I see you use the word 'sick' and 'ill' am I wrong for thinking there's a link between the two and that there's inconsistency in our labeling?
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I'm a bit more twisted when it comes to animal abuse then most.
Slowly break every bone in their body then chain them to a tree with no food and water. See how well they like it. Once they start begging go ahead and give them the one-off
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I work in mental health and part of my job is going into prisons and counseling people...you are correct, some can be rehabilitated....but many cannot. It all depends on what THEY want. Can lead a horse to water....
I agree, my point is simply that why do we treat some fucked up people with a ton of quite honestly mandatory love and care, while other fucked up people with thoughts of torture and cruelty? While I agree pedophiles and people who torture animals are among the worst of society and easily worth getting rid of, do we need to go beyond that and lower ourselves to the point of inhumane treatment?
Yup, crazy thing is it's cheaper to just take care of those unable to be rehabilitated than to get rid of them! Costs millions to kill someone legally! Nuts!
I have some mentally ill family members who went through the involuntary shock treatments, eugenics and lobotomies of the 50's and 60's of the state run systems at the time.
They were ill but nothing that should have resulted in that in any way shape or form.
They did not plan, kidnap, bin, torture nor kill and dump anyone or anything.
BIG difference when you get your jollies from killing shit and seeing it in pain... those fuckers are broken.
What he said.
Shit's fucked up, but to get back to my point, do we really want to torture them or do we fantasize about it? Could "you" really (ok, maybe you! I love you btw for being the brutally honest sick mother fucker you are!) come out of that type of situation mentally intact?
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Sadly.. we have plenty of people who would kill these crazy fucks for free.... maybe that makes them crazy fucks to huh?
Broken is a massive understatement. They need to BE broken.
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As a crazy fuck myself, yeah, it would. But, I know if I broke that line and tortured someone, well, fuck it, I'm gonna go punisher style on all the crazy fucks till someone takes me down, that or be completely broken and take myself out.
Completely situational. Really, especially at a personal level.
Not gunna sugar coat this.
It is not the kneecapping that bothers me it is the crunchy sound that it makes when you do it.
You think you could smash a guy's kneecaps with blood spurting out onto you, sit there and revel in their pain while they beg for their life and to let them go, and then come out of it just as you are? I can't help but think that no matter what they did that type of situation would change someone drastically.
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I've talked with some guys in pistol classes that have had to use their weapon in self defence. It fucks a person up to have to take a life. No matter what the reason.
I believe that if a (normal, whatever that is) person would engage in the torture of a human it would eat away at them until they killed themselfs.
As for going punisher. I do believe in the days of cops driving around in armored personal carriers one wouldn't last to long
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Yup, though I think I'd have long enough to take out at least a few that I believe deserve it, including this guy who's been developing a 17 thousand dollar court case against my cousin for egging his house (though my cousins a fucking idiot for egging the house of a personal loss lawyer).I've talked with some guys in pistol classes that have had to use their weapon in self defence. It fucks a person up to have to take a life. No matter what the reason.
I believe that if a (normal, whatever that is) person would engage in the torture of a human it would eat away at them until they killed themselfs.
As for going punisher. I do believe in the days of cops driving around in armored personal carriers one wouldn't last to long
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Then only people who can't be fixed are pedos and rapist. All others can be worked with. The ones who tortue animals and women and whatnot. Should be tortured. The ones who steal should have a hand removed. Those who prey upon the weak should become prey.
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No blood.
phone books and rubber hoses make a great tude adjuster also. they become tools of enlightenment about their error of their ways.
So eye for an eye?Then only people who can't be fixed are pedos and rapist. All others can be worked with. The ones who tortue animals and women and whatnot. Should be tortured. The ones who steal should have a hand removed. Those who prey upon the weak should become prey.
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Never said something wouldn't change me or have an impact on me. I'm really not a violent person, but if I were in a position that that's what it came to to protect my own life or a loved one, I'd take that chance.
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No sharia shit.
But I think we would snap to as a society if corporal punishment was brought back.
I completely agree there, but for someone doing that to strangers or animals you don't know. The same?
So you'd be up for raping some random rapist as a sense of duty? Or beating some abusive person? or skinning someone who skins animals as a sick and twisted hobby?
You know how many times I got my ass paddled in school?!!! That's the problem with a lot of these younger generations, no respect! I grew up having respect or got my butt beet red
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You have a moral question there. One person will say "not my people not my problem." Me. I won't let anyone or animal be abused around me. Ever. Regardless of what I have to do to stop it.
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hypothetical for most.
I guess it just depends on the person.
I fully agree there, I was someone who took beatings, I mean it got to the point that it was a 2X4 across the backside because the belt no longer did the trick. A little pain is good, permanent damage is where it becomes an issue.
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Louisville metro scanner channel just now "caller advised he's not on drugs hes just crazy" lmfao.
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Going to go with the actual starship trooper view on it.
Public flogging or the long drop short stop solution.
I'd like to think I would, but I question that in myself. For animals, quite honestly, very unlikely, am I willing to deal with the legal ramifications, no not likely. For a random human being, I'd really hope so, I've never been put in that situation, but again, I don't know, and situations can be quite grey. Is a person who's been mentally abused lashing out in one strike of anger in public hitting their spouse to be condemned? How do we know the full story? Those thoughts would at the very least make me hesitate, of course if I see someone pummeling someone I'll jump in, but it's all quite grey to me.
Yes I agree. I suffered horrible abuse at home at the hands of my drug addicted father....but, that's another story. But one thing I can say I did grow up with respect for my elders and laws.
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I can see me going apeshit if seeing harm to an animal, or child, hell yes. You don't mess with kids or animals! If I ran across a situation where some random person is being attacked I would hope I'd do something to help. Again, it's situational. Now if I run across some 8 foot 12 person attacking someone, sure I'm gonna call for help.
I got stabbed breaking up a pimp beating his ho.
Took forever for it to heal, fucking nail file in the thigh that was aimed for my back bent in the bone.
I just want to say quickly, I'm very much enjoying this conversation, I hope no one's taking this as anything but just a discussion. I just often see what I can't help but feel is overexaggerated feeling of violence and I question it. I don't feel that we should wish torture on people if we ourselves aren't willing to commit to it. It just doesn't seem right "they should be tortured, but not by me" ehh, something's wrong. And, people that say they are willing, well are you really?
Anyways, just wanted to say that I'm enjoying this dialogue.
Anyways, just wanted to say that I'm enjoying this dialogue.
That's the kind of stuff I wish I could say I would do, but honestly I don't know. I commend you for it, like I said I love your crazy ass in a completely non sexual but more of a rolemodel way.
Guy I knew in highschool and a friend of mine who were bouncers at a bar around here, the one guy I knew was killed, buddy hospitalized. Navy/Marine fight, navy guy pulled a knife while they were breaking up the fight, stabbed the one guy in the neck, and my buddy got a few slashes to the arms and one in the shoulder. Shit can get crazy.
I am somewhat of an expert on this. A nurse said here is something to relax you and 5 seconds later I'm gone. then surgery on my arm. Take these monsters give them what they gave me, but when there out put tape over their nose & mouth & bingo! no more monster. Problem solved.I'm a bit more twisted when it comes to animal abuse then most.
Slowly break every bone in their body then chain them to a tree with no food and water. See how well they like it. Once they start begging go ahead and give them the one-off
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I understand what you mean by the logic "they should be tortured, but not by me" but look at it this way....I like to eat venison but I cannot shoot a deer or any animal or harm one in any way. I love to eat meat but I would be screwed if I had to hunt for it. I know, bad analogy, but it makes sense to me.
Last time I bounced was a freelance. the way the company and bar ended the night got stupid tense at the end.
Three close friends who were bouncing were attacked by a drug crazed od with a blade and cut to ribbons in the bathroom. no one died but it sure as fuck was not worth the 15 bucks an hour we were getting.
The entire security crew walked off after that.
I would much rather face a drunken fuckmo popping shots at me while running than a determined scumbag with a blade.
A captive bolt gun to the dome. No country for old man style.I am somewhat of an expert on this. A nurse said here is something to relax you and 5 seconds later I'm gone. then surgery on my arm. Take these monsters give them what they gave me, but when there out put tape over their nose & mouth & bingo! no more monster. Problem solved.
To continue the analogy, do you feel they should be fought on a fair playing field or shot from a distance while they're essentially defenseless?
And it's not a bad analogy, though do you think you have the right to demand venison, or rather that you would like venison but that you haven't earned the right to demand it or expect it? So is it "they should be" or "i would like them to be"?
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There was a custom knife maker when I was really young that used parking garage surveillance video of a would be mugger, who was slashed with one of his (the knife makers) blades, as a guarantee his blades are awsome.
The defender slashed at the guy twice and cut THREW his rib bones and into vitals with both swings. Needless to say the mugger didn't get but about 5-7 yards away before succumbing to his wounds.
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I still wanna face off with a boar old school with a spear.
Since I can't stalk deer for shit or shoot a bow they get a free pass.
Now vermin and coyotes... whole other story, same with big cats in populated areas.
Wolf among sheep. The puppy targeted the wrong mofo.
Old coach of mine has a bowed leg with a steel rod through it because he broke it while chasing down a boar with a knife because it killed one of his dogs while he was hunting. Pretty badass in my book.
Damn it's 3:30am and you want me to think...AND I am blonde?! LOLOLOL I am a bleeding heart when it comes to animals and I have to admit I do get a chuckle out of a deer beating the snot out of a hunter on youtube....but I also like to eat...as long as they are on my plate I would rather not think about how it got there sometimes lol
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