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Sir Kadly

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I'm just so fuckin tired of reading all the bullshit and horse crap and I can't vent over there. It's nothing personal against any of my fellow brethren vapors here.
If you came here to vent, then vent. Nobody here minds venting.
If you came here to shit all over everyone just because they aren't ready to bend over and take it up the ass yet, then fuck you.
If you came over here to spout the same nonsense you spout over there, for example the idea that juice vendors are making millions in profits, then you are the fucktard that you just called all of us. Learn about how businesses work and concepts like cost vs price vs margin before you start spouting that kind of ludicrous BS. After seeing that post by you on ECF, it's hard to take your thoughts seriously.
 

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Not sure if this is what you had in mind.

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-SP32D/AM

https://mobymemory.com/uk/moby-memory-2gb-micro-sd-microsd-transflash-tf-memory-card.html


This second link uses TransFlash memory instead of the HC. It is still only 2GB though.

Fucking 'ell.



Rat bastards had to give six names to a bloody bisquit that all mean 'ey I'm a fookin bisquit.

Not seeing much if any that are not SDHC SDXC The HC means high capicity, XD extra capacity. I would figure they are encoded with firmware that compresses the data on them. Having extra room on these seems the more popular consumer choice. ( I see they are HC. Damn it. )

Is your device not reading the HC format?

Damn it. That bites big donkey balls.

I will look into this more. If I'm not able to find anything further, will tell you. So far though it seems you're going to be needing to use what has become the standard, which in this case would be HC or XD cards. Your device might need the Bios in it flashed out in order to upgrade some its firmware. Like I said, will keep looking into this a bit. It's one of those damnable things which creeps into my mind like C'thulu. Still can have nightmares thinking about The Mountains of Madness. Point being I like to solve problems like this, and if unable to solve them, at least find someone who can.

I may need to chat up my boyfriend to get something figured out. Not that I'll mind that exactly. It's just been a while since we chatted. He stays way too busy doing all sorts of computer related stuff. It was him that got me onto Ubuntu Linux originally. Wife got me Debian. I seem to go back forth between the two versions of the same coin. One day I'm frustrated Debian takes forever to advance upstream, the next I'm frustrated that Ubuntu is too quick to advance. * chuckles *

Well, I *can't* use HC or XC, the tablet won't read it. There's no way to do anything to the tablet to make it do anything different. That first one is HC, I've already tried an SDHC, it won't read it. The 2nd one, 2gb, no better than what I'm finding. It's weird because the specs on the tablet say it accepts up to 64gb MicroSD... but nobody makes any microSD larger than 2GB, unless it's SDHC or SDXC. I've checked online at Microcenter, Walmart, OfficeDepot, Ebay, and Amazon... anything larger than 2GB is HC or XC.

The tablet was PIFed to me, so it's not like I'm really out anything... though I did buy a 32GB MicroSDHC, thinking it was just microSD, but it did come with an adapter, so I can either use it with the adapter in my camera, or without the adapter in my phone once the 64GB one runs out of space. Or maybe put different stuff on it. I dunno. It's just very discouraging. At least the tablet is good for reading ebooks, which is why it was PIFed to me, so for that use, it's great!

Andria
 

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I'm just so fuckin tired of reading all the bullshit and horse crap and I can't vent over there. It's nothing personal against any of my fellow brethren vapors here.

I'm as shit deep a vapor as anybody. I love to vape. I do believe it has saved my life and added me some hopefully quality years on the end.

All the amorphous bullshit, pseudo legal non factual goat spunk on the boards is unbearable.

I have done everything thing I can do to advocate our cause.

They have written over 175,000 pages relating to regulations. I read 499 of them slowly and concisely.

I am no expert but it doesn't take a genius to understand the table is slanted 89 degrees against us. 89.99999 degrees against.

Do whatever the fuck you want, I could care less. No, don't sell your vape shit. Continue to post all your facts and how wrong the FDA is. Explore how credit cards will cease in vape shops. Tell us the cost of application and R&D and process and how 17,000 vape shops will be done in 2 years.
Talk about BP and BT and Senators and Obama and judicial committees and how unfaaaaaaaair it all is. Cite the worthless UK study and post shit from 2007 how it's safe to vape PG.

The fucking FDFUCKINGA will always error on the side of caution.

Let me repeat that...THE FUCKING FD FUCKING A WILL ALWAYS ERROR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

Garnering public sentiment for tobacco is a dead fucking end. It will NEVER happen but keep the faith you worthless fucktards. (I guess you can take that personally)

What a fucking joke this is.

Now Rox, can you break down for the 9,009th tIme, exactly what happened with you and your atty over there.

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAH

I've worked as hard as anyone to advocate, and yes I read all 499 pages as well. But, I'm not prepared to quit yet. I'm a realist though, and I'm prepared to be able to continue vaping, but I'll also continue to help others quit smoking until I take my last breath.

What happened on ecf? I probably know the least because they've refused to communicate with me other than one email the day after they banned me. It said I had to be a registered supplier or be banned. I chose to be banned because I made $0 for the design, $0 in profits, don't work for Augvape, and haven't sold shit nor contacted vendors. Qorax has designed 2 attys and 2 mechs that I'm aware of, but they are ok with him doing it apparently.

Well, they didn't ban me. I'm sure that the forum was in an uproar is the only reason why. So they just left me suspended for the next 3.5 weeks, then made me a supplier anyway. BTW, they never notified me that I was now a vendor. They waited for other members to tell me.

Now I'm suspended again, but we aren't sure when they did that since, again, I wasn't notified. They have also been deleting some of my posts, but I don't know why. Not sure, but I think I'm the only member ever to get suspended without even logging in :D No matter, they can go fuck themselves.
 

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If you came here to vent, then vent. Nobody here minds venting.
If you came here to shit all over everyone just because they aren't ready to bend over and take it up the ass yet, then fuck you.
If you came over here to spout the same nonsense you spout over there, for example the idea that juice vendors are making millions in profits, then you are the fucktard that you just called all of us. Learn about how businesses work and concepts like cost vs price vs margin before you start spouting that kind of ludicrous BS. After seeing that post by you on ECF, it's hard to take your thoughts seriously.
Like I'm going to go and shag all your stupid spew down and type it here. No, Fung Goo!

Maybe if you knew any juice fucking vendors that have murdered it you would not make such dumb remarks.

Go shag down another post of mine you *Staff removed
 
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Sir Kadly

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Like I'm going to go and shag all your stupid spew down and type it here. No, Fung Goo!

Maybe if you knew any juice fucking vendors that have murdered it you would not make such dumb remarks.

Go shag down another post of mine you*Staff removed.
I didn't have to "shag" any of it , I read your asinine remarks earlier today before you showed up and started spreading your sickness here. As far as dumb remarks go, please enlighten me how any of them are making as much profit as you claim. Do you think that other idiot, can't remember who that was and don't feel like "shagging" it right now, is right and they are earning $10.00 per 30ml in profit? Based on what? If you start talking about costs vs price, make sure to take into account both fixed and variable overhead costs. Also, don't forget payroll, payroll taxes, etc.

Maybe if you knew any fucking business teachers that could explain the concepts of the costs of doing business you would not make such dumb remarks.
 
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Glad you went with a good brand. A lot of the cheaper ones that are sold at Home Depot are exactly that. Cheap. Not sure about the Honeywell consumer series, but the pro install type carry a 5 year warranty.

It wasn't a top of the line. It was their mid priced one.
 

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I didn't have to "shag" any of it , I read your asinine remarks earlier today before you showed up and started spreading your sickness here. As far as dumb remarks go, please enlighten me how any of them are making as much profit as you claim. Do you think that other idiot, can't remember who that was and don't feel like "shagging" it right now, is right and they are earning $10.00 per 30ml in profit? Based on what? If you start talking about costs vs price, make sure to take into account both fixed and variable overhead costs. Also, don't forget payroll, payroll taxes, etc.

Maybe if you knew any fucking business teachers that could explain the concepts of the costs of doing business you would not make such dumb remarks.

Exactly this kind of bullshit spew is what my post was about. Dumb questions. Worthless spew. $10??? 30mls???Profit??? BUSINESS TEACHERS??? Payroll tax???

Are you fucking 12 years old. Shut the fuck up.
 

Sir Kadly

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Exactly this kind of bullshit spew is what my post was about. Dumb questions. Worthless spew. $10??? 30mls???Profit??? BUSINESS TEACHERS??? Payroll tax???

Are you fucking 12 years old. Shut the fuck up.
Got it, not willing or able to defend your point of view through any means other than insults. The troll moniker was indeed correct so I will stop feeding you now.
 

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Again, why are we fighting with each other, instead of continuing to fight for our right to vape? I get it, Mr. Rat, you feel it's worthless now. Maybe it is, but I'm going down swinging. You do tend to go around putting up insulting posts for some reason. If you're bored, maybe I can find some things for you to do :)
 

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Got it, not willing or able to defend your point of view through any means other than insults. The troll moniker was indeed correct so I will stop feeding you now.
Defend this you simp. I'm not here to defend a thing. Reread my OP. Dont asked me dumb questions. Is it that complex? You are a single turd in a large herd of turd.
 

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exactly Roxy....
at this point, we should all have one common enemy.
THE FDA

we've had two years to come together and put our differences aside and fight with one voice. It's long part time to grow up.
 

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I didn't have to "shag" any of it , I read your asinine remarks earlier today before you showed up and started spreading your sickness here. As far as dumb remarks go, please enlighten me how any of them are making as much profit as you claim. Do you think that other idiot, can't remember who that was and don't feel like "shagging" it right now, is right and they are earning $10.00 per 30ml in profit? Based on what? If you start talking about costs vs price, make sure to take into account both fixed and variable overhead costs. Also, don't forget payroll, payroll taxes, etc.

Maybe if you knew any fucking business teachers that could explain the concepts of the costs of doing business you would not make such dumb remarks.

I Agree with you 100%

It's common knowledge in the industry that every time juice changes hands prices double so if you know people and only have one middle man which is as set as you can get you take your $20 30ml of premium juice rent or buy the clean room, pay people to mix it, bottle it, label it, pay for bottles and labels then you send it to the middleman and you get 5 fucking dollars for all that work per bottle.

You would be extremely lucky to get all that done for $3 per bottle. You need to kick out 5000 or more each run to make $2 off of each 30ml.
Then the middleman gets it. They are called "wholesalers" and they have lots of shops to send your juice to.
He sells it for $10 a bottle to mom & pops who get around 50 bottles.
The mom & pops sell it from $15 to $20 per 30ml.

So if anyone wants to get pissed off at someone for making money on the juice it's the vendor you buy it from who makes the most money.

People get all bent out of shape at the juice maker for what they pay for juice and they are really making peanuts compared to everyone else.

Plus they are talking a HUGE risk because what if the juice bombs?
Does one hit wonder police man ring a bell?
it tastes like a fucking burnt sweaty gym sock.

Then you end up with 5000 bottles of shit that you can not sell and you still owe the money for labeling and bottling, paying your employees, if you are having a lab do it for you then you owe them money.

People don't understand how little the juice creator makes.
 
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Defend this you simp. I'm not here to defend a thing. Reread my OP. Dont asked me dumb questions. Is it that complex? You are a single turd in a large herd of turd.

I am really surprised here. Your one of the first people I met on ECF close to 2 years ago WharfRat and I just dont remember you being such a dick.
 

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Again, why are we fighting with each other, instead of continuing to fight for our right to vape? I get it, Mr. Rat, you feel it's worthless now. Maybe it is, but I'm going down swinging. You do tend to go around putting up insulting posts for some reason. If you're bored, maybe I can find some things for you to do :)

I think only one person is fighting

The rest of us are having a good laugh
 

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I Agree with you 100%

It's common knowledge in the industry that every times juice changes hands prices double so if you know people and only have one middle man which is as set as you can get you take your $20 30ml of premium juice rent or buy the clean room, pay people to mix it, bottle it, label it, pay for bottles and labels then you send it to the middleman and you get 5 fucking dollars for all that work per bottle.

You would be extremely lucky to get all that done for $3 per bottle. You need to kick out 5000 or more each run to make $2 off of one 30ml.
The middleman gets it. They are called "wholesalers" and they have lots of shops to send your juice to. He sells it for $10 a bottle to mom & pops who get around 50 bottles. The mom & pops sell it from $15 to $20.

So if anyone wants to get pissed off at someone for making money on the juice it's the vendor you buy it from who makes the most money.

People get all bent out of shape at the juice maker for what they pay for juice and they are really making peanuts compared to everyone else.
Plus they are talking a HUGE risk because what if the juice bombs?
Does one hit wonder police man ring a bell?
it tastes like a fucking burnt sweaty gym sock.

Then you end up with 5000 bottles of shit that you can not sell and you still owe the money for labeling and bottling, paying your employees, if you are having a lab do it for you then you owe them money.

People don't understand how little the juice creator makes.

I believe juice suppliers actually have it better than vape shops. Most vape shops store brand juice is their bread and butter and just imagine how many bottles they have to sell before even considering making a profit.
 

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I believe juice suppliers actually have it better than vape shops. Most vape shops store brand juice is their bread and butter and just imagine how many bottles they have to sell before even considering making a profit.

I believe you should find a cheaper supplier if you can't afford your juice habit

End of story
 

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I bet she had Petey instructing her :D
Petey was reading the directions while Roxy was cussing......:)

Actually the other way around. Petey is mad that I washed my hair in the middle of the day instead of after he went to bed. I'm not allowed to make changes to my hair.
 

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I believe you should find a cheaper supplier if you can't afford your juice habit

End of story

I DIY but I also give some business to the local shops when I can. One shop I wont give the sweat off my balls but I heard them assholes went out of business. The other ones i am glad are in the area so I help out when I can and buy some stuff from them.
 

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I DIY but I also give some business to the local shops when I can. One shop I wont give the sweat off my balls but I heard them assholes went out of business. The other ones i am glad are in the area so I help out when I can and buy some stuff from them.

I was just setting a rodent trap :grumpy:
 

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I greatly dislike programming shit

This one was better than my previous one. Just one time for weekdays, then Saturday, then Sunday. My previous one I had to do all 7 days separately. Considering I'm retired, every day is the same.

See, if you wouldnt of pissed Petey off..........

:D

Petey is a mama's boy. Oobie is the most mechanical. My dearly departed Briana was the most mechanical of them all. She would take nuts off bolts, and unscrew things and unlatch things all day. Everyday I would come home from work to find she unscrewed all quick links holding her toys from the top of her cage. Her favorite toy was an acrylic treasure chest with different shaped holes. I filled it with blocks of different shapes, and she had to figure out how to get them all out. The only time she ever cussed was one day when one of the blocks was jammed. She was shaking the treasure chest, and peering in. Finally, she said, "Goddamnit!"
 

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This one was better than my previous one. Just one time for weekdays, then Saturday, then Sunday. My previous one I had to do all 7 days separately. Considering I'm retired, every day is the same.



Petey is a mama's boy. Oobie is the most mechanical. My dearly departed Briana was the most mechanical of them all. She would take nuts off bolts, and unscrew things and unlatch things all day. Everyday I would come home from work to find she unscrewed all quick links holding her toys from the top of her cage. Her favorite toy was an acrylic treasure chest with different shaped holes. I filled it with blocks of different shapes, and she had to figure out how to get them all out. The only time she ever cussed was one day when one of the blocks was jammed. She was shaking the treasure chest, and peering in. Finally, she said, "Goddamnit!"
I love hearing your stories about them. Big smiles!
 
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