What is the max number of flavors that should be mixed in one juice?

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  1. rturner76

    rturner76 New Member

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    I did a mix with some flavors that seemed to go together but I kept adding more until I got this kind of :flavor blob" that had no distinctive flavor. Usually you can taste the vanilla or caramel or whatever
     
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    inspects Squonkamaniac Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    There is no cardinal rule with flavor....whatever floats the boat is what's good for you....:)
     
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    Lannie Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I have some really good recipes that use only two or three flavors, and some really great ones that have ten or eleven flavors. I think I have one with twelve. It depends on the flavors and how they work with each other. I build mine by combing simpler recipes, and if they're good, I work out a new combination recipe to replicate it. Then later I might combine that one with another one and hit upon another great combination. That's how some of mine end up with so many flavors, but they all accent and complement each other well. My best ones are the ones that have more flavors. To save time, once I decide one's a keeper, I'll mix up all those flavors into one bottle as a "flavor shot" type thing, and then all I need to do is measure out the correct amount for each new bottle of juice I make. It saves a LOT of time.
     
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    My main problem is when I'm mixing a flavor, different flavors seem to have different potencies. I went to mix someNona cake with honey and mixed nuts, I added some vanilla all in large amounts. I added just a minuscule amount of espresso and all I could taste was espresso and some kind of syrupy mess.but espresso is what filled up my palate and drown own everything else. What I could taste of the other stuff all blended into a kind of like I say a light syrup taste with no distinct flavors like I couldn't taste cake at all or nuts. I think maybe the vanilla muted everything. I added all the flavors in equal parts except the espresso was just barely a couple drops. It was all the same brand concentrates so I had assumed they would all be the same strength.

    So do I try each flavor solo to find out how much is the right amount to use before I do a mix? That would seem to be not exactly a waste but kind of some boring juices because I like the more complex flavor profiles.
     
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    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Yes I agree that it is necessary to understand each flavor before mixing them. so you can decide which will work together and how strong to make them in the mix.
    Keep good notes.
     
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    Sadly you will have to spend quite some time experiencing the flavors as single, and then in mixes as well, as well on how they change during steeps.
    In my opinion its more a waste of flavors and extreme frustration, if you just mix from scratch without knowing anything about that flavor. Because just like you see at your own example, the espresso is overpowering, you don't know how to fix it, besides the obvious of reducing that said flavor...maybe.

    and while we can tell you what percentages should be used, you still might find it very overwhelming and frustrating.

    Did you by the way steep your juice? Most creams, cakes and custards need a while too come out. Coffees or some overly potent profiles might settle etc.
     
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    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Yep coming up with original recipes worth vaping takes a lot of time and effort.

    But works out best for me since most recipes I find mix ant WAY too high flavoring percentages for me.
    And I have bad reactions to ingredients in many flavorings.
    So that many of the flavorings specified in a recipe are ones on my no list.
     
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    SteveS45 Diamond Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    This is the reason I make a standalone of all my flavors before I ever combine them. Once I have perfected the standalone then I mix those together to see how much of each is required for what I am trying to create. Also I usually mix them in a 2ML tank so not a large amount of waste.
     
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    Lannie Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I must confess - I cheat a little. I read reviews on any flavor I'm unfamiliar with, to get a feel for how other people like it, and lots of times, they'll say how much they used in a mix. It gives me a little headstart that way. That's how I found out how to love TFA's caramel cappuccino. ;) Someone's review said to use ONE DROP per 10ml of finished juice. All the other people who said it resembled skunk spray were presumably using it in percentages (3%, 5%, etc.) which would be WAY too much for that flavor. So I plucked up my courage and ordered a small bottle of caramel cappuccino, used it at the one drop per 10ml ratio, and it's wonderful.

    So read reviews on the flavor sites if they have them (Bull City does), do a search for that flavor in the DIY sections to see if there are any discussions about the particular flavor you're considering, and in general try to learn as much from other people's trials and tribulations before you commit your own. :) If you can't find any information on a flavor, ask here. SOMEONE will have experience with it, no doubt. You can save a lot of headaches that way, and really, most people are happy to share their experiences with flavors. We all want you to succeed!

    I have very few recipes that use ingredients in equal amounts, for instance. I do love Nonna's Cake, and I use that one a lot, usually at 4%. I've never used honey so I can't comment on that flavor, but any nut I might add would be in the .5 to 1% range. I wouldn't sully Nonna's Cake with espresso at all. I use espresso (by FA) at 1% to boost the coffee flavor in my cappuccino juices. Nonna's Cake is VERY good with cream and custard flavors, or with a very light touch of fruit. I still get that wonderful flavor of angel food cake but the custard and cream flavors add lusciousness and depth to the overall flavor, and sometimes a touch of fruit brightens it up. If I wanted some coffee with that lovely cake, I'd have that in a second tank and take turns vaping them. :p

    If you really want a coffee flavor added to your cake flavor, try a cappuccino-type flavor, but read the reviews first! LOL! I just got some Capella's cappuccino which is very nice at 3% (strong enough for me, a true coffee-holic), but of course I still soften it with other cream flavors. And the TFA version is way stronger. I used to use the Flavour Art cappuccino, but it was almost too soft for me - I found I was having to use it at 10% and it's too expensive to use that much of, so I went looking for alternatives. I think I can safely say I like the Capella's cappuccino better than the Flavour Art, it's cheaper, and I don't have to use nearly as much.

    Taste is subjective so what works for me might not work for you, but if you read enough opinions, you can sift through and get a better idea of how a certain flavor might taste, and how it might work with other flavors. So ask away, we're here to help! :D
     
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    Letitia9 Nano Junkie VU Donator Gold Contributor

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    Purlium caramel coffee with sweet milk is a good stand alone and makes for good base and plays well with other brands flavors in mixes.
     
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    Lannie Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I was gonna say I'd like to try that one (love me a good coffee vape!), but BCF and WL don't seem to carry that brand. That's the only two places I can safely order from (that don't have "vape" or "e-cig" or somesuch in the name...).

    (Sorry, rturner, don't mean to hijack your thread!)
     
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    Letitia9 Nano Junkie VU Donator Gold Contributor

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    Purlium flavors can be found on Nicotine River. I've ordered from them several times and trust the site. Great brand for flavors that have very little if any fade. Their fruits oddly needs a longer steep, 3-4 weeks. Order fulfillment is a bit slow right now, they are moving into a new warehouse but have promised a good sale when they finish moving. Worth subscribing to the newsletter.
     
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    pulsevape Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    there are no rules...whatever works.
     
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