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Banana Nut Bread VS Banana Cream which one is the best? can some one describe both flavors if they have tried them
 

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I haven't tried the banana cream, but I can tell you that a significant component of the banana nut bread is acetyl pyrazine -- for the nuttiness, and somewhat for the "bready"-ness. Some folks can't abide AP, so would find that flavor unpleasant because of it.

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I haven't tried the banana cream, but I can tell you that a significant component of the banana nut bread is acetyl pyrazine -- for the nuttiness, and somewhat for the "bready"-ness. Some folks can't abide AP, so would find that flavor unpleasant because of it.

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I like sweet creamy flavors nut bread is creamy flavor?
And acetyl i can pop ur lungs?


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What Andria said regarding Banana Nut Bread and Banana Cream reminds me of a mix with TFA Banana Ripe and TFA Bavarian Cream with a little less vanilla...if that makes any sense.

I have a use both together with Banana Ripe and Flavourart Fresh Cream. Makes a nice, ripe banana cream with nuttiness vape:)
 

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I like sweet creamy flavors nut bread is creamy flavor?
And acetyl i can pop ur lungs?


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No, as far as I know, there's nothing dangerous about acetyl pyrazine, just some people find it unpleasant. I wouldn't say banana nut bread is creamy, but it's very realistically banana nut bread. One of the very few flavors I've tried that a) actually taste like the thing they're meant to taste like, and b) don't need anything else in the mix -- though sometimes I might add 1% sweetener, just 'cuz I have a sweet tooth.

On the other hand, Banana Cream does contain acetoin, one of the diketones, which is why I haven't tried it. It's not the worst one, and there isn't much, so I'm sure some people don't care that it contains that, but for my own reasons, I choose to avoid any diketones that I know about.

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What Andria said regarding Banana Nut Bread and Banana Cream reminds me of a mix with TFA Banana Ripe and TFA Bavarian Cream with a little less vanilla...if that makes any sense.

I have a use both together with Banana Ripe and Flavourart Fresh Cream. Makes a nice, ripe banana cream with nuttiness vape:)


Sir i am from Pakistan its hard to import different types of flavours thats why i am
Asking which one is the best? And can work as a standalone flavor


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I like sweet creamy flavors nut bread is creamy flavor?
And acetyl i can pop ur lungs?


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Not creamy unless you add a cream to it. It's pretty much as Andria described; banana with nuts and a baked bread flavour.

I don't think there's any health related issues with AP but someone with a better understanding might come along and clear that up.
 

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Sir i am from Pakistan its hard to import different types of flavours thats why i am
Asking which one is the best? And can work as a standalone flavor


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Ah, then I would probably go with the Banana Nut bread as a standalone. The Banana Cream is best when mixed with something else;)
 

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No, as far as I know, there's nothing dangerous about acetyl pyrazine, just some people find it unpleasant. I wouldn't say banana nut bread is creamy, but it's very realistically banana nut bread. One of the very few flavors I've tried that a) actually taste like the thing they're meant to taste like, and b) don't need anything else in the mix -- though sometimes I might add 1% sweetener, just 'cuz I have a sweet tooth.

On the other hand, Banana Cream does contain acetoin, one of the diketones, which is why I haven't tried it. It's not the worst one, and there isn't much, so I'm sure some people don't care that it contains that, but for my own reasons, I choose to avoid any diketones that I know about.

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TFA's DX Banana Cream is actually very good. I prefer it to the regular and it doesn't have the nasty's.
 

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Ah, then I would probably go with the Banana Nut bread as a standalone. The Banana Cream is best when mixed with something else;)


I guy in Pakistan gave me sample juice of banana cream and i really loved it :(


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No, as far as I know, there's nothing dangerous about acetyl pyrazine, just some people find it unpleasant. I wouldn't say banana nut bread is creamy, but it's very realistically banana nut bread. One of the very few flavors I've tried that a) actually taste like the thing they're meant to taste like, and b) don't need anything else in the mix -- though sometimes I might add 1% sweetener, just 'cuz I have a sweet tooth.

On the other hand, Banana Cream does contain acetoin, one of the diketones, which is why I haven't tried it. It's not the worst one, and there isn't much, so I'm sure some people don't care that it contains that, but for my own reasons, I choose to avoid any diketones that I know about.

Andria

Acetoin the what is that ? Perfumer apprentice flavors are bad for health??


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I guy in Pakistan gave me sample juice of banana cream and i really loved it :(


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Did he use the Banana Cream on it's own?

Taste is subjective and if you like it, that's all that matters.

If you want a banana cream with none of the bad stuff I'd recommend TFA DX Banana Cream:)

I just haven't used it as a standalone favour.
 

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Acetoin the what is that ? Perfumer apprentice flavors are bad for health??


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I think you need to read up on the matter, and not make blanket assumptions like that. The TPA/TFA website shows which flavors contain diketones in any quantity. Whether or not diketones are "bad for health" is very much open to debate at this point; some say yes definitely, some say that's ridiculous. I have my own reasons -- asthma and hypochondria -- for avoiding them. You have to make up your own mind on that matter, but diketones can occur in any brand of flavors; usually the creamy, eggy, pastry-type flavors, but also in some flavors you wouldn't guess had them, particularly organic-based flavors, since diacetyl is a naturally-occuring chemical in many natural foods. You have to research them.

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No, as far as I know, there's nothing dangerous about acetyl pyrazine, just some people find it unpleasant. I wouldn't say banana nut bread is creamy, but it's very realistically banana nut bread. One of the very few flavors I've tried that a) actually taste like the thing they're meant to taste like, and b) don't need anything else in the mix -- though sometimes I might add 1% sweetener, just 'cuz I have a sweet tooth.

On the other hand, Banana Cream does contain acetoin, one of the diketones, which is why I haven't tried it. It's not the worst one, and there isn't much, so I'm sure some people don't care that it contains that, but for my own reasons, I choose to avoid any diketones that I know about.

Andria


How about this one

https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7713-dx-banana-cream.aspx


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I think you need to read up on the matter, and not make blanket assumptions like that. The TPA/TFA website shows which flavors contain diketones in any quantity. Whether or not diketones are "bad for health" is very much open to debate at this point; some say yes definitely, some say that's ridiculous. I have my own reasons -- asthma and hypochondria -- for avoiding them. You have to make up your own mind on that matter, but diketones can occur in any brand of flavors; usually the creamy, eggy, pastry-type flavors, but also in some flavors you wouldn't guess had them, particularly organic-based flavors, since diacetyl is a naturally-occuring chemical in many natural foods. You have to research them.

Andria


I have also asthma problem will research on that thanks anyways


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TFA's DX Banana Cream is actually very good. I prefer it to the regular and it doesn't have the nasty's.

I may need to try that; banana cream isn't one of my favorite flavors, but it could be useful in a lot of recipes, like banana pudding -- yum! :)

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How about this one

https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7713-dx-banana-cream.aspx


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The "DX" means there are no diketones. But there's another TFA flavor which doesn't have the DX, which is also diketone-free: Vanilla Swirl -- it's their Vanilla Custard flavor minus diketones, and it's very good; more vanilla-y than custard-y, but if you add a little DX Bavarian Cream, it brings back some of the custard flavor, without adding diketones.

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Lol dont mix DIY with cooking


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https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7713-dx-banana-cream.aspx

Can you try nd let me know :) how it taste as a stand alone flavor


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I could but as I said, taste is very subjective and what I love may not taste good to you.

I have a very good friend who's family is from Pakistan and I've grown up on his mothers biryani. Obviously it's my favorite and when I've tried the same dish in restaurants or made by other people I'm usually disappointed because in my mind, my friends mothers biryani is the best:)
 

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The "DX" means there are no diketones. But there's another TFA flavor which doesn't have the DX, which is also diketone-free: Vanilla Swirl -- it's their Vanilla Custard flavor minus diketones, and it's very good; more vanilla-y than custard-y, but if you add a little DX Bavarian Cream, it brings back some of the custard flavor, without adding diketones.

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Ohh God i think i am solving maths test


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I could but as I said, taste is very subjective and what I love may not taste good to you.

I have a very good friend who's family is from Pakistan and I've grown up on his mothers biryani. Obviously it's my favorite and when I've tried the same dish in restaurants or made by other people I'm usually disappointed because in my mind, my friends mothers biryani is the best:)


Thats nice to hear with all due respect of ur friend mother i can bet come to pakistan i can bet u wont be disappointed



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I may need to try that; banana cream isn't one of my favorite flavors, but it could be useful in a lot of recipes, like banana pudding -- yum! :)

Andria
That's how I use it too.

I also mix it with my BNB to get a little more umff out o the banana and add a little creaminess:)
 

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TFA banana nut bread is good by itself, tastes just like a banana nut muffin. The banana cream is also good by itself but you can mix it with other things only if you choose to. The DX banana cream does not contain the "bad stuff."
 

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I have also asthma problem will research on that thanks anyways


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Ok, then I'll explain my reasoning, since it might be something for you to consider:

Diketones, particularly diacetyl, *can* *possibly* cause a condition called bronchiolitis obliterans, which is so absolutely destructive of the lungs, the only way of treating it is with a lung transplant. It's a very rare condition, and at this point, it is not really known if the quantities of diketones in vaping could lead to it.

However, the only symptom of it that I've ever heard of is "breathlessness," or shortness of breath. Since I have asthma, I suffer shortness of breath every single day. Because I am also somewhat hypochondriac, if I was vaping diketones, then that breathlessness would make me leap to a probably-faulty conclusion, that I was suffering bronchiolitis obliterans, when it would probably only be a normal asthma attack.

Therefore, in my judgment, it's just better not to go there, not to vape any diketones if I can possibly avoid it. That judgment has nothing whatever to do with any likelihood of actually developing the fatal condition, and everything to do with my own hypochondria.

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I could but as I said, taste is very subjective and what I love may not taste good to you.

I have a very good friend who's family is from Pakistan and I've grown up on his mothers biryani. Obviously it's my favorite and when I've tried the same dish in restaurants or made by other people I'm usually disappointed because in my mind, my friends mothers biryani is the best:)


Between i got ur point but try to understand i have to trust others for now
2 months ago i manage to import fruit circle i did research about it but didnt like it at all


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Thats nice to hear with all due respect of ur friend mother i can bet come to pakistan i can bet u wont be disappointed



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And I'm willing to bet you're right:)
 

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Ok, then I'll explain my reasoning, since it might be something for you to consider:

Diketones, particularly diacetyl, *can* *possibly* cause a condition called bronchiolitis obliterans, which is so absolutely destructive of the lungs, the only way of treating it is with a lung transplant. It's a very rare condition, and at this point, it is not really known if the quantities of diketones in vaping could lead to it.

However, the only symptom of it that I've ever heard of is "breathlessness," or shortness of breath. Since I have asthma, I suffer shortness of breath every single day. Because I am also somewhat hypochondriac, if I was vaping diketones, then that breathlessness would make me leap to a probably-faulty conclusion, that I was suffering bronchiolitis obliterans, when it would probably only be a normal asthma attack.

Therefore, in my judgment, it's just better not to go there, not to vape any diketones if I can possibly avoid it. That judgment has nothing whatever to do with any likelihood of actually developing the fatal condition, and everything to do with my own hypochondria.

Andria

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Between i got ur point but try to understand i have to trust others for now
2 months ago i manage to import fruit circle i did research about it but didnt like it at all


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Well I can say I love it as a flavouring at about 8-10% it would be a nice banana flavoured, creamy standalone;)
 

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TFA banana nut bread is good by itself, tastes just like a banana nut muffin. The banana cream is also good by itself but you can mix it with other things only if you choose to. The DX banana cream does not contain the "bad stuff."


Banana cream and DX banana cream taste same??


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Well I can say I love it as a flavouring at about 8-10% it would be a nice banana flavoured, creamy standalone;)


So Dx banana cream is ur call?


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Banana cream and DX banana cream taste same??


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Only very slightly, and if you've never tasted either, you won't know a difference. The regular, non-DX might taste a little richer, nothing major.
 

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Only very slightly, and if you've never tasted either, you won't know a difference. The regular, non-DX might taste a little richer, nothing major.


I Would love to know any flavors like banana and vanilla which can be use as stand alone flavors


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I like the DX better than the original:)

I Would love to know any flavors like banana and vanilla which can be use as stand alone flavors ??


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Only very slightly, and if you've never tasted either, you won't know a difference. The regular, non-DX might taste a little richer, nothing major.
I know taste is subjective but when I first tried the DX I thought it tasted like bananas with cream rather than cream with bananas (the original).
 

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Inawera lemon cake as a 3% standalone is probably the best lemon pound cake I've ever tasted. I love TFA mocha at 6%, tastes like a Starbucks coffee.
And I actually like TFA vanilla swirl by itself at 6-8%.
 

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Inawera lemon cake as a 3% standalone is probably the best lemon pound cake I've ever tasted. I love TFA mocha at 6%, tastes like a Starbucks coffee.
And I actually like TFA vanilla swirl by itself at 6-8%.


Well i am looking forward to import flavours from one vendor which is perfumer apprentice because importing flavors from other sources will cost me more shipping


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TFA and Perfumer's Apprentice are the same. ;)
 

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Just for the heck of it Asif I just mixed some DX Banana Cream at 10% in a 5ml test bottle.

A little shake and no steep and I think it tastes quite nice:)

Kind of like a banana with a sweet cream poured over it.
 

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Just for the heck of it Asif I just mixed some DX Banana Cream at 10% in a 5ml test bottle.

A little shake and no steep and I think it tastes quite nice:)

Kind of like a banana with a sweet cream poured over it.
You're gonna make me mix up summa this, aren't you? LOL!
 

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My baad i thought inawara is another brand


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yes, Inawera is another brand. But TPA/TFA are the same company.

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Just for the heck of it Asif I just mixed some DX Banana Cream at 10% in a 5ml test bottle.

A little shake and no steep and I think it tastes quite nice:)

Kind of like a banana with a sweet cream poured over it.

Ohh thanks mate so kind of you want to share some
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Inawera is another brand, you can get it from Poland. But TFA and Perfumer's Apprentice are the same company.
 

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Inawera is another brand, you can get it from Poland. But TFA and Perfumer's Apprentice are the same company.


Its means i was right in other way


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For Inawera flavors, the best place to get them is e-aromashop.com -- also in Poland, but their prices beat hell out of inawera.com's.

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