Why are y'all "Hoarding" should I be stocking up for the Zombie Apocolypse?

[cynkrzy]

I see references in threads to people stocking up on coils and juice and such. "Hoarding"!
Is there a reason other that just liking "Vapemail" ?

I've read about FDA regulation pending, and the outrageous tax in PA. But short of that are there other reasons ?

 

[ej1024]

It's both
We all love VAPEMAIL and hoarding


VAPE ON

 

[cynkrzy]

So no need to rent a storage locker and fill it with Juice and Coils then --- unless of course I find a great deal ?
Traded one addiction for another and would hate to think I'd be forced back to the former by stupid politicians.

 

[ej1024]

So no need to rent a storage locker and fill it with Juice and Coils then --- unless of course I find a great deal ?
Traded one addiction for another and would hate to think I'd be forced back to the former by stupid politicians.

That's up to you, I myself hoarded shit that will last me for a long time..
JOOZE
Tanks
Mods
Batteries
Chargers
Wires
Cotton
Every time I see a very good deal, I buy it, I just don't buy stuff cuz I like it!! It has to be A NEED... And it has to be vapocalyypse proof


VAPE ON

 

[Countrypami]

I see references in threads to people stocking up on coils and juice and such. "Hoarding"!
Is there a reason other that just liking "Vapemail" ?

I've read about FDA regulation pending, and the outrageous tax in PA. But short of that are there other reasons ?

Both... I won't be the one without everything I need when the shit really hits the fan. The way things are going now, that's not too far off. Yes we will have access to flavorings, PG, VG... but if a hardware company decides not to proceed through the pmta for certain items, then they will no longer be available to us. I don't think it has so much to do with the " vape-apocalypse" as it does more a concern of availability.

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[cynkrzy]

Thanks, Guess I better stock up on atomizer's for my favorite tanks at a bare minimum.

 

[Tuluum]

I think that the toughest things may end up being atomizers, mods, and juice.

Things like wire, cotton, batteries, etc. ARE included in the BS regulations, but as other industries start to realize how they are impacted I expect massive pushback. This will likely result in trashing these parts of the legislation (best case) or introducing loopholes that offer easy workarounds. Items that are clearly vape-specific may not have similar luxury.

So, my own focus has been on atomizers, juice, and mods (in order of priority). I suspect prices on everything will increase, at least temporarily.

 

[cynkrzy]

Fear Mongering aside - I just ordered a New Crown II tank and a bunch of atomizer's for it and my Cleito tank.

 

[JuicyLucy]

On July 26 this goes into effect: Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015

I was on steam engine the other day and one of the ads for an online juice vendor said something like "Worried about FDA deeming regs? Don't worry, we'll always be here for you! We are prepared to be compliant and remain open"

Out of curiosity I clicked on the ad. Before getting to the main page a huge popup jumps out saying "sorry, we can no longer sell e juice to clients in Indiana"

A vape site in Utah stated it cannot sell any product through the mail to addresses in Utah.

Arkansas has laws very repressive towards online vendors. Another member here on VU who lives there said about half the online vendors are refusing to sell to him.

Calif. and Hawaii have raised the vaping age to 21.

Texas has stringent ID laws that also apply to online sales. I tried to buy a mod from a TX site awhile back - they wanted a copy of my ID PLUS the last four digits of my SSN for a simple online sale of one mod. I told them to pound sand.

The new Pennsylvania tax on vape gear (40%) goes after vapers who buy online to avoid the tax and places hefty fines similar to those who get caught with illegal drugs such as ******. It goes into effect Oct. 1.

My home state of Alaska had a bill pending all year that would have put a 100% tax on all vape products - juice, mods, atomizers, drip tips, coils, cigalikes, you name it, they covered it. (it is still pending until the next legislative session) One of the boroughs here already has a 55% tax on the wholesale price on all vape products.

The Jenkins Act (also known as P.A.C.T.) will likely be slightly modified to include vape gear because the deeming regs. The Jenkins Act is the mechanism used by states to collect tobacco tax on cigarettes bought in states or from Indian reservations with lower tax than the buyers home state. It is enforced by the ATF and has teeth. I know this because I have friends who received tax bills from the state when they bought tobacco online.

I'm probably missing numerous examples of vape-repressive laws either in effect or pending on the state level all over the U.S.

 

[Time]

I stocked up to save money. Regardless of what is approved or not by the FDA, the States are implementing hefty sin tax and vendors/manufacturers will have higher operating costs to meet regulation compliance. This all means higher costs to appease the government.

Fuck the governments. I won't be paying the state to vape via tax and I won't be spending more to appease regulators. I'm protesting by keeping my money. Spending a little now saves me from giving money to the government later. And I can vape all I want. Fuck 'em.

 

[JuicyLucy]

I stocked up to save money. Regardless of what is approved or not by the FDA, the States are implementing hefty sin tax and vendors/manufacturers will have higher operating costs to meet regulation compliance. This all means higher costs to appease the government.

Fuck the governments. I won't be paying the state to vape via tax and I won't be spending more to appease regulators. I'm protesting by keeping my money. Spending a little now saves me from giving money to the government later. And I can vape all I want. Fuck 'em.

Dam bippy!

 

[cynkrzy]

Guess I don't need to ask how y'all really feel! However I share your viewpoints.

Hi my name is "Cyn~" I am a horder. As of about 20 minutes ago!

 

[JuicyLucy]

Guess I don't need to ask how y'all really feel! However I share your viewpoints.

Hi my name is "Cyn~" I am a horder. As of about 20 minutes ago!

I prefer "prepper"

 

[gingerbread]

I am not hoarding or anything else for that matter. I live in the UK, so we are OK for now

 

[Countrypami]

I prefer "prepper"

As in DoomsDay?... lol

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[MagicJosh]

People are scared they wont be allowed buy their favorite items when August 8th comes along.

 

[anen]

My 14yo AMERICAN Pit Bull Terries has been hoarding assault rifles, ammo, and high capacity magazines for vapocalypse that's she believes is eminent. Every time I look at her with "wtf.. Why do you need all that " expression on my face, she replies with :" Fuck you" and goes back to digging.
Should I be concerned????

 

[AndriaD]

My 14yo AMERICAN Pit Bull Terries has been hoarding assault rifles, ammo, and high capacity magazines for vapocalypse that's she believes is eminent. Every time I look at her with "wtf.. Why do you need all that " expression on my face, she replies with :" Fuck you" and goes back to digging.
Should I be concerned????

Pit Bulls always look like "fuck you", that's pretty normal.

Andria

 

[inspects]

On August 8th vape gear and all related items become Tobacco Products. Tobacco products are taxed, not only federally but by states too. Who knows what may happen after the 8th. The feds can just make arbitrary rules at a whim, and potentially make it a bitch to buy vape products from another state.

I'd rather be stocked up rather than say oh shit, I should have. I don't trust our government.

 

[anen]

Thank you for kind relief AndriaD ....it would be terrible if she creates some kind of,.. I don't know,.. Maybe " magnetic anomaly" with all that steel in the ground. I would hate to see those black streamlined choppers landing in the woods by accident

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you for kind relief AndriaD ....it would be terrible if she creates some kind of,.. I don't know,.. Maybe " magnetic anomaly" with all that steel in the ground. I would hate to see those black streamlined choppers landing in the woods by accident

Well, who knows... I never knew that Pit Bulls needed weapons... they've got teeth, and they KNOW how to use 'em!


Andria

 

[cynkrzy]

Y'all are cracking me up, unfortunately it doesn't seem a laughing matter.

WTF happened to common sense and the idea that legislation should be derived from fact and the best interests of the public, instead of the best interests of the legislators.

 

[anen]

I think that "interest of the public" took a back seat somewhere in early 50's when majority of people realized that "American Dream" is just a dream, so fuckers came out of the closet with "we run the show, and you do what we say" approach.

 

[JuicyLucy]

This is catching a lot of juice sellers flat-footed apparently. The gov said shops could sell out juice inventory, now they say they can't.


Effective July 26, Any Juice Sold in Non Compliant Container Prohibited

 

[inspects]

This is catching a lot of juice sellers flat-footed apparently. The gov said shops could sell out juice inventor, now they say they can't.


Effective July 26, Any Juice Sold in Non Compliant Container Prohibited

Like I noted, they can just make up rules as they desire, after the 8th I'd expect more out of the blue regulations.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Like I noted, they can just make up rules as they desire, after the 8th I'd expect more out of the blue regulations.

The deeming regs are written so contradictory and often broadly or vaguely they can be interpreted any way the FDA pleases

 

[AndriaD]

Y'all are cracking me up, unfortunately it doesn't seem a laughing matter.

WTF happened to common sense and the idea that legislation should be derived from fact and the best interests of the public, instead of the best interests of the legislators.

That stopped when the moneyed (corporate) interests started paying the lawmakers more than the lawmakers' stated salary -- now the lawmakers work for the corporations, not the public. Just ask the Supreme Court, who thinks a corporation is the same as a person.

Andria

 

[mikeyboy74]

Stocking up on coils, and sticking with tanks that have been out awhile like the Atlantis compatibles, Arctic, and tfv4. Trying Coil Art and Vaperwerx to see if they might outlast and outperform the original coils. God knows about soon trying to find parts or coils for something now being released 2 weeks before August 8th.

Also getting more serious about building, and have a Limitless Plus on the way. My other RTA's and RDA's are pretty dated, not worth the bother, and I just can't work dripping into my lifestyle.