Please Help Choosing Mod for Vapocalypse

[Tuluum]

So, I don't think anyone really knows how all these ridiculous regulations (perhaps prohibition is more apt) will actually turn out.. But I'd like to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

My current mod is the Innokin Cortex, which I absolutely love. All of its quirks just work with my uber-wonky brain. I'm not so much interested in "replacing" it, more expanding my opportunities. It also has some items of concern, such as the internal battery.

Anyway, I am trying to find a mod that will cover all bases possible. The issue is my budget and unique personal requirements. I am looking at an absolute max of $100, but preferably around $50.

I have some very serious health issues (main one being a severely broken spine that continues to break due to bone metabolism disorder), so dedicating more funds is just not possible. As it is, I will be relying on money I will hopefully be receiving for my birthday!

I would like it to be as future proofed as possible. Both for vapocalypse reasons, and so that it could still go to help someone else should I pass away. I have no issue buying used.

As a programmer & electrical engineer, I love the ability to truly customize the experience with DNA200. I thought about doing a DIY mod with the board, but its not nearly as cost effective as id like. I *really* want that tinkering ability, but it may just not be the cards I'm dealt.

I rarely find myself going over 40 watts in any build, but I'm still hoping for a mod that is capable of at least 100 watts.

At this point, I am mainly looking at the RX200s, hcigar vt133 (I think I've seen it for $99, but with batteries, etc. its a long shot), Snow Wolf, and the cheaper Vapor Flasks (love that form factor!). I'm definitely open to others though. I like the Hohm series, but I think it'd have to be used to make it feasible.

I figure that I would be happy with any of them, but given the circumstances (both personal and in the vape market), I felt it would be wise to get more input from people who have actually used one or more of these devices, as I might only get one shot to get it right.

I also need it to be sturdy and survive drops, since I can occasionally have seizures and may drop the mod. I have yet to find anyone that tests dropping it intentionally!

Sooo, first, sorry for the absolute book of a post (seriously)! I couldnt figure out how to get all that info in more efficiently..

But, if you could only have one of these devices, forevermore, which would it be? And with my personal needs considered, would you still pick the same one?

 

[Whiskey]

After those wear out you may have difficulties getting any more VV's, Mech's seem to be what folks are getting for back ups when that happens

 

[Deucesjack]

Vapenw has the Vt133 on sale with 20% off for the 4th of July sale. Have you ever considered a Hohmtech device? The G2 is big and ugly but built like a brick. The new Slice has the same chip but it's much prettier. It also comes with a 500 day warranty. I love my VF Flask. Great mod that won't disappoint. The Ipv5 is pretty bullet proof as well. Here's a review I did on the Slice.

http://vapingunderground.com/index.php?threads/251381/

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[f1r3b1rd]

Welcome to the vu, I understand your financial position. I myself have an SCI t12/l1 complete injury. I recently received my EE degree as well as minor in ME.

I look at it in multiple ways if the absolute shit hits the fan, a mod without any electronics is the best way to go ie. complete mechanical_or_ something like a hexohm or another mod with the okl20 chip would be an option- there is no screen or real smarts, but it uses the okl and a pot for Variable Voltage.

those are the two I am really hanging my hopes on, the okl is used in leds and a few other applications outside of vaping, so it should be safe.
ive stocked up though on several different things, the hex is usa made and has a lifetime warranty, but assuming the company stays around, if not, It should be easy to work on.
The dnas should last, but I have that school of thought that the more bells and whistles you have, the more avenues for problems you have as well .
edit: the G2, Has had mixed reviews,, and not enough good ones for me to personally trust it

 

[Deucesjack]

Welcome to the vu, I understand your financial position. I myself have an SCI t12/l1 complete injury. I recently received my EE degree as well as minor in ME.

I look at it in multiple ways if the absolute shit hits the fan, a mod without any electronics is the best way to go ie. complete mechanical_or_ something like a hexohm or another mod with the okl20 chip would be an option- there is no screen or real smarts, but it uses the okl and a pot for Variable Voltage.

those are the two I am really hanging my hopes on, the okl is used in leds and a few other applications outside of vaping, so it should be safe.
ive stocked up though on several different things, the hex is usa made and has a lifetime warranty, but assuming the company stays around, if not, It should be easy to work on.
The dnas should last, but I have that school of thought that the more bells and whistles you have, the more avenues for problems you have as well .
edit: the G2, Has had mixed reviews,, and not enough good ones for me to personally trust it

Come over to the darkside bro. Lol. I honestly believe most people that don't like the FSK chip just didn't take the time to get to know it. They get frustrated and either sell it or put it away. It does things a bit differently than what most of us are used to but man once you dial that baby in she's tough to beat.

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[Tuluum]

After those wear out you may have difficulties getting any more VV's, Mech's seem to be what folks are getting for back ups when that happens

I can certainly understand the logic behind that! I'm about at my max just building coils though. The ability to just wrap whatever I want and slap it into the deck is quite valuable to me.

The added safety is also a large factor, as I am not always "on point" mentally. So, having electronics and software doing the fine adjustment, preventing burning, etc. is a good thing!

In my situation, I'm just not sure that a mech mod is a great option, but I do appreciate the input!

If it really comes to that, I suppose i'll move on grudgingly.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Come over to the darkside bro. Lol. I honestly believe most people that don't like the FSK chip just didn't take the time to get to know it. They get frustrated and either sell it or put it away. It does things a bit differently than what most of us are used to but man once you dial that baby in she's tough to beat.

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that may be very true... if the price drops to a point that I'm ready to make a personal gambel I may do so. hell, you know I like to ust have shit. hahah

I cant help but feel that for a person looking for 1 mod to hold through us figuring out the fda regs, that something with less tech would be better.

I'm also not a fan of "insane vape mode" - it makes me feel like donetello the nina turtle is trapped In my mod. lmao

 

[Tuluum]

Vapenw has the Vt133 on sale with 20% off for the 4th of July sale. Have you ever considered a Hohmtech device? The G2 is big and ugly but built like a brick. The new Slice has the same chip but it's much prettier. It also comes with a 500 day warranty. I love my VF Flask. Great mod that won't disappoint. The Ipv5 is pretty bullet proof as well. Here's a review I did on the Slice.

http://vapingunderground.com/index.php?threads/251381/

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I'm definitely open to the Hohmtechs! The only issue is price, so I would have to buy used and my concern would be getting a newer one in the ~3 weeks between my birthday and August 8th (I think that's the date?). Sadly, I will not be able to take advantage of any 4th sales, as my birthday is mid July.

I'm going to be keeping my eyes out for one. Do they have any type of customizing akin to the evolv chips? Ill check out that review, thanks for the info!

 

[Tuluum]

Welcome to the vu, I understand your financial position. I myself have an SCI t12/l1 complete injury. I recently received my EE degree as well as minor in ME.

I look at it in multiple ways if the absolute shit hits the fan, a mod without any electronics is the best way to go ie. complete mechanical_or_ something like a hexohm or another mod with the okl20 chip would be an option- there is no screen or real smarts, but it uses the okl and a pot for Variable Voltage.

those are the two I am really hanging my hopes on, the okl is used in leds and a few other applications outside of vaping, so it should be safe.
ive stocked up though on several different things, the hex is usa made and has a lifetime warranty, but assuming the company stays around, if not, It should be easy to work on.
The dnas should last, but I have that school of thought that the more bells and whistles you have, the more avenues for problems you have as well .
edit: the G2, Has had mixed reviews,, and not enough good ones for me to personally trust it

Thanks for the welcome

Back issues are rough, eh? For me, T2 through T9 are all severely fractured. Normally not pleasant, but my bones don't heal, so they have been broken for five years and only continue to fracture.. Also have had hip replacements and such, but the back is the tough one. It'll all eventually come to a head, but hopefully that's not for quite some time!

I'm just not sure that mech mods are a great choice for me, because of the reasons outlined to Whiskey. I really do think if it comes to that I will quit. I could also have my machinist buddies make one.. but it may never come to that. I should also have the ability to repair nearly anything that goes wrong with a regulated device, with the possible exception of proprietary software issues. Id have to space out the work over several weeks, but it does give me a bit more confidence in buying one.

Ill give more consideration before jumping into a Hohmtech. I can't say its my first choice anyway, but, if that's how it turns out I figure ill be happy enough with it!

 

[SMOKIE]

Just get a couple of RX200 mods, inexpensive,and dependable.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Thanks for the welcome

Back issues are rough, eh? For me, T2 through T9 are all severely fractured. Normally not pleasant, but my bones don't heal, so they have been broken for five years and only continue to fracture.. Also have had hip replacements and such, but the back is the tough one. It'll all eventually come to a head, but hopefully that's not for quite some time!

I'm just not sure that mech mods are a great choice for me, because of the reasons outlined to Whiskey. I really do think if it comes to that I will quit. I could also have my machinist buddies make one.. but it may never come to that. I should also have the ability to repair nearly anything that goes wrong with a regulated device, with the possible exception of proprietary software issues. Id have to space out the work over several weeks, but it does give me a bit more confidence in buying one.

Ill give more consideration before jumping into a Hohmtech. I can't say its my first choice anyway, but, if that's how it turns out I figure ill be happy enough with it!

what I would do then.. if you're looking for ONE mod, that would always work, is look at anything with the okl t-20 board.
hexohm is the most popular and damn near invincible. I dropped mine off a second floor balcony onto a concrete parking lot. anyone that can solder can fix one easily. thing is, hexohm has a new one coming out so the 2.1 is dropping from 200$ TO 140$ that's outside of your price range, but others with that board should be able to be found cheaper.
check trade n vape. com. the classies...

I think @Zamazam has one

and yeah, back problems to suck... makes me thankful for titanium.

 

[AmandaD]

I do love my RX200s, but with all the possible 510 issues, I won't be buying another one. On the other hand, if I was handy with a soldering iron I'd probably go for it and buy some new 510s from KP just in case!

I have a couple of Reos that should be good for a good number of years (there's a video somewhere showing some major abuse and their survival LOL) and a mech box I'll use if I'm desperate. But I have a whole bunch of unused mods that I guess I'll keep stashed in a drawer.

 

[Tuluum]

what I would do then.. if you're looking for ONE mod, that would always work, is look at anything with the okl t-20 board.
hexohm is the most popular and damn near invincible. I dropped mine off a second floor balcony onto a concrete parking lot. anyone that can solder can fix one easily. thing is, hexohm has a new one coming out so the 2.1 is dropping from 200$ TO 140$ that's outside of your price range, but others with that board should be able to be found cheaper.
check trade n vape. com. the classies...

I think @Zamazam has one

and yeah, back problems to suck... makes me thankful for titanium.

Hmmm.. Thank you for introducing me to the OKL2-T/20. I had heard of the HexOhm, but hadn't looked into it too much.

It looks like I can get the board for around $13 and I think I even have all of the other parts necessary to make a mod just lying around. Well, might need to get a 510 base, but that shouldn't be too hard.

I'm curious if I could integrate something like a beaglebone. Its probably overkill, but at the same time, it might open up some really interesting possibilities. Ya got me thinking now I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it for my main device right off the bat, but it could be a great project. I can only work 5-10 minutes at a time and only when I'm feeling OK, but there wouldn't be any rush.

Those mods do look pretty decent, but I would feel more comfortable with something that does a bit more "thinking" for me. I know that's probably anathema to many VU members, or even vapers in general, but it is what it is, I suppose.

Hell, I've been automating everything in my house from cleaning to aquaponics in order to retain some semblance of self sufficiency! I've figured out that if I can put that effort into the behind the scenes operations, I meet with less failure than if I need to do it on the spot. Because frequently, I'm just not well enough to do so and its not up to me when that happens. When things get really bad is when I appreciate the vaping the most.

I'm thankful for titanium as well. I'd be more thankful for superhuman bionics though

 

[Deucesjack]

that may be very true... if the price drops to a point that I'm ready to make a personal gambel I may do so. hell, you know I like to ust have shit. hahah

I cant help but feel that for a person looking for 1 mod to hold through us figuring out the fda regs, that something with less tech would be better.

I'm also not a fan of "insane vape mode" - it makes me feel like donetello the nina turtle is trapped In my mod. lmao

Tbh, I don't know anyone that uses that menu. Most of us just put it in xxx mode adjust the FSK Curve and vape.

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[BigNasty]

I got a g2 coming, if you do not mind silver they can be had for under 75.
Got a le80 for back up of a back up and the sig 150 is the work horse.

 

[Tuluum]

I do love my RX200s, but with all the possible 510 issues, I won't be buying another one. On the other hand, if I was handy with a soldering iron I'd probably go for it and buy some new 510s from KP just in case!

I have a couple of Reos that should be good for a good number of years (there's a video somewhere showing some major abuse and their survival LOL) and a mech box I'll use if I'm desperate. But I have a whole bunch of unused mods that I guess I'll keep stashed in a drawer.

The 510 issues have made me a bit leery about settling on the RX as my final choice.

You mention extra 510s from KP, do you mean from Kidney Puncher?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

So, I don't think anyone really knows how all these ridiculous regulations (perhaps prohibition is more apt) will actually turn out.. But I'd like to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

My current mod is the Innokin Cortex, which I absolutely love. All of its quirks just work with my uber-wonky brain. I'm not so much interested in "replacing" it, more expanding my opportunities. It also has some items of concern, such as the internal battery.

Anyway, I am trying to find a mod that will cover all bases possible. The issue is my budget and unique personal requirements. I am looking at an absolute max of $100, but preferably around $50.

I have some very serious health issues (main one being a severely broken spine that continues to break due to bone metabolism disorder), so dedicating more funds is just not possible. As it is, I will be relying on money I will hopefully be receiving for my birthday!

I would like it to be as future proofed as possible. Both for vapocalypse reasons, and so that it could still go to help someone else should I pass away. I have no issue buying used.

As a programmer & electrical engineer, I love the ability to truly customize the experience with DNA200. I thought about doing a DIY mod with the board, but its not nearly as cost effective as id like. I *really* want that tinkering ability, but it may just not be the cards I'm dealt.

I rarely find myself going over 40 watts in any build, but I'm still hoping for a mod that is capable of at least 100 watts.

At this point, I am mainly looking at the RX200s, hcigar vt133 (I think I've seen it for $99, but with batteries, etc. its a long shot), Snow Wolf, and the cheaper Vapor Flasks (love that form factor!). I'm definitely open to others though. I like the Hohm series, but I think it'd have to be used to make it feasible.

I figure that I would be happy with any of them, but given the circumstances (both personal and in the vape market), I felt it would be wise to get more input from people who have actually used one or more of these devices, as I might only get one shot to get it right.

I also need it to be sturdy and survive drops, since I can occasionally have seizures and may drop the mod. I have yet to find anyone that tests dropping it intentionally!

Sooo, first, sorry for the absolute book of a post (seriously)! I couldnt figure out how to get all that info in more efficiently..

But, if you could only have one of these devices, forevermore, which would it be? And with my personal needs considered, would you still pick the same one?

First off welcome to VU.

I see you mentioned the VT133. I personally think it's a great mod. As was already mentioned Vape NW has it on sale and with the 20% code it's now $79.99 shipped. The code is: 20%off4thJuly

There is also a thread here on it full of very helpful people. Good luck! I hope you find what you are looking for.
HCIGAR VT133 Dual 18650 DNA200

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Tuluum]

I got a g2 coming, if you do not mind silver they can be had for under 75.
Got a le80 for back up of a back up and the sig 150 is the work horse.

I was looking into the Hohm Tech stuff because of this thread and came across this:

http://vapingcheap.com/hohm-wrecker-151w/

No idea if that's legit, but that is incredibly tempting..

ETA: doesn't seem to work when trying to apply it in cart. Ah well

 

[Tuluum]

First off welcome to VU.

I see you mentioned the VT133. I personally think it's a great mod. As was already mentioned Vape NW has it on sale and with the 20% code it's now $79.99 shipped. The code is: 20%off4thJuly

There is also a thread here on it full of very helpful people. Good luck! I hope you find what you are looking for.
HCIGAR VT133 Dual 18650 DNA200

Cheers,
Steve

Thank You!

Due to circumstances, I wont be able to take advantage of any holiday sales. I'm still a few weeks out from a purchase.

I have been reading through that thread It does make me a bit nervous that its so much cheaper than any other DNA200. Do you feel its just a good deal or that they skimped a bit on quality (or a bit of both)?

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Hmmm.. Thank you for introducing me to the OKL2-T/20. I had heard of the HexOhm, but hadn't looked into it too much.

It looks like I can get the board for around $13 and I think I even have all of the other parts necessary to make a mod just lying around. Well, might need to get a 510 base, but that shouldn't be too hard.

I'm curious if I could integrate something like a beaglebone. Its probably overkill, but at the same time, it might open up some really interesting possibilities. Ya got me thinking now I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it for my main device right off the bat, but it could be a great project. I can only work 5-10 minutes at a time and only when I'm feeling OK, but there wouldn't be any rush.

Those mods do look pretty decent, but I would feel more comfortable with something that does a bit more "thinking" for me. I know that's probably anathema to many VU members, or even vapers in general, but it is what it is, I suppose.

Hell, I've been automating everything in my house from cleaning to aquaponics in order to retain some semblance of self sufficiency! I've figured out that if I can put that effort into the behind the scenes operations, I meet with less failure than if I need to do it on the spot. Because frequently, I'm just not well enough to do so and its not up to me when that happens. When things get really bad is when I appreciate the vaping the most.

I'm thankful for titanium as well. I'd be more thankful for superhuman bionics though

mammoth mods, fatdaddy and varitube will have any parts that you don't. 6-7 bucks for a good spring loaded 510 and 4-5 bucks for a sled, a good horn switch and youre about done.
i have a few of okl, dna 30 and dna 40 boards on ice myself. its the vape euivilent of the doomsday seedbank. lmao
let alone there is something rewarding about building your own mod

 

[Deucesjack]

I was looking into the Hohm Tech stuff because of this thread and came across this:

http://vapingcheap.com/hohm-wrecker-151w/

No idea if that's legit, but that is incredibly tempting..

ETA: doesn't seem to work when trying to apply it in cart. Ah well

Yeah but that's the original it's not a G2. The original is not upgradeable. Still a great deal but for the few dollars more I'd go with the G2.

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[Wingsfan0310]

Thank You!

Due to circumstances, I wont be able to take advantage of any holiday sales. I'm still a few weeks out from a purchase.

I have been reading through that thread It does make me a bit nervous that its so much cheaper than any other DNA200. Do you feel its just a good deal or that they skimped a bit on quality (or a bit of both)?

You are welcome. I feel like it's an incredible deal. Ecig put it on a crazy deal and now I think people expect it for that price. If you check out the thread a lot of people have bought more after the first one, including me. I have quite a few DNA200 mods (9) and the VT133's are my most used ones. It's very comfortable in hand, gets great battery life, and works as good as any of my other DNA200 mods. I consider it a best buy!

Cheers,
Steve

 

[AmandaD]

The 510 issues have made me a bit leery about settling on the RX as my final choice.

You mention extra 510s from KP, do you mean from Kidney Puncher?

Yes, someone posted a link the other day - let me see if I can find them - it was the V2

Oops, it was Varitube, not KP: http://www.varitube.com/VT-510-V2-Connector--Self-adjusting-Center-Pin_p_364.html

 

[Tuluum]

Yeah but that's the original it's not a G2. The original is not upgradeable. Still a great deal but for the few dollars more I'd go with the G2.

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Derp

You are totally correct! And the coupon code WRECKER130OFF does indeed work if you add the correct item to the cart. The original isn't in the running for me, but that's definitely a good deal.

 

[Tuluum]

mammoth mods, fatdaddy and varitube will have any parts that you don't. 6-7 bucks for a good spring loaded 510 and 4-5 bucks for a sled, a good horn switch and youre about done.
i have a few of okl, dna 30 and dna 40 boards on ice myself. its the vape euivilent of the doomsday seedbank. lmao
let alone there is something rewarding about building your own mod

Awesome, thank you for those vendors!

I generally prefer DIY in principle, but for me, it needs to be a side project rather than something ill need on a daily basis.

Well, at least until its done and completely reliable. Which can take a huge amount of time for me!

 

[Tuluum]

You are welcome. I feel like it's an incredible deal. Ecig put it on a crazy deal and now I think people expect it for that price. If you check out the thread a lot of people have bought more after the first one, including me. I have quite a few DNA200 mods (9) and the VT133's are my most used ones. It's very comfortable in hand, gets great battery life, and works as good as any of my other DNA200 mods. I consider it a best buy!

Cheers,
Steve

That definitely starts to put the VT133 into a strong position. I've still got a few weeks, so I'll be keeping an eye on that thread for any possible issues that may crop up.

 

[BigNasty]

Ecig.com if you can hack silver they are 73. Toss in something small and bob's your uncle 75ish with supplies.

 

[Tuluum]

Yes, someone posted a link the other day - let me see if I can find them - it was the V2

Oops, it was Varitube, not KP: http://www.varitube.com/VT-510-V2-Connector--Self-adjusting-Center-Pin_p_364.html

Awesome

Thank you for that direct link and the vendor. Trying to google "510" wasn't exactly going well! Brain is starting to shut down for the day

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Awesome, thank you for those vendors!

I generally prefer DIY in principle, but for me, it needs to be a side project rather than something ill need on a daily basis.

Well, at least until its done and completely reliable. Which can take a huge amount of time for me!

https://www.massive-mods.com/
http://fatdaddyvapes.com/index.html
http://www.varitube.com/
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/diymodshop
http://www.madvapes.com/mod-builder-parts.html
https://www.diyboxmodsupply.com/product-category/enclosures/
heres a little tutorial too
http://shop.findmyvapes.com/products/diy-okl-t20-box-mod-kit

if shit goes way south, knowing how to do this, will be priceless.

and here you can buy complete kits with everything you need.
https://nonameboxmods.com/index.php?route=common/home

 

[Tuluum]

https://www.massive-mods.com/
http://fatdaddyvapes.com/index.html
http://www.varitube.com/
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/diymodshop
http://www.madvapes.com/mod-builder-parts.html
https://www.diyboxmodsupply.com/product-category/enclosures/
heres a little tutorial too
http://shop.findmyvapes.com/products/diy-okl-t20-box-mod-kit

if shit goes way south, knowing how to do this, will be priceless.

and here you can buy complete kits with everything you need.
https://nonameboxmods.com/index.php?route=common/home

Epic, thanks for that!

At this point, I am leaning most towards the VT133. I do have some concerns about build quality, but the reality is that we are essentially paying $20 for a functioning mod, beyond the cost of the DNA board itself ($80). On sale for $79.99, its a no-brainer, as we can get a pre-assembled, functioning mod for a penny less than the DNA board itself. A board that can then be installed in anything desired, and if I understand correctly, one could even make a DIY triple 18650 with it to achieve 200 watts.

I always find the most useful threads come to a conclusion with the reasoning outlined, so I'm going to try to do that. I know I'm verbose, but I have been helped so much by similar threads id like to pass it on.

The Hohm Tech devices seem nice, with a great amount of potential, but I'm not convinced that potential has been even close to fully realized. It enables a lot of tinkering, however most of it seems to be between a functioning and a non-functioning device. On top of that, I'm just not sure that kanthal temp control is particularly important or needed with other wire options on the market. If I am honest, the menu titles make me cringe as well.

Compared to the DNA, which seems more focused on fine tuning the experience through software. I think the software suite really sets it apart, as making such in depth adjustments solely through the device can't be as efficient inherently (keyboard vs a few buttons).

The cheaper devices, such as the RX200, are still on the table but without the customization offered by the escribe software, options are more limited. Devices like the snow wolf are a bit of a compromise between the two worlds, and as such, have fallen to the back of the pack (pun intended). As an honorable mention, the Sigelei 213 is one of the best looking mods I've seen, with great functionality on paper, but real world use seems to have some major issues for some users.

As I've said, I still have some weeks before a final decision is made and ill be doing research the whole time.

I think that the mech mod suggestions should be taken very seriously by any "typical" vaper. However, in situations like mine, with my experience, I still feel these other options come out on top.

 

[Deucesjack]

Epic, thanks for that!

At this point, I am leaning most towards the VT133. I do have some concerns about build quality, but the reality is that we are essentially paying $20 for a functioning mod, beyond the cost of the DNA board itself ($80). On sale for $79.99, its a no-brainer, as we can get a pre-assembled, functioning mod for a penny less than the DNA board itself. A board that can then be installed in anything desired, and if I understand correctly, one could even make a DIY triple 18650 with it to achieve 200 watts.

I always find the most useful threads come to a conclusion with the reasoning outlined, so I'm going to try to do that. I know I'm verbose, but I have been helped so much by similar threads id like to pass it on.

The Hohm Tech devices seem nice, with a great amount of potential, but I'm not convinced that potential has been even close to fully realized. It enables a lot of tinkering, however most of it seems to be between a functioning and a non-functioning device. On top of that, I'm just not sure that kanthal temp control is particularly important or needed with other wire options on the market. If I am honest, the menu titles make me cringe as well.

Compared to the DNA, which seems more focused on fine tuning the experience through software. I think the software suite really sets it apart, as making such in depth adjustments solely through the device can't be as efficient inherently (keyboard vs a few buttons).

The cheaper devices, such as the RX200, are still on the table but without the customization offered by the escribe software, options are more limited. Devices like the snow wolf are a bit of a compromise between the two worlds, and as such, have fallen to the back of the pack (pun intended).

As I've said, I still have some weeks before a final decision is made and ill be doing research the whole time.

I think that the mech mod suggestions should be taken very seriously by any "typical" vaper. However, in situations like mine, with my experience, I still feel these other options come out on top.

As far as the VT133 goes. Build Quality is not an issue. I have 2 and they both work flawlessly. To date one of my favorite mods.

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[f1r3b1rd]

Epic, thanks for that!

At this point, I am leaning most towards the VT133. I do have some concerns about build quality, but the reality is that we are essentially paying $20 for a functioning mod, beyond the cost of the DNA board itself ($80). On sale for $79.99, its a no-brainer, as we can get a pre-assembled, functioning mod for a penny less than the DNA board itself. A board that can then be installed in anything desired, and if I understand correctly, one could even make a DIY triple 18650 with it to achieve 200 watts.

I always find the most useful threads come to a conclusion with the reasoning outlined, so I'm going to try to do that. I know I'm verbose, but I have been helped so much by similar threads id like to pass it on.

The Hohm Tech devices seem nice, with a great amount of potential, but I'm not convinced that potential has been even close to fully realized. It enables a lot of tinkering, however most of it seems to be between a functioning and a non-functioning device. On top of that, I'm just not sure that kanthal temp control is particularly important or needed with other wire options on the market. If I am honest, the menu titles make me cringe as well.

Compared to the DNA, which seems more focused on fine tuning the experience through software. I think the software suite really sets it apart, as making such in depth adjustments solely through the device can't be as efficient inherently (keyboard vs a few buttons).

The cheaper devices, such as the RX200, are still on the table but without the customization offered by the escribe software, options are more limited. Devices like the snow wolf are a bit of a compromise between the two worlds, and as such, have fallen to the back of the pack (pun intended).

As I've said, I still have some weeks before a final decision is made and ill be doing research the whole time.

I think that the mech mod suggestions should be taken very seriously by any "typical" vaper. However, in situations like mine, with my experience, I still feel these other options come out on top.

Honestly ... Youll love the vt133, I have one, and the quality is quite impressive for a mod of its price range. I have zero regrets in the purchase st all. I would suggest that anyone get a decent inexpensive mechanical if for no other reason to have one, should the worst happen with the fda.
Heres An owner's thread
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/hcigar-vt133-dual-18650-dna200.171476/

 

[BigNasty]

Epic, thanks for that!

At this point, I am leaning most towards the VT133. I do have some concerns about build quality, but the reality is that we are essentially paying $20 for a functioning mod, beyond the cost of the DNA board itself ($80). On sale for $79.99, its a no-brainer, as we can get a pre-assembled, functioning mod for a penny less than the DNA board itself. A board that can then be installed in anything desired, and if I understand correctly, one could even make a DIY triple 18650 with it to achieve 200 watts.

I always find the most useful threads come to a conclusion with the reasoning outlined, so I'm going to try to do that. I know I'm verbose, but I have been helped so much by similar threads id like to pass it on.

The Hohm Tech devices seem nice, with a great amount of potential, but I'm not convinced that potential has been even close to fully realized. It enables a lot of tinkering, however most of it seems to be between a functioning and a non-functioning device. On top of that, I'm just not sure that kanthal temp control is particularly important or needed with other wire options on the market. If I am honest, the menu titles make me cringe as well.

Compared to the DNA, which seems more focused on fine tuning the experience through software. I think the software suite really sets it apart, as making such in depth adjustments solely through the device can't be as efficient inherently (keyboard vs a few buttons).

The cheaper devices, such as the RX200, are still on the table but without the customization offered by the escribe software, options are more limited. Devices like the snow wolf are a bit of a compromise between the two worlds, and as such, have fallen to the back of the pack (pun intended). As an honorable mention, the Sigelei 213 is one of the best looking mods I've seen, with great functionality on paper, but real world use seems to have some major issues for some users.

As I've said, I still have some weeks before a final decision is made and ill be doing research the whole time.

I think that the mech mod suggestions should be taken very seriously by any "typical" vaper. However, in situations like mine, with my experience, I still feel these other options come out on top.

I agree one needs to weight what is important to them vape gear wise.
The only reason I went the g2 route is the kanthal temp control option. I like to play with stupid low builds but do not like the extra heat generated by them pushing the chip so hard on the sig.
Form factor, customer service and quality are also big up there on my list, also sw future proofing is another.

Glad you went the route you did and hope you enjoy the hell out of it.

 

[Tuluum]

As far as the VT133 goes. Build Quality is not an issue. I have 2 and they both work flawlessly. To date one of my favorite mods.

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Well, I'm talking about things like the interior of the battery door being unfinished and some slight inconsistencies in case alignment.

Rather minor issues, honestly, but at the price of $99.99.. almost completely negligible. At the sales price of $79.99? It seems like one of, if not *the* best deals on the mod market.

I mean, seriously, that's cheaper than we can get the DNA board itself. By a single penny, but still! That's a hell of a deal in any market. It could be enclosed in cardboard, and I'd still struggle to call it anything other than a stellar deal.

 

[Tuluum]

Honestly ... Youll love the vt133, I have one, and the quality is quite impressive for a mod of its price range. I have zero regrets in the purchase st all. I would suggest that anyone get a decent inexpensive mechanical if for no other reason to have one, should the worst happen with the fda.
Heres An owner's thread
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/hcigar-vt133-dual-18650-dna200.171476/

Yeah, I have been strongly considering a mech mod as well. Its all money dependent though, the VT133 is going to be stretching it as is. I might not even be able to get it, but we will see. After so many years, I have learned to be content with pretty severe limitations across the board. I don't think that's a bad thing

Id be lying if I said I wasn't a bit envious of people with a dozen mods though ;P Most seem appreciative of their blessings (or whatever ya want to call it), so its all good.

 

[BigNasty]

Yeah, I have been strongly considering a mech mod as well. Its all money dependent though, the VT133 is going to be stretching it as is. I might not even be able to get it, but we will see. After so many years, I have learned to be content with pretty severe limitations across the board. I don't think that's a bad thing

Id be lying if I said I wasn't a bit envious of people with a dozen mods though ;P Most seem appreciative of their blessings (or whatever ya want to call it), so its all good.

Enter contests here when you can.
Hell that is the only way I got to upgrade my mom from MVPS and a sorry ass protank that had seen better days.
She loves her Kanger set up, which is now her back up mod and she adopted my Balrog which I won and was my back up.

 

[Tuluum]

I agree one needs to weight what is important to them vape gear wise.
The only reason I went the g2 route is the kanthal temp control option. I like to play with stupid low builds but do not like the extra heat generated by them pushing the chip so hard on the sig.
Form factor, customer service and quality are also big up there on my list, also sw future proofing is another.

Glad you went the route you did and hope you enjoy the hell out of it.

All things considered, I am EXTREMELY interested to see where the FSK chip goes. I'm going to really be keeping an eye on it.

I think that if they add a software suite, and allow changing the menu titles, they will really open up their market. From what I understand, this may currently be in the works already.

At worst, as the FSK advances, it should force other manufacturers to up their game. If the damn government doesn't screw everything up, in a couple years the vape market may very well be a marvel of innovation and creativity far beyond what it is currently. That's a thrilling prospect!

 

[Tuluum]

Enter contests here when you can.
Hell that is the only way I got to upgrade my mom from MVPS and a sorry ass protank that had seen better days.
She loves her Kanger set up, which is now her back up mod and she adopted my Balrog which I won and was my back up.

This is why these threads can be so amazing. For as obvious as it is, I had never considered the contests. I've never won one, with anything lol but there is always that chance, and literally no reason not to try.

Gonna start searching for those for the VT133 right now

 

[BigNasty]

All things considered, I am EXTREMELY interested to see where the FSK chip goes. I'm going to really be keeping an eye on it.

I think that if they add a software suite, and allow changing the menu titles, they will really open up their market. From what I understand, this may currently be in the works already.

At worst, as the FSK advances, it should force other manufacturers to up their game. If the damn government doesn't screw everything up, in a couple years the vape market may very well be a marvel of innovation and creativity far beyond what it is currently. That's a thrilling prospect!

At this point I am just girding myself and my mom for the worst. expect 3-5 years on the gear and nic stored and ordered to weather us through the storm.
Only need to pick her up another subtank or 2 call it good.

 

[BigNasty]

@Tuluum FYI gearbest is holding a contest for a mod. Get over there it can;t hurt.

 

[Tuluum]

@Tuluum FYI gearbest is holding a contest for a mod. Get over there it can;t hurt.

Thank you for that. I hadn't seen the contest section before.. I just entered into every one

 

[Venom Ballistics]

I transitioned entirely over to mech mods.
No power loss to solid state devices. If the battery can give me 100 watts, that's what will be at the atty
Reliability ... I had to clean the contacts a few times over the past year and a half.
Compact. It's just not going to get any smaller than a mech without making concessions on power or capacity.
While the regulated mods have put in a decent show, I don't think they can hold up like a mech. It's not 200w at a 50% duty cycle, as one might expect from a high power class AB amplifier. It's well north of 70% , right on up to soul kissing 100%. That's as brutal as you can get on a transistor.
It can't fail if it's not there.
What's worth greater consideration than your mod is juice.
If you don't mix your own, your gear won't matter.

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