/ml nic up and kept 30ml in a darkened unicorn bottle at room temps (and in a box) and the remainder is in the fridge. I was under the impression that the 'WORKING' bottle of nic didn't need to be refrigerated. The nic is also 100% VG based.

The first couple of bottles of juice that I made about a week ago don't seem harsh at all. I did shake up the nic before transferring to the working bottle and shook the working bottle before using it. The room that the working bottle is kept in is usually between 68 to 77 deg. F. Do you think that the room is too warm or that I possibly didn't shake the bottle up enough?

I did the exact same thing with my FIRST bottle of Nicotine --- MISTAKE!

From what I've read here on VU and from the chemist (Krista) that I have spoken with at Wizard Labs (I work 15 minutes away and have a good relationship with WL) --- NEVER STORE NIC IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE.

STORE being the operative word. The vendors ship the NIC in plastic bottles due to costs, that is all. They expect the end user to know that it should be stored in a GLASS bottle (amber / dark preferred).

My working bottle is only out of the fridge long enough to mix my juice and then it goes right back in the fridge. The least amount of air (oxygen) exposure the better.

 

[PhantomOp]

ah, i am waiting on a bunch of them caps to come in! what label maker you use, been looking for a good one

It's probably overkill, but I use the Brother P-Touch label system. PC connectable.

 

[Vapin-Dave]

I did the exact same thing with my FIRST bottle of Nicotine --- MISTAKE!

OK ... Thanks. But would 10 days in the bottle at the temps mentioned make that much of a difference? And if so is the working bottle of nic still salvageable?

 

[deadmau5whomp]

It's probably overkill, but I use the Brother P-Touch label system. PC connectable.

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No such thing as overkill with me lol, i am anal about my hobbies. My fiance is not liking this hobby so far. hahaha lots of deliveries so far.

 

[PhantomOp]

OK ... Thanks. But would 10 days in the bottle at the temps mentioned make that much of a difference? And if so is the working bottle of nic still salvageable?

From what Krista told me, NIC doesn't "go bad" --- it oxidizes. That is what makes it taste "harsh / peppery".

If you can handle the "harsh" then go for it... i personally (and the wife) can't handle it and have to have NIC with zero taste / smell / peppery hit.

 

[Vapin-Dave]

No such thing as overkill with me lol, i am anal about my hobbies. My fiance is not liking this hobby so far. hahaha lots of deliveries so far.

Well in that case maybe you should get one of these!!

 

[PhantomOp]

anal about my hobbies

We call it "OCD" -- I have to have certain things orderly --- not everything, just some things.
Crappy labels on my juice bottles irritated the crap out of me.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

From what Krista told me, NIC doesn't "go bad" --- it oxidizes. That is what makes it taste "harsh / peppery".

If you can handle the "harsh" then go for it... i personally (and the wife) can't handle it and have to have NIC with zero taste / smell / peppery hit.

do you refrigerate your working bottle?

 

[PhantomOp]

Well in that case maybe you should get one of these!!

If I wanted to spend that kind of $$$ on it I probably would --- but i'm not quite that bad "yet".

 

[PhantomOp]

do you refrigerate your working bottle?

My working bottle is only out of the fridge long enough to mix my juice and then it goes right back in the fridge. The least amount of air (oxygen) exposure the better.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

is it not hard to suck up VG nic cold lol

 

[Vapin-Dave]

From what Krista told me, NIC doesn't "go bad" --- it oxidizes. That is what makes it taste "harsh / peppery".

If you can handle the "harsh" then go for it... i personally (and the wife) can't handle it and have to have NIC with zero taste / smell / peppery hit.

Yeah ... kinda bugs me too. I guess I could drop the nic down a bit and see if that helps. Some testing is definitely in order though. I'm going to make another small batch and really mix the working bottle up to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm assuming that if it is oxidized then putting it in the fridge at this point isn't going to help anything. (Well except for stopping it from oxidizing further I suppose. )

 

[PhantomOp]

is it not hard to suck up VG nic cold lol

VERY HARD! --- I have to let it sit out of the fridge for 30 min (not opened) before mixing in my juice. AND --- remember to shake the hell out of the bottle once it has come down to working temps. The NIC settles / separates from the VG or PG base.

 

[AndriaD]

I've noticed that the last couple bottles of juice I made seem a bit harsh. I split the 46mg/ml nic up and kept 30ml in a darkened unicorn bottle at room temps (and in a box) and the remainder is in the fridge. I was under the impression that the 'WORKING' bottle of nic didn't need to be refrigerated. The nic is also 100% VG based.

The first couple of bottles of juice that I made about a week ago don't seem harsh at all. I did shake up the nic before transferring to the working bottle and shook the working bottle before using it. The room that the working bottle is kept in is usually between 68 to 77 deg. F. Do you think that the room is too warm or that I possibly didn't shake the bottle up enough?

I keep my stored nicotine in the freezer. The "working" bottle, I keep in the fridge unless I'm actually mixing -- the fridge does get opened more than the freezer, but it's mostly closed, so, dark *most* all the time, and kept at 40F. PG and VG and flavors, I keep at room temp, but nic should be kept at least cold and in a dim or dark place, if you're not going to use up an opened bottle within a few days, max.

Andria

 

[PhantomOp]

I guess I could drop the nic down a bit and see if that helps

What %% are you mixing at ?

really mix the working bottle up to

Shake the HELL out of it.

I'm assuming that if it is oxidized then putting it in the fridge at this point isn't going to help anything

Nope -- oxidation has already taken it's toll.

 

[Vapin-Dave]

is it not hard to suck up VG nic cold lol

I think the issue is more being able to mix it properly before using it from my understanding. Too thick to mix when it's cold.

What %% are you mixing at ?

Only 3mg nic ... which is also why I was surprised that it was noticeable.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

I keep my stored nicotine in the freezer. The "working" bottle, I keep in the fridge unless I'm actually mixing -- the fridge does get opened more than the freezer, but it's mostly closed, so, dark *most* all the time, and kept at 40F. PG and VG and flavors, I keep at room temp, but nic should be kept at least cold and in a dim or dark place, if you're not going to use up an opened bottle within a few days, max.

Andria

do you put the nic bottle in like a butter container or just leave the bottle out, i only have clear tupperware, i put them in a small shoebox hahahaha

 

[PhantomOp]

Only 3mg nic

Same here -- 3% --- I was surprised as well. But yes, very noticeable for us.

do you put the nic bottle in like a butter container or just leave the bottle out, i only have clear tupperware, i put them in a small shoebox hahahaha

I have a plastic Tupperware container that I have all of my NIC bottles in. So far it has been fine (not broken) but at some point it will possibly break (plastic sucks, don't care who makes it). I wanted my glass bottles to be protected by something just in the small case a glass bottle were to break.

 

[deadmau5whomp]

Same here -- 3% --- I was surprised as well. But yes, very noticeable for us.


I have a plastic Tupperware container that I have all of my NIC bottles in. So far it has been fine (not broken) but at some point it will possibly break (plastic sucks, don't care who makes it). I wanted my glass bottles to be protected by something just in the small case a glass bottle were to break.

a clear container will work?

 

[PhantomOp]

a clear container will work?

 

[deadmau5whomp]

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oh you have much larger bottles lol. i only have 30 ml, i haven't noticed any difference in leaving my working bottle in the closet, but i will try leaving it in the fridge.

 

[PhantomOp]

oh you have much larger bottles lol. i only have 30 ml, i haven't noticed any difference in leaving my working bottle in the closet, but i will try leaving it in the fridge.

I have the 2oz (60ml) and 4oz (118ml) Boston Round Amber --- got them from Papermart.com
I've found cheaper since then (currently have the best pricing though), but that is what we use for the pure vanilla extract we make (side thing from vaping).

 

[AndriaD]

do you put the nic bottle in like a butter container or just leave the bottle out, i only have clear tupperware, i put them in a small shoebox hahahaha

Most of my nicotine is in 30ml brown glass bottles -- since I vape only about 5ml per day, mix up only 55ml every 10 days or so, I need it in small bottles, so that whichever bottle is open can be gotten thru within a reasonable amount of time (to avoid exactly this oxidation problem). I keep the 30ml bottles in the door of my fridge, along with condiments. Since there are no children of ANY age in my home, and my husband can read "100mg nicotine" and the date, he's not likely to mistake my nicotine for anything else.

Once I get to the larger bottles (60ml, 100ml, and 120ml) in which I also have some nic in the freezer, I'll decant 30ml into one of the smaller bottles to use as a "working" bottle, so that the larger amounts don't have to be opened too many times and left in the fridge; though any opening allows air which is the major oxidizer, keeping the remainder at freezer-temp will slow down oxidation a lot better than fridge-temp.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Same here -- 3% --- I was surprised as well. But yes, very noticeable for us.

3% is 30mg -- 3mg is .3%

Andria

 

[PhantomOp]

It is still 3% in a TOTAL of the juice mix (according to the calculators). It is .3ml in a 10ml mix.

 

[AndriaD]

It is still 3% in a TOTAL of the juice mix (according to the calculators). It is .3ml in a 10ml mix.

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Yes, you're right, but you're using 100mg nicotine, which is 10%. 3% of 10% is .3%.

Andria

 

[Mike H.]

I personally wasn't aware youre supposed to store it in a glass bottle..for the last 3 years ive kept mine in the plastic container its come in but I can honestly say ive not had an issue with the nicotine because of it...no blisters or anything like that..I shake up my container and pull 1ml out of it to put in my 30ml mix for 3% nic...Actually a hair over ..3% would be .9, I just simplify it...The PG/Nic mix is still as clear as the day I bought it.

 

[Vapin-Dave]

OK ... So I made up a 10 ml sample with no flavouring. Just 80/20 VG/PG and 3mg nic strength. I shook up the 'working' bottle of nic VERY well before adding it and then shook up the mixture as well. I'm finding it a TAD harsh but not really that bad at all and there's a slight peppery taste but very minimal. I think I'm going to store the working bottle of nic in the fridge for now and do another test against the remaining nic that has been kept in the fridge since I got it. I also added a bit more VG to the last harsh mixtures I made and it seemed to help them a bit.

So now I'm wondering if I just didn't shake the nic up enough before adding it to my mixtures or perhaps some of my flavours are a bit high. I'll be sure to report back after I compare to the nic I've kept in the fridge.