1. UP FOR A NEW CHALLENGE? CLICK HERE TO CHECK IT OUT

Warning: My Aspire Atlantis coil just FELL APART while I was vaping, and particles got lodged in my

Discussion in 'Factory replacement heads and coils' started by supermarket, Feb 26, 2015.

  1. supermarket

    supermarket New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2014
    Messages:
    90
    I'm coming on here to give a fair warning to everyone, and letting them know that there IS something wrong with these coils. Against my better judgement, I've been using the Aspire Atlantis (not with the new cotton coils), for about 3 weeks now.

    Today, as I was vaping, I felt a STRONG burn in the back of my throat, and immeditately started coughing. This was about 30 minutes ago, and I'm still coughing pretty hard every few minutes, and NOTHING will stop it. I can feel whatever it is, stuck in my throat, and can't get it out. It is itching my throat, irritating it, and it hurts.

    Suspecting the atlantis coil, because it happened WHILE vaping, I went back downstairs after trying for a good 10 minutes to clear my throat with water, food, ANYTHING. I look inside the drip tip on the altlantis, and lo and behold, I see a BUNCH of gunk from the coil. I've never, in over 3 year of vaping, seen anything like this in a drip tip....not to mention the large parts, I still have no idea what part of the coil it is.

    I'll try to get pictures on here later. I just tried now, but I need better lighting.

    Right now, I have color, phlegm like material coming from both nose and mouth, because my body is trying to expel whatever it is that is stuck in my throat. I hope for my sake it'll resolve itself, but for now, I'm stuck with a terrible cough, and a feeling in my throat I can't get rid of.


    I'm only posting this as a warning to others - be CAREFUL with the Atlantis. I did NOTHING out of the ordinary, and it was only running at 3.8volts (22watts or so).



    [I posted this on ECF as well, because I want to get this info out there. This sucks and I hope no one else has to deal with this]
     
  2. Bobx

    Bobx Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    419
    Are you going to take it apart to see what fell appart?? If so do it gently so as not to disturb things too much.
     
    Smoky Blue likes this.
  3. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    What did it turn out to be?
     
  4. KKen

    KKen Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    That "gunk" is parts of the ceramic fibers that came loose. The way these clearomizers are designed to be vaped, (direct lung hit) along with the materials used is not what I would consider as a "safer" alternative to smoking IMO.

    Would recommend you shelve that clearo ASAP and either wait for the cotton coils to come out or switch to the subtank if you wish to stick to clearomizers. I believe the delta tank also uses some kind of ceramic fiber, which explains why these tanks can withstand much higher power as opposed to the coils built with cotton.
     
  5. Warhawk-AVG

    Warhawk-AVG Silver Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    Messages:
    619
    Ever have heated juice hit the back of your throat if/when a coil starts gurgling?

    Feels like glass shards
     
    all_in_ashes and 2BZ4THOT like this.
  6. Whiskey

    Whiskey Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    51,490
    I want to see the pictures of this as well, I sometimes use the Aspire coils, and I got them quite a while ago and bet they are these older ones. I will not use them until I know they are safe or I may pitch them.
     
    VapedCrusader likes this.
  7. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    Yeah, since this is very important I'd like to see pics too....
     
    VapedCrusader likes this.
  8. Ngkon

    Ngkon Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2014
    Messages:
    208
    Let's see some pictures. Any chance it's a piece of juice gunk off the vertical coil that shot into your throat? My wife uses the BVC coils and the center of the coil gets some awful gunk, probably from the sweet juices she likes.
     
  9. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    Others are asking for pics too and the OP says "Later".... hopefully its taking so long because the pics are super descriptive and informative and not some black Tar ball on the tip of a finger.....
     
  10. Panther1911

    Panther1911 Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Messages:
    415
    I hear that the Eleaf MELO coils work in the Atlantis....they are organic cotton
     
  11. Wulfy27

    Wulfy27 VU Donator New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    41
    Panther1911 likes this.
  12. Panther1911

    Panther1911 Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Messages:
    415
    2BZ4THOT likes this.
  13. Bobx

    Bobx Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    419
    Don't pitch them,,,,,,,,,,Rebuild them with cotton.
     
    Whiskey likes this.
  14. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    I'm not gonna beg you for pics dude but you did say Yesterday, "I'll try to get pictures on here later" and this could affect a lot of peoples health....I noticed they're asking for pics @ other forums too ? There are lots of extremely knowledgeable people here who, With decent pics, Could help decipher what happened. It could potentially save someone a lot of grief, So, with that said, at least Try as you said you would...
     
  15. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    [​IMG]OP posted this elsewhere.... What is this??[​IMG]
     
  16. supermarket

    supermarket New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2014
    Messages:
    90
    Yep, those are my pics. Sorry it took so long guys, working + children :/

    Thanks to the above poster for beating me to it.


    edit: Adding the following which I wrote on the other forum:

    "
    Above are the best pictures I could manage. The first picture shows the biggest particle that was sitting in the drip tip. It feels like silica/gelatin.

    The second picture illustrates the complete MUSH that the wicking material was, directly underneath the mesh that BECAME UNSEATED ON ITS OWN.


    Keep in mind this was a BRAND NEW coil. I was vaping at LOW wattage (compared to what the Atlantis is designed for). That means that there is a manufacturing error/defect here. It shouldn't surprise anyone that Aspire has ALREADY replaced their coils now. They no longer use the same wicking material, instead they new use COTTON."
     
  17. Bobx

    Bobx Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    419
    First how you feeling now??

    Second looking at those pic's, and it being a new coil, that looks like extra material left behind during manufacturing. I can't see new wicking material falling apart that fast. You have to keep in mind that these things are not made by had, but are made by machine. Machines can't see if there is anything extra flying around in the process. Shit can happen in manufacturing.
    Now don't get me wrong I am not trying to defend them!! But it would be nice if you took it apart and see if was actually that the wicking material actually fell apart. A hunk that big would actually be noticeable if in fact it did break off.
     
  18. KKen

    KKen Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    I cant seem to see the pic, and trying the direct link to it doesn't seem to work for me, maybe b/c I'm perma-banned from ECF so I cant log on to see attached pics lol

    Anyway, whether the gunk was from the wick or machine error, I think the important point is that someone got something lodged in their throat as a direct result of using these clearomizers. Even if the chunks do in fact turn out to be parts of the ceramic wick, or not, I would still be more concerned about the microscopic stuff that you don't notice being sucked in every time you draw on these things.
     
  19. Whiskey

    Whiskey Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    51,490
    I can't see the pictures either, what's up with that??
     
    lalaloopsie likes this.
  20. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    ecf1.jpg ecf2.jpg
     
    Whiskey likes this.
  21. Whiskey

    Whiskey Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    51,490
    The pictures are not good enough to tell what it is....
     
    2BZ4THOT likes this.
  22. ej1024

    ej1024 VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2014
    Messages:
    23,213
    Well that sucks, I never like the aspire anyways!! But dude go see a doctor!!!
    BIGBOYVAPER
     
    cherrycakes and KKen like this.
  23. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    Yeah I know... I like nice sharp pics that clearly show the details. I just reposted these from the OP's thread at another forum...
     
    Whiskey likes this.
  24. Bobx

    Bobx Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    419
    Yea I just came from that "OTHER" forum and I have read the whole thread. The OP is not a happy camper because of all the nay sayers over there were jumping all over him. He stopped posting in that thread. And I don't think he will post back here anytime soon on this topic at least. Frankly I don't blame him!! Post a warning and get belittled like you were some kind of stupid newbe?? Has to make you think twice:(
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2015
    KKen likes this.
  25. bondo

    bondo Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2015
    Messages:
    946
    Why is it that fan boys can't realize that hardly any of these are handmade and that there will be imperfections along the way?
    There's no need to belittle anyone when all they are trying to do is point our a potentially dangerous flaw.
    I haven't read the thread in question nor am I a member of that forum but I lurked for a few weeks and I have seen how they treat people that have a problem with their favorite product. A few of them act as if they have stock in the company (I'm sure a few do) and if you say something negative then YOU'RE the problem.

    @OP, hope you feel better
     
    KKen likes this.
  26. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    I think a lot of the "Thread drama" over there came {Just like one of their Mods said} From the OP waiting 2 days to get a pic up....then after waiting that long folks were a little let down with the two pics that were finally posted..... But whatever,shit happens..My Atlantis is semi retired until I get some cotton heads. I think it mutes the flavor to bad... Anyone actually tried the Cotton ones yet?
     
    Bobx likes this.
  27. trlrtrash13

    trlrtrash13 Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2015
    Messages:
    456
    I think people might get a little upset over the hype surrounding the Atlantis coils. They are wrapped the same way the Nautilus coils were which people used forever and I never heard any warnings about. Now all of the sudden with the Atlantis, it's the apocalypse all of a sudden.

    Now, as per this particular instance, I can't tell what it is either, but I probably wouldn't put that back in the tank. lol
     
    Time likes this.
  28. KKen

    KKen Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    People weren't drawing on the Nautilus like they are doing with the Atlantis. I wouldn't say its the apocalypse, but think its important to offer a word of caution to anyone thinking that these are just as safe as anything else out there. If you understand the potential hazards, and are fine with it, no problem then.
     
  29. sub4me

    sub4me New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2015
    Messages:
    90
    I think Super did the right thing, he warned others of a possible danger, most on ecf treated him bad and played the denial and prove it game, idiots.

    There where however some very interesting statements made by some members. Here's some quotes below.

    This forum (ECF) is getting ridiculous for attacking people who report problems no matter what piece of hardware super has been an active member long enough that he deserves some credibility and for those making insinuations if you don't like reading bad things don't come onto forums. Its one of the reasons I dont give this forum (ECF) address to any people anymore just not worth it when there are better forums out there for new vapers.

    I couldn't agree more. This is exactly why after almost 6 months on ECF, I haven't started a thread...whether it be about sharing an experience with vaping, or asking a question.

    I'm inclined to agree with both of you. I just do a lot or reading and try to keep my trap shut.

     
  30. WARCHOP37

    WARCHOP37 Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2014
    Messages:
    305
    With regard to the picture, I had the exact same thing happen to me... I noticed a tighter pull, so I took a super hard drag and *POP*, a similar looking piece of mystery material ended up in my mouth! I would have taken pictures of it, but as it happened when I was driving, i lost it in the fray. Now I can't attest to having any throat issues or what not as others have mentioned (all things considered I really liked my Atlantis until my Subtank Mini came along), but I will say that having that little mystery nugget end up in my mouth did have me reconsidering using it.
     
  31. sub4me

    sub4me New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2015
    Messages:
    90
    I think its fair to say consumer safety or quality products aren't a priority for these overseas companies making vaper products.
     
  32. sub4me

    sub4me New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2015
    Messages:
    90
    With no regulation or rules in place there's no telling what quality liquid or equipment people are being sold. Vaping is a complete gamble and is buyer beware in every aspect.
     
    KKen and trlrtrash13 like this.
  33. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    If your worried about it being a "Complete Gamble" then do what many of us have done...Mix your own juice, Build your own coils and wick your own devices. I don't need Big Government telling me how to vape...
     
    Agorizer, OBDave and Panther1911 like this.
  34. sub4me

    sub4me New Member

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2015
    Messages:
    90
    I think most of us don't really want it however I believe some oversite is inevitable.
     
  35. trlrtrash13

    trlrtrash13 Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2015
    Messages:
    456
    I don't know if they are or are not as safe as anything else out there. I also never used a Nautilus and can't really speak for how people used them. I do know of plenty of people who used ceramic wicks in genesis atomizers and really liked them, but I also know of others who tried it and hated them.

    My point is to the larger issue. Anything bad that happens with an Atlantis now is the result of the Atlantis wicking. A little glob of something ends up in your mouth? You get a sore throat? A rash on your anus? Your power steering goes out? It's that damned ceramic in the Aspire Atlantis. Mind you, I don't even use the things as to my taste the SubTank is better. It's just an observation, not a criticism. The Atlantis heads as currently configured aren't long for the vaping world, but I think there might be a more reasonable explanation for a lot of the things that happen.

    Perhaps people didn't draw as hard on the Nautilus, I don't know, but I do know they didn't vape that low in ohms on the Nautilus stock coils because they didn't make them that low. So perhaps they are using the same level of nicotine and at .5 ohms that is hurting their throat. Or maybe they had a slight sensitivity to pg that they didn't notice as much under normal vaping that is aggravated by the higher intensity of the sub ohm vape. And of course, it is possible that it is indeed the coils themselves. As with a lot of things in vaping, we don't really know, ut there are a few things in vaping that wear a bad label, warranted or not, and the Atlantis heads seem to have become the diacetyl of the coil world. They might not have hurt one consumer, who knows, but perception becomes reality and here we go. I wouldn't discourage anyone from reporting their negative experiences. I for damn sure am going to report any that I have.
     
    OBDave likes this.
  36. KKen

    KKen Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Personally, I will always err on the side of caution and will usually give the benefit of the doubt to an end user complaining about a possible issue or problem. Unfortunately, there are always dedicated fanboys that will try to discredit you, or basically tell you to fuck off and learn how to vape correctly, which is fine too, that's just the nature of forums, but the info is there and available which you can follow up on, or not ;)
     
    trlrtrash13 likes this.
  37. TasteMyToast

    TasteMyToast Bronze Contributor Member For 2 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2015
    Messages:
    269
    I had a similar experience with my Atlantis. This might sound stupid, but did you have it in your pocket? The tube on the Atlantis is so big that crap can fall down into it. I got a big nasty burnt glob of shit in my mouth, and upon further examination, realized it was a piece of pocket lint soaked in juice.
     
    2BZ4THOT likes this.
  38. trlrtrash13

    trlrtrash13 Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2015
    Messages:
    456
    I took a drag off of my SubTank a minute ago and felt something go in my mouth. Here it is.

    [​IMG]

    It's just built up gunk from off the coil. Probably time for a new head in there, huh? Lol.
     
  39. KKen

    KKen Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205

    That looks like small fragments from a meteorite :D
     
    VapedCrusader and trlrtrash13 like this.
  40. Theris

    Theris

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    1
    I've been using the Atlantis for a couple months now, and experienced this a couple times, especially after switching to my box mod, same voltage as OP. Today got a couple HUGE chunks lodged in my throat around lunch time. I coughed one out, it was a similar color to a sugar coated advil tablet. Pinkish beige. I put a new coil in, and now it's starting to do it again. I didn't know cotton coils are available, but I will definitely be looking into them.
     
  41. anendeloflorien

    anendeloflorien Silver Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2015
    Messages:
    1,140
    I just broke down a bunch of my subtank coils and one of the 1.2 ohm ones that I used for a long ass time was completely coated in that stuff. Looks like straight up carbon buildup.
     
  42. 2BZ4THOT

    2BZ4THOT Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2015
    Messages:
    385
    Bingo
     
  43. Number3124

    Number3124 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Messages:
    574
    And people wonder why I only use drippers...
     
  44. trlrtrash13

    trlrtrash13 Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2015
    Messages:
    456
    Drippers do it too. It's more of a juice thing. I was vaping a high vg NET in it.
     
  45. Number3124

    Number3124 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Messages:
    574
    I meant the flying pieces of wick.
     
  46. Roguexx

    Roguexx Silver Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    1,047
    I have an Atlantis and I do notice that the wide tip. Collects anything it can find. Pocket or work belt always having to clean it out. Will have to look into the melo coils though
     
  47. trlrtrash13

    trlrtrash13 Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2015
    Messages:
    456
    Oh, that. Yeah, I haven't had any of that with mine. Just the gunk episode. But I usually use a dripper myself so I've got a lot less vaping hours on mine than a lot of folks do.
     
  48. cherrycakes

    cherrycakes Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    3,662
    I can't see these?
     
  49. Number3124

    Number3124 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Messages:
    574
    Doesn't hurt that I can't go more than a week without getting bored with my builds.
     
  50. FlavoVape

    FlavoVape Bronze Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    153
    Happened to me twice. I think I let the coil go too long...I was vaping a dark chocolate juice. First time was in the car and I couldn't stop coughing. The second time is when the rotation came back around to that flavor I took a pull and got gunk in my mouth like pictured above. Each time I refill my 5ml tank I will be checking the condition of the coil. Another flavor was still giving good flavor and vapor but the wick looked black...I replaced that as well. Thank you to the OP for reporting this. The second time the coil hit my teeth and tongue and made a horrible stain. I had to brush my teeth to remove it. Now when I pull on the head I take a small pull first. I vape mine at 25w
     

Share This Page

Close This Message