Why??

[Smoky Blue]

Something rather interesting..

Who has vaped anything "big tobacco" type products? I think I have tried them all, and it so reminds me of that nasty crap that was introduced with early 2006 style start ups... the juice was just such a turn off.. bad after tastes, and they mostly tasted the same.. nasty.. (They still do, to me)...

Now my surprise.. recently a friend asked me about shisha.. (bout a month ago).. he is a former shisha vaper, and the juices that are out, just wasn't cutting it for him. I got to thinking and reading, and looking at how it was made.. We have a local tobacco shop here, and I remembered, they have the hookas etc.. so I took a trip over there and explored the shop.. Sure enough.. they has the shisha, the coals, the hookas.. but.. they also carry the disposables. I picked one up, thinking well here goes another 10.00 down the drain.. but it was his favorite flavor and he wanted me to turn it into juice.. This is do-able.. btw..

but I digress.. the shisha disposables are not bad at all (despite being 0mg of nic) it was really a change! It wasn't nasty.. My question is.. Why does big tobacco still use outdated methods for something so vile and nasty, when there are good people out there, that can and do make excellent juice?

I think I have faced it.. If big t.. could ever produce something that works, tastes decent.. I could go buy from them.. as it stands.. they will never see me buying any name brand big tobacco e cig. What a shame, since they have more of a power to help than turn away people..

Is it really about the money, or deaths?

 

[M5amhan]

ill never support big tobacco again as they are in bed with government and have never had anyone's best interest in mind.. even if their juice is top of the line and cheaper than everyone else's, ill never do it. fuck them i hope they end up as a stain in history due to the rising success of thousands of small business owners taking their place

 

[Ace]

Comic book movies made by comic book fans are 109Xs better than ones made by non fans. You never get a tattoo from someone who has no tattoos. I'm sure there's other examples but...

 

[UncleRJ]

BT has had their time in the sun.

But they sure as heck are going to try and share in our time in the sun.

But I just don't think that their corporate culture is going to get it right or be accepted in our little part of the world.

 

[RichS]

big tobacco has taken to many people that I have known and loved, they'll never get a dime from me again. If some way they monopolize the industry I will stop vaping.

 

[glassgrl]

I won't ever try a BT e-cig. They don't get anymore of my money and I don't trust them. The consensus is that cigarettes are more addictive now than they were and I'm fairly certain there are many more chemicals than there used to be. What would they do to uphold that lovely business practice of enticing and keeping people addicted to their e-cig product?
Besides, their hands might be tied from that whole tobacco and menthol only thing. Bwahahaha. Not a lot of addiction potential with great flavors but 0mg right?

 

[Smoky Blue]

If they could get out of bed with the gov..
If they stopped making us all addicts and killing us all off..
If they could make decent juice..

Then would you?

yeah yeah.. if if's and but's were cherries and nuts, we'd all have a good time..

 

[buffaloguy]

Would I? Nope.

They cant make anything half as good as I can make at home for 1/10th the cost they would charge me. For that $10 you spent on a disposable I could vape a better juice tailored to my exact tastes for nearly a month.

Im sure many people would buy their products but most diy folks have no need of their foul ways. We are in the drivers seat now. Fda, no fda, doesnt matter. I can vape till my last day and no one can stop me. Completely freeand.self sufficient vaping. All I need is VG, flavoring, and parts. Im down to 8mg now so I could likely do without nicotine as well.

 

[m3rma1d]

No way BT is gonna make decent vape stuff. They want people to try it, say "Well that sucks!" and go right back to their real cigarettes.

 

[kabalm18]

I can only imagine how much shit BT would/do add to their juice. Instead of 4 ingredients it would be thousands....no thanks. And I doubt they will ever be able to beat the price it costs me to make my own

 

[Hobby Kid]

@Smoky Blue what were you asking .. was it *how come big t don't make decent reusable vapourisers to go with their now improved juice?

I went into a head shop today btw. Man the gear manufacturers make for puff heads is smart. Some real good looking techno porn

 

[UncleRJ]

I am a bit foggy on the details but I think I heard that Johnson Creek signed a deal with on of the BT companies to make liquids for them.

 

[Hobby Kid]

I am a bit foggy on the details but I think I heard that Johnson Creek signed a deal with on of the BT companies to make liquids for them.

Ya, I didn't think bt would bother themselves to make juice. But I bet they were diligent to ensue extra unneeded additive were in there. Just guessing. But it follows their tradition

 

[buffaloguy]

ewww, johnson creek... imo it outta be called johnson swamp. Ive had a few of their juices and just.... no.

 

[Smoky Blue]

@Smoky Blue what were you asking .. was it *how come big t don't make decent reusable vapourisers to go with their now improved juice?

I went into a head shop today btw. Man the gear manufacturers make for puff heads is smart. Some real good looking techno porn

no no!! it's how come their juice tastes like crap.. not to mention the disposable hooka pen I got was a lot nicer than anything I have seen with big tobacco.and it tasted better too. none of that nasty taste.

ewww, johnson creek... imo it outta be called johnson swamp. Ive had a few of their juices and just.... no.

I agree!