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But the Jerk in question even being interviews by law enforcement was still able to purchase firearms under his own name?
I would have thought that the Fed's would have put something in the data base that would preclude him from purchasing anything more deadly than a slingshot!

I'm not sure I'm up for pre-crime judgements just yet but to your point, I'd think this would be a person that would warrant some eye's on surveillance. Good hell, they can spend billions to collect all my emails and VU posts and phone calls but they can't afford to put an old fashioned tail on a known questionable fuck when his name came up on a background check?
 

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A litle know fact is that in the early days of our country, per the law at the time, each Male Citizen over a certain age was required to have a firearm as well as a certain amount of gunpowder and lead balls in case of need.

Personally, I have a small collection of firearms, mostly for investment.

That being said, I live out in the boonies and we kind of watch out for each other.

I have a Ruger 10/22 for Varmints.

A Mossburg 510 with pistol grips (with a special load that will penetrate the bad guys but will not go through a wall) for primary home defense.

And a Springfield, 1911, .45 ACP for whenever I need to travel for business through high crime areas.

But then, I also have a spotless police record and have passed all background checks without issue.

But the Jerk in question even being interviews by law enforcement was still able to purchase firearms under his own name?

I would have thought that the Fed's would have put something in the data base that would preclude him from purchasing anything more deadly than a slingshot!
I remember one of the Kings of England made it a decree that every english common man between 16-60 had to practice his archery with a longbow on Sundays.At the time the longbow was one of the deadliest weapons available and was responsible for the English victory at agincourt against a much bigger army.
 

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I will admit that things may happen in darkness but the government meeting in broom closets planning mass killings to push an agenda for gun grabbing is serious reaching.
why. .....they don't meet in a fucking broom closet they meet in big ass oval offices with a view to die for, and they sit down and create wars where thousands die for...war profiterring...read a history book rich powefull men have throughout history have used the common man like cattle...do you think psycopaths just disappeared sure this guy was a nut job with a gun ....but his is nothing we have nut jobs with armies running around this planet and they are no more sane than that idiot in Orlando...the only diffrence between them are the ones in our goverment are smarter and crazier....what makes you think American politicians are any diffrent than Chavez or the other Hussien....that shithed Obama threw some poor innocent shmuck in prison because he was trying to pin Benghazi on a dumb vodeo so nobody would find out he was gun running to terrorists....and he would lose the election.
 

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@pulsevape Beck had his own show on Fox and had a lot of theories and information that turned out to be true. He got booted.

You will never prove any if the stuff you say. Continually spouting it on forums just puts you on watch by the nsa, FBI and who knows who else.

I agree, the election was rigged but they always have a fall guy to take the blame, thus nothing gets proved until it's too late. People forget or don't care or don't know. None is good.
 

pulsevape

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@pulsevape Beck had his own show on Fox and had a lot of theories and information that turned out to be true. He got booted.

You will never prove any if the stuff you say. Continually spouting it on forums just puts you on watch by the nsa, FBI and who knows who else.

I agree, the election was rigged but they always have a fall guy to take the blame, thus nothing gets proved until it's too late. People forget or don't care or don't know. None is good.
dude I was put on a list 15 years ago,.....for political thought...I doubt they took me off the list for good behavior. Nowdays we are all on a fucking list.welcome to the reservation....it's not exactlly a state secret anymore that bloodthirsty lunatics run the world, and that they control every institution of our society, in fact it is so widespread and is such common knowledge that they no longer even bother trying to hide it....it is out in the open....anyone who doesn't see it is averting their eyes because they don't want to face a painfull and terrifying reality...
 
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MyMagicMist

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... anyone who doesn't see it is averting their eyes because they don't want to face a painfull and terrifying reality...

Then, some are like me so fucking sick of seeing it we're trying Morgan Freeman's way to defeat it. "Don't talk about it." I mean why not try to ignore it, to no longer consent as best you're able?

Yes I appreciate police, or peace officers that are like Andy Taylor. Those are the ones what deserve gratitude. They know it is a risk they chose taking. Not once do they complain, or seek to use military grade stuff.

Trouble being they are so damn few Andy Taylors nowadays. Next you hear hospital nurseries will have SWAT teams armed to the hilt. Some may already.

It is all becoming a crock of steaming shit when you see that. I quit looking most of the time. Rather see innovations like Liter of Light, the electricity free refrigerator, bottle schools, random acts of kindness.
 

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Then, some are like me so fucking sick of seeing it we're trying Morgan Freeman's way to defeat it. "Don't talk about it." I mean why not try to ignore it, to no longer consent as best you're able?

Yes I appreciate police, or peace officers that are like Andy Taylor. Those are the ones what deserve gratitude. They know it is a risk they chose taking. Not once do they complain, or seek to use military grade stuff.

Trouble being they are so damn few Andy Taylors nowadays. Next you hear hospital nurseries will have SWAT teams armed to the hilt. Some may already.

It is all becoming a crock of steaming shit when you see that. I quit looking most of the time. Rather see innovations like Liter of Light, the electricity free refrigerator, bottle schools, random acts of kindness.
Don't look huh?...reminds me of a friend of mine..he was born and spent the first 11 years of his life in Warsaw Poland when the Soviets still controled it...he told me stories of looking out the window at night and watching big black cars from the secret police pay visits to people in the nieghborhood, and the people being taken for a ride they never returned from...his parents grabbed him away from the window drew the curtain, and told him.."don't watch".....somehow ignoring the shit didn't make it go away for the Poles,but when they came togehter and started speaking out, they won their freedom from the soviets.Fuck Morgan fucking Freeman.According to newly released documents that a hacker who hacked into the DNC records.. Morgan fucking Freeman has donated 1 million dollars to the DNC....so what Morgan Freeman wants is for YOU to ignore politics while he helps finnance the election of Hilary Clinton one of the most evil,corrupt and bloodthirsty meglomaniacs to walk american soil.
 
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Just a note.

Dems say anyone under FBI investigation should not be able to buy a gun.

Hitlery is under FBI investigation and is currently trying to buy control of Nuclear Weapons. The Dems have approved the sale.
 

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Just a note.

Dems say anyone under FBI investigation should not be able to buy a gun.

Hitlery is under FBI investigation and is currently trying to buy control of Nuclear Weapons. The Dems have approved the sale.
That's funny.
 

MyMagicMist

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Don't look huh?...reminds me of a friend of mine..he was born and spent the first 11 years of his life in Warsaw Poland when the Soviets still controled it...he told me stories of looking out the window at night and watching big black cars from the secret police pay visits to people in the nieghborhood, and the people being taken for a ride they never returned from...his parents grabbed him away from the window drew the curtain, and told him.."don't watch".....somehow ignoring the shit didn't make it go away for the Poles,but when they came togehter and started speaking out, they won their freedom from the soviets.Fuck Morgan fucking Freeman.According to newly released documents that a hacker who hacked into the DNC records.. Morgan fucking Freeman has donated 1 million dollars to the DNC....so what Morgan Freeman wants is for YOU to ignore politics while he helps finnance the election of Hilary Clinton one of the most evil,corrupt and bloodthirsty meglomaniacs to walk american soil.

If you are no longer consenting to their game/s, they lose power. I do not care what Freeman does or does not donate to. What I understood from his interview regarding racism, everyone thinks it's a problem, everyone talks about it. His point was exactly, stop talking about it, it stops being a problem. Granted I can see the negative impact of that as well as the positive. I am focusing on the positive.

Why let others define me? Why let others tell me what is a problem? Damn you espouse freedom but neglect seeing your own freedom of choice, I'm not arguing with you. What I will argue is I think it is stupid to not see, or use your own choice while it is still left to you. Buddha taught, Henry Ford taught ... you can be happy or sad, both take the same energy, both are your own choice. Whichever you choose will be what you are, what you create, what you radiate. Choosing is the ultimate freedom. Try to not neglect it.
 

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If you are no longer consenting to their game/s, they lose power. I do not care what Freeman does or does not donate to. What I understood from his interview regarding racism, everyone thinks it's a problem, everyone talks about it. His point was exactly, stop talking about it, it stops being a problem. Granted I can see the negative impact of that as well as the positive. I am focusing on the positive.

Why let others define me? Why let others tell me what is a problem? Damn you espouse freedom but neglect seeing your own freedom of choice, I'm not arguing with you. What I will argue is I think it is stupid to not see, or use your own choice while it is still left to you. Buddha taught, Henry Ford taught ... you can be happy or sad, both take the same energy, both are your own choice. Whichever you choose will be what you are, what you create, what you radiate. Choosing is the ultimate freedom. Try to not neglect it.
Seriously you are quoting the Buddha in the same breath as Henry fucking Ford...the recipent in 1938 of the highest medal awarded to a forgienger by the Nazi Party of Germany.a war profiter who made money on both side during the war....your spirituality is nothing if not bizzare.Focusing on the positive is not being ignorant of and complicit with the negative.....
 
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If you are no longer consenting to their game/s, they lose power. I do not care what Freeman does or does not donate to. What I understood from his interview regarding racism, everyone thinks it's a problem, everyone talks about it. His point was exactly, stop talking about it, it stops being a problem. Granted I can see the negative impact of that as well as the positive. I am focusing on the positive.

Why let others define me? Why let others tell me what is a problem? Damn you espouse freedom but neglect seeing your own freedom of choice, I'm not arguing with you. What I will argue is I think it is stupid to not see, or use your own choice while it is still left to you. Buddha taught, Henry Ford taught ... you can be happy or sad, both take the same energy, both are your own choice. Whichever you choose will be what you are, what you create, what you radiate. Choosing is the ultimate freedom. Try to not neglect it.


Here is a dose of reality for you......

Even when you refuse to choose, you still have made a choice.

That means, when you "refuse" to participate in or discuss a subject, someone else WILL make choices. And YOU WILL be left to live with the decisions and choices others WILL make for you.

Ignoring and being a pacifist will get you nowhere. Unless you are ok with someone else deciding every aspect of your life, however long it will be.
 

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@freemind I completely agree but when the media and certain parts of society continually raise "issues" to create problems, I choose not to participate.
 

freemind

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@freemind I completely agree but when the media and certain parts of society continually raise "issues" to create problems, I choose not to participate.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

So, if the subject is say, racism or sexual preference discrimination, they will squeak. When they do, they are pushing for legislation to discriminate against those not like them.

So being silent only leads to you being viewed as sympathetic to their agenda. Or in the least, ok with whatever squeaky people are after.

People know if they bitch loud enough, they will get their way because too many people are like you. They don't want the confrontation, so they shut up and sit back.

This line of thinking, like yours, has lead us to where we are today. It's only going to get worse, the longer people avoid confrontation.
 

joeyboy

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The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

So, if the subject is say, racism or sexual preference discrimination, they will squeak. When they do, they are pushing for legislation to discriminate against those not like them.

So being silent only leads to you being viewed as sympathetic to their agenda. Or in the least, ok with whatever squeaky people are after.

People know if they bitch loud enough, they will get their way because too many people are like you. They don't want the confrontation, so they shut up and sit back.

This line of thinking, like yours, has lead us to where we are today. It's only going to get worse, the longer people avoid confrontation.
No, if you disagree you are labeled a racist or a homophobe. Neither of which may be true. That card, for them, is always the easiest to pull due to how society is today. Live and let live doesn't work. Now, it's let live and let me take xxx from you in the process. IMO, that is one of the continuing issues with hate in USA. The problem is it always comes around to lesson their stand. When I see this stuff on TV I just laugh. Those of today forget the strides that have already been. They, daily, take those strides away.
 

MyMagicMist

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That's why they use the label. To shut you up. It still works on allot of people. It doesn't work on me.

If you do engage those 'squeakies' it only sinks you to their level. You may not be at their level, negative or positive. You simply may be different. So fucking what, we're all different. Let's try the simple, 'live and let live'. Yet we're told "oh that don't work'. See? All about creation of conflict, division isn't it? So long as we stay divided we all lose. If we unite, who knows? Maybe we all win? But again we're told 'oh but it don't work'. Anyone actually give it a genuine try, without the hysterical and petty labeling games, the division?
 

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Seriously you are quoting the Buddha in the same breath as Henry fucking Ford...the recipent in 1938 of the highest medal awarded to a forgienger by the Nazi Party of Germany.a war profiter who made money on both side during the war....your spirituality is nothing if not bizzare.Focusing on the positive is not being ignorant of and complicit with the negative.....

It takes positive & negative to create the whole.
 

freemind

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So fucking what, we're all different. Let's try the simple, 'live and let live'. Yet we're told "oh that don't work'. See? All about creation of conflict, division isn't it? So long as we stay divided we all lose. If we unite, who knows? Maybe we all win?

Did you THINK about that, BEFORE you wrote it?

What kind of a daydreamer, thinks people will all agree, and get along?

People can and should have differing opinions. That's healthy.
What is not, is when some fruitcake dreams up illogical and completely stupid laws, and expects everyone else to do it, because they say so. Being discriminatory themselves, in the name of anti-discrimination. Taking action in the names of "fairness", only to deprive others.

If you think you should unite behind fruitcakes, go right ahead. You would be no less a fruit, then they.
 

MyMagicMist

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Wow that's really deep...do you work for Hallmark writing greeting cards?....or is this something you heard in a Morgan Freeman movie.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

No, actually it is fairly common knowledge. Order cannot be exclusive of chaos, ergo there is no 'order from chaos'. You do not have life without death, light without darkness.

To me the Latin you quote is in error. If you are continually preparing to 'get more cows', which is what the ancient Phoenician word of war means, you do not have time for living. You likely also do not have time to consider all those cows will need land upon which to graze. Not all land belongs to only one human being. All the land belongs to the Earth. Humans are merely passing through. War is a stupid waste of life, imho.
 

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War was, is and will be.

The only peace on earth will be when Christ returns.
 

pulsevape

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No, actually it is fairly common knowledge. Order cannot be exclusive of chaos, ergo there is no 'order from chaos'. You do not have life without death, light without darkness.

To me the Latin you quote is in error. If you are continually preparing to 'get more cows', which is what the ancient Phoenician word of war means, you do not have time for living. You likely also do not have time to consider all those cows will need land upon which to graze. Not all land belongs to only one human being. All the land belongs to the Earth. Humans are merely passing through. War is a stupid waste of life, imho.[



Crack a history book and tell me how it worked out for those who never prepared for war...."Woe the Vanquished"

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Crack a history book and tell me how it worked out for those who never prepared for war...."Woe the Vanquished"

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People often times have a problem understanding the simple truths. They get lost in intellectual musings.
 

MyMagicMist

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tru words they're sophists. or in the venacular jerkoffs.

Or, they simply have differing opinions & different perceptions of life, history, truths. Still you prove out my point that fear serves to create division. You fear admitting that my views are equally as valid as yours. To avoid that you posit name calling in an attempt to exclude me. And I'm the one with school yard logic?

You'll excuse me, I can say it simply, we can agree to disagree. Your views are no less than mine. Nor, are my views any less valid than yours. That is all we're doing here, discussing opinions. Well, we were. I see how you're shutting conversation down though. So, I'll excuse myself. No further need to engage any of you.
 

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