Restricted flavoring shipping...what the heck?!?

[JuicyLucy]

So, I'm about to place a BCF order and a number of the flavors I'm considering or buy on a regular basis are are now "restricted shipping." Says they have a flashpoint of under 100 degrees F and cannot be shipping by USPS and then only ship ground shipping with another carrier.

I live in Alaska and even lowly ground shipping costs the moon and the stars compared to USPS

Are other sellers pulling this too? This is a really big deal to me
There are two full pages of restricted flavors

 

[Diescum88]

Wth? Really, I haven't ordered from em in a few weeks but didn't have that happen with the Blue-Rasp berry when I ordered. That's Bs that their doing that now :/

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[MrScaryZ]

So, I'm about to place a BCF order and a number of the flavors I'm considering or buy on a regular basis are are now "restricted shipping." Says they have a flashpoint of under 100 degrees F and cannot be shipping by USPS and then only ship ground shipping with another carrier.

I live in Alaska and even lowly ground shipping costs the moon and the stars compared to USPS

Are other sellers pulling this too? This is a really big deal to me
There are two full pages of restricted flavors
View attachment 72831

There is no way those flavors have a flash point of 100F

 

[misswish]

It sounds like the USPS is getting involved. More restrictions.

 

[JuicyLucy]

It sounds like the USPS is getting involved. More restrictions.

They'd be catching on fire in our atties if that was true

 

[scalewiz]

Might have something to do with containing alcohol?

 

[JuicyLucy]

So looking through the site, the restricted is on some of the bulk sizes.

They are offering four-packs of 30 ml of the ones where bulk is restricted - but, it is more expensive.

Example: TFA Boysenberry costs $11.75 for a four-pack, 120 mls.

The TFA Boysenberry in bulk, 4oz. (118.294 mls) is only $10.75

 

[RonJS]

Are other sellers pulling this too?

Got an email from WL which contained....
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Ground Only Products
Products denoted with the symbol

or "U.S. ONLY" have certain shipping restrictions in accordance with 49 CFR 172.101, based on their flash-point (Flavor Concentrates), or 49 CFR 173.153, based on their toxicity (Nicotine Solutions). Products denoted with the symbol

will require the entire order to be shipped via ground transportation only. Products denoted with the symbol

or "U.S. ONLY" are ineligible to be shipped internationally. To see the list of flavors that are ineligible for air transportation, click HERE.
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Ron
(my avatar is me in downtown Eagle, Alaska)
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"I am a road man for the lords of karma."- Hunter S. Thompson

 

[JuicyLucy]

Ron
(my avatar is me in downtown Eagle, Alaska)
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That was probably a bumpy ride

 

[Cosmic]

WTF???!!! When did this Shite start?? Flash point restrictions!? My God, what's next! I'm almost totally diy, this so bites. God Lucy, I feel for ya, being way up there and all. So I'm assuming this applies to nicotine as well?

 

[JuicyLucy]

WTF???!!! When did this Shite start?? Flash point restrictions!? My God, what's next! I'm almost totally diy, this so bites. God Lucy, I feel for ya, being way up there and all. So I'm assuming this applies to nicotine as well?

I'm good on nic till I die, lol. BCV does not sell nic, just flavoring, but it's my go-to

I'm not seeing this on other flavor selling sites - but everyone keep your eyes open

Not sure, sometimes ground shipping on UPS or what have you is cheaper for Lower 48 folks.

It's just the factor that gets to me

I doubt BCF is doing this just for the fun of it

 

[RonJS]

That was probably a bumpy ride

Not as bad a ride as doing the Haul Road up to Deadhorse.

I hope ground/surface transportation for you does not mean... trucked across the lower 48 to Seattle... placed in a barge going up the Inside Passage...to then be unloaded onto a dogsled for final delivery!

Ron
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“You can't find the right roads when the streets are paved.” ― Bob Marley

 

[JuicyLucy]

Not as bad a ride as doing the Haul Road up to Deadhorse.

I hope ground/surface transportation for you does not mean... trucked across the lower 48 to Seattle... placed in a barge going up the Inside Passage...to then be unloaded onto a dogsled for final delivery!

Ron
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“You can't find the right roads when the streets are paved.” ― Bob Marley

No, it means paying big bucks for them to fly it here from Seattle anyway

 

[Teresa P]

Nicotine River sent out emails last month. Pain in the arse, it is. In my opinion, it's just another BS move to make us look bad, like we're doing something "dangerous."
http://www.vapingunderground.com/threads/nicotine-river-updates.296077/

 

[Zamazam]

For Christ's sake, I can order Muratic acid concrete cleaner (Hydrochloric Acid) and have it sent USPS. That's a hell of a lot more dangerous than flavoring concentrates.

 

[Teresa P]

For Christ's sake, I can order Muratic acid concrete cleaner (Hydrochloric Acid) and have it sent USPS. That's a hell of a lot more dangerous than flavoring concentrates.

Which further proves my point.

 

[nightshard]

I do know the flavors containing alcohol are restricted to small sizes only.

 

[Deeks]

I wonder how or if this will affect the over $75 free shipping, rarely order less and I do like to buy 4oz bottles.

 

[Huckleberried]

Looks like it's gonna happen all over. WL, Nic River, now BCF. Blame FDA, I know vendors have to be throwing a shit fit over all this. So, now my question is, will confectionaries, and the like, be affected as well?

 

[JuicyLucy]

Looks like it's gonna happen all over. WL, Nic River, now BCF. Blame FDA, I know vendors have to be throwing a shit fit over all this. So, now my question is, will confectionaries, and the like, be affected as well?

Can't have exploding candy on the streets - think of the children!!!!

 

[Huckleberried]

Can't have exploding candy on the streets - think of the children!!!!

That gives me an idea. I need to take more candy to work.

 

[AndriaD]

So, I'm about to place a BCF order and a number of the flavors I'm considering or buy on a regular basis are are now "restricted shipping." Says they have a flashpoint of under 100 degrees F and cannot be shipping by USPS and then only ship ground shipping with another carrier.

I live in Alaska and even lowly ground shipping costs the moon and the stars compared to USPS

Are other sellers pulling this too? This is a really big deal to me
There are two full pages of restricted flavors
View attachment 72831

I dunno about those particular ones, but I know that TPA/TFA pulls that shit with their Cherry Extract. Check WizLabs; I get TFA Cherry Extract from them without drama (or extra charges).

Andria

 

[Zamazam]

Looks like it's gonna happen all over. WL, Nic River, now BCF. Blame FDA, I know vendors have to be throwing a shit fit over all this. So, now my question is, will confectionaries, and the like, be affected as well?

They will, they also order 100 liter barrels at a time.

 

[Zamazam]

Can't have exploding candy on the streets - think of the children!!!!

Pop Rocks anyone? LOL

 

[JuicyLucy]

Pop Rocks anyone? LOL

Pop rocks would rock in a vape - doctor has put the kibosh on eating candy or any sugar, corn syrup, etc.

Great DIY vaping is more important than ever now!

 

[Mike H.]

don't forget to take a big swig of cola with the mouth full of pop rocks...its delightful

 

[JuicyLucy]

don't forget to take a big swig of cola with the mouth full of pop rocks...its delightful

Yeah, but it doesn't as per the urban myth

I tried

 

[The Cromwell]

Mentos and diet coke.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Mentos and diet coke.

If the FDA is going to go banning stuff - diet coke and Mentos would be on my list

 

[Mike H.]

Yeah, but it doesn't as per the urban myth

I tried

you took all the fun out of it for me

 

[The Cromwell]

Artificial sweeteners by prescription only for diabetics.

 

[RonJS]

- doctor has put the kibosh on eating candy or any sugar, corn syrup, etc.

Heck, to promote additional exercise, that doctor could also kibosh any mechanical/electrical juice mixing aids !

Sounds to me you might need a new Doctor!

Ron
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"I'm just like you. I enjoy the forbidden fruits in life, too."- Mike Tyson

 

[AndriaD]

I gave my dog pop rocks once. I thought it was hilarious. My mom told me to stop tormenting the dog,

Andria

 

[Rin Vapes]

I gave my dog pop rocks once. I thought it was hilarious. My mom told me to stop tormenting the dog,

Andria

That's funny.

 

[Rin Vapes]

Pop rocks would rock in a vape - doctor has put the kibosh on eating candy or any sugar, corn syrup, etc.

I just recently got OoO Watermelon Pop Rocks... Not quite sure how I feel about it yet.

 

[AndriaD]

That's funny.

I thought it was! My mom was less amused. I'd love to give it to my cat, but she's such a fraidycat, she'd probably run hide under the bed and never come out.

Andria

 

[UncleRJ]

USPS does have a ground shipping only option.

All they gotta do at the post office is rubber stamp the package with a image of a plane with an X through it.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

They just now realized flavoring/nicotine concentrates fall under restrictions that have been in place longer than vaping has been around

 

[The Cromwell]

They just now realized flavoring/nicotine concentrates fall under restrictions that have been in place longer than vaping has been around

Yes this is nothing new except the market increased dramatically for nicotine , flamable flavorings and juice containing nicotine.
There will be some other existing laws jump up involving vaping.

 

[JuicyLucy]

 

[AndriaD]

I agree. I think the USPS just figured out a new way to rape consumers, since increasing postage prices 100 times while decreasing service a thousand times just wasn't enough for them.

Andria

 

[The Cromwell]

I like USPS they bring me vape stuff

 

[JuicyLucy]

I like USPS they bring me vape stuff

UPS charges too much for Alaskans and Hawaiians - USPS is as good as it gets for us

 

[AndriaD]

Well, there's a reason for "going postal" becoming a synonym for the murderous rage that ensues while dealing with ignorant and deliberately obtuse bureaucrats in love with their own obtuseness. Obtusity. Whichever.


Andria

 

[AndriaD]

They charge too much for Alaskans and Hawaiians

They charge too much for every damn thing every damn where.

Andria

 

[The Cromwell]

Well, there's a reason for "going postal" becoming a synonym for the murderous rage that ensues while dealing with ignorant and deliberately obtuse bureaucrats in love with their own obtuseness. Obtusity. Whichever.


Andria

Actually I remember where "going postal" came from.
Military vet with issues shot up a postal center.

 

[scalewiz]

All regulations force people to go underground.

A friend places and receives the order and forwards it.

 

[The Cromwell]

They charge too much for every damn thing every damn where.

Andria

Use Fedex or UPS or DHL then.

 

[UncleRJ]

Actually I remember where "going postal" came from.
Military vet with issues shot up a postal center.

I have my own issues with USPS.

Both the Mrs and I call her the Lazy Mail Bitch for good reason.

Screw the whole "Rain nor Snow nor Sleet of Night thing".

Half the time even though the package will fit in my HUGE MAILBOX (the largest model approved by USPS) she will not even load it in her truck and leave the card instead.

Try as much as I can, can't get another carrier assigned to my rout or get her fired!

 

[AndriaD]

Actually I remember where "going postal" came from.
Military vet with issues shot up a postal center.

And I cannot blame him one iota.

Andria