Evic Vtwo mini vs SMY SDNA 75

[mchaggis79]

Hi folks in the market for a new single 18650 battery mod and in another post these two were the ones I narrowed my search down to, but i'm not sure which to get. I had a vaporshark rdna 40 and absolutely LOVED that mod. If i had another 100 some odd dollars to replace it I would in a heartbeat. It took a beating with that rubber case on it and was just such a convenient mod to have and even after the bumps and scrapes from getting in and out of my pocket, shaking around in the front pocket of a forklift, and just every day use and whatnot it still worked just as good after a year as it did the day I got it. Sadly I do not have another $100 some odd amount to replace it, but because the SDNA has a DNA chip I'm really swaying towards that one. Plus someone linked me to it on sale for $50 at a website I can't recall off the top of my head. So which should I get? I know the Vtwo mini has a case that comes with it which having a case is almost a necessity for me with my lifestyle, but I want to know which is going to last longer? I don't want to replace anything half a year down the line, I simply don't have that kind of money to be throwing around. Thank you guys

edit: a third option is a friend of mine is willing to sell me his vaporshark rdna40 and i'm really thinking about doing that and just getting a case for it. We haven't worked out a price yet, but this is an option as well.

 

[Ben-Rod]

Really no decision here bud...lol...I would go with the SMY dna 75 all day for 50 bucks...If you had just a bit more coin ecig.com has the Hcigar dna 133 for 88 bucks...Yes it's a two battery mod but you'll have much better batter life...

The Evic mini two is a great little mod too but not in the same league as the dna chip mods....

 

[mchaggis79]

Really no decision here bud...lol...I would go with the SMY dna 75 all day for 50 bucks...If you had just a bit more coin ecig.com has the Hcigar dna 133 for 88 bucks...Yes it's a two battery mod but you'll have much better batter life...

The Evic mini two is a great little mod too but not in the same league as the dna chip mods....

That's kinda what I was thinking. Thanks

 

[SHOUTCAST]

I actually think the joyetech boards are much better in temp control of SS 316.. the dna chips don't do ss temp very well.. I hear they do ss304 much better but if your main wire is ss316 I personally would go for the evic.. I own the dna75 and am not that impressed in fact I think the tech is getting kinda old.. I mean hell look at their screen it looks like something out of 2015..

 

[BuryTheSun]

I think the Innokin cool fire 4 18650 is one of the best single battery mods out right now. The board they're using is excellent on it.

 

[SHOUTCAST]

I think the Innokin cool fire 4 18650 is one of the best single battery mods out right now. The board they're using is excellent on it.

I heard that too.. I also hear that Innokin does SS temp control amazingly well... I have been so tempted to buy it.. I just have so many mods already.. I have to draw the line somewhere.. Don't I?

 

[mchaggis79]

I only use kanthal. Either twisted 28 gauge or 26 gauge depending on the atty so stuff to do with nickel, titanium, or ss is pretty irrelevant for me. The dna40 worked flawlessly for me in that regard.

 

[Ben-Rod]

Well if your not using temp control your not getting the full benefit of the dna board imo...

 

[SHOUTCAST]

I would recommend something like this for you https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...hentic-eleaf-ipower-80w-5000mah-tc-vw-apv-mod

 

[SHOUTCAST]

I only use kanthal. Either twisted 28 gauge or 26 gauge depending on the atty so stuff to do with nickel, titanium, or ss is pretty irrelevant for me. The dna40 worked flawlessly for me in that regard.

if you have no interest in temp then any mod is going to be find.. The different quality in the mods is about how well they work in temp control and build quality.. almost all of them work great in power mode.. If all you care about is power mode I would just buy what is most eye appealing to you or what has the best battery life.. above is a pretty nice mod.. it has a really big battery life in a somewhat small package.

 

[skt239]

I actually think the joyetech boards are much better in temp control of SS 316.. the dna chips don't do ss temp very well.. I hear they do ss304 much better but if your main wire is ss316 I personally would go for the evic.. I own the dna75 and am not that impressed in fact I think the tech is getting kinda old.. I mean hell look at their screen it looks like something out of 2015..

I have to disagree. While the Evic does do SS TC well, it's not consistent like the DNA. Depending on my build, I run my Evic anywhere between 420-500 degrees, while on my DNA I never need to exceed 420 degrees but usually stay at 400. That gives me a warm, dense vape that is nearly indistinguishable from non TC.

 

[SHOUTCAST]

I have to disagree. While the Evic does do SS TC well, it's not consistent like the DNA. Depending on my build, I run my Evic anywhere between 420-500 degrees, while on my DNA I never need to exceed 420 degrees but usually stay at 400. That gives me a warm, dense vape that is nearly indistinguishable from non TC.

I def don't have the same experience as you.. DNA is great for temp control just not 316. I own 3 DNA devices two 200 and one 75.. Now don't get me wrong I love them but they just don't vape 316 well. Now I have tried every setting on the internet to try to get it to work and in that journey for searching for the answer I learned that the DNA just does not vape well with 316L. IT is a common problem and everyone said to switch to 304 for it is way better and works amazingly.. someday I will have to try that. But my cuboid and istick 100tc both do a better job with 316L.. It is funny cause I have the exact opposite experience as you. on the joyetech i have my temp at 400-420 and on the dna's I need to put the temp as high as 500-550. Why the hell did my font change!!!

 

[skt239]

I def don't have the same experience as you.. DNA is great for temp control just not 316. I own 3 DNA devices two 200 and one 75.. Now don't get me wrong I love them but they just don't vape 316 well. Now I have tried every setting on the internet to try to get it to work and in that journey for searching for the answer I learned that the DNA just does not vape well with 316L. IT is a common problem and everyone said to switch to 304 for it is way better and works amazingly.. someday I will have to try that. But my cuboid and istick 100tc both do a better job with 316L.. It is funny cause I have the exact opposite experience as you. on the joyetech i have my temp at 400-420 and on the dna's I need to put the temp as high as 500-550. Why the hell did my font change!!!

Ha! Very interesting. I only have one DNA, the vaporshark DNA 200 but I'm seriously considering the same mod as the OP, provided its still in stock at the $50 price tag when my wife doles out my spendin' shekels come Friday. I'll be interested to see if there is a variance. You are correct regarding 316L, from what I've read it's the hardest of the SS wires to get working in TC... Are you using the cuboid with the pre-set for 316L or TCR?

 

[UncleRJ]

IMHO, based on the SMY 60 TC mod I would go for the 75 Watt upgrade.

Or if you can live with 60 watts (I rarely go past 35 anyway) you should be able to find some real bargains.

I have had my 60 watt version for about 6 months and I am using it as I write this.

The menu system is very easy to operate and has a nice time and date feature along with the usual.

The display is easy to see unless you are in very bright sunlight.

And it will take a licking! Well my 60 Watt version has on numerous occasions.

The worst was when I forgot it was on my lap when I got out of my car.

It fell about 2-1/2", landed in my gravel driveway and then bounced sans cover into a muddy puddle of water.

I fished it out of the "Drink", found the cover, went into the house, rinsed the crud off, put it into a bag of rice for two days.

Still fired right up!

On the downside, it is not a true Temp Control mod with a max of 320 deg.

But if you use it in wattage mode it is a winner!

 

[mchaggis79]

Yea I've decided on the SMY SDNA. Particularly cause now that I think about it I did use tc on my rdna. I just remember I had a sweet spot and then never adjusted it again. I think it was like 450 or so.

And because my rdna took a beating and then came back for more.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I def don't have the same experience as you.. DNA is great for temp control just not 316. I own 3 DNA devices two 200 and one 75.. Now don't get me wrong I love them but they just don't vape 316 well. Now I have tried every setting on the internet to try to get it to work and in that journey for searching for the answer I learned that the DNA just does not vape well with 316L. IT is a common problem and everyone said to switch to 304 for it is way better and works amazingly.. someday I will have to try that. But my cuboid and istick 100tc both do a better job with 316L.. It is funny cause I have the exact opposite experience as you. on the joyetech i have my temp at 400-420 and on the dna's I need to put the temp as high as 500-550. Why the hell did my font change!!!

I think the reason people think the DNA200 doesn't do 316L TC well is because of Escribe. The TC graph for 316L isn't as smooth as SS430.

I also think they think their cheaper mods do it better is because they don't have Escribe on them and can't see the graph would be even worse.

I think the DNA200 does TC better than any other chip would on 316L. The problem is both 316 and 317 have very low TCR'S and because of that there are better choices. I personally use SS430 but when I run my 316L Claptons in TC they work just fine.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[mchaggis79]

You people are to wires and hardware what I am to fluids and mixing my own recipes. I don't fuck with hardware much. I find what works and stick with it for months and months

 

[Jim_MDP]

Yea I've decided on the SMY SDNA. Particularly cause now that I think about it I did use tc on my rdna. I just remember I had a sweet spot and then never adjusted it again. I think it was like 450 or so.

And because my rdna took a beating and then came back for more.

I have two SDNAs and they're the reason I don't have a second VTC (or VTwo Mini) or even a second Pico (I have about a dozen JTech mods).

But if you're seriously a Kanthal vaper... Fuchai 213.

It's weird, I'd like to see Sig targeted from space for the whole 213 fiasco, but... everything I read says it's a bangin' Power Mode mod right up to 140 watts or so.

And while I'm not the go-to guy for aesthetic critique... I have to say it looks damn stylish.

Doesn't hurt that they're only about $35-$40.

 

[Jim_MDP]

You people are to wires and hardware what I am to fluids and mixing my own recipes. I don't fuck with hardware much. I find what works and stick with it for months and months

LOL... didn't rewrite your post fast enough.

 

[mchaggis79]

LOL... didn't rewrite your post fast enough.

Wasn't gonna rewrite it at all lol. Came out close enough to English I think most ppl can understand what I meant lol. I'm at work so no time to proofread.

 

[Jim_MDP]

Wasn't gonna rewrite it at all lol. Came out close enough to English I think most ppl can understand what I meant lol. I'm at work so no time to proofread.

It's not about proofing... I do that all the time.

I have the original post quoted in my post just above... you wrote an entirely different message.


eta: my browser refresh screwed up. originally... your post was after Steve's. Don't know how.
But after replying to you, and seeing a different post of yours just above, I thought you had completely rewritten your post. My (browser) mistake... apologies.

Still decided on the SDNA? At $50, I think it's a toss up with the HCigar VT133 at ~$88 for best TC value right now.

 

[Justinwitherell]

eVic VTwo Mini

 

[mchaggis79]

It's not about proofing... I do that all the time.

I have the original post quoted in my post just above... you wrote an entirely different message.


eta: my browser refresh screwed up. originally... your post was after Steve's. Don't know how.
But after replying to you, and seeing a different post of yours just above, I thought you had completely rewritten your post. My (browser) mistake... apologies.

Still decided on the SDNA? At $50, I think it's a toss up with the HCigar VT133 at ~$88 for best TC value right now.

Yea I'm still settled on the SDNA. Once the wifey gives me the go ahead I'm getting it.

 

[skt239]

Yea I'm still settled on the SDNA. Once the wifey gives me the go ahead I'm getting it.

Don't worry about the wife, we are giving you the green light. Just tell her everyone on VU said it was cool.



Hope you enjoy the new mod. Come back and tell us what you think.

 

[mchaggis79]

Don't worry about the wife, we are giving you the green light. Just tell her everyone on VU said it was cool.



Hope you enjoy the new mod. Come back and tell us what you think.

I would, but I'm not having sex with anyone on VU, but I am with her so I'd rather not piss her off lmao and I will. Hopefully it works as well as my rdna did cause my ipv mini 2 just ain't cutting it anymore. My wife got it for me for our anniversary last year and while I love her for it it's only really good as a memento or backup mod.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Yea I'm still settled on the SDNA. Once the wifey gives me the go ahead I'm getting it.

Better to ask forgiveness than to ask for permission.

 

[mchaggis79]

Better to ask forgiveness than to ask for permission.

Again I like to have sex with her so there's that lol.

 

[mchaggis79]

The order has been placed with 2 day shipping! Can't wait til Friday!

 

[Jasonrecio]

I just got the sdna for 50$ 4 days ago and I love it. It's solid and beautiful.

San Antonio,Texas

 

[Jasonrecio]

Well if your not using temp control your not getting the full benefit of the dna board imo...

Yeah but you still have the benefit of escribe!

San Antonio,Texas

 

[mchaggis79]

if you have no interest in temp then any mod is going to be find.. The different quality in the mods is about how well they work in temp control and build quality.. almost all of them work great in power mode.. If all you care about is power mode I would just buy what is most eye appealing to you or what has the best battery life.. above is a pretty nice mod.. it has a really big battery life in a somewhat small package.

I forgot that I did use TC with my vaporshark. I had just found a temp I liked within a few weeks and just never adjusted it after that. I was trying to figure out why, using the same wattage on my ipv as I used to on my vaporshark, it practically burns my mouth until I remembered I had set the vaporshark to a temp and then never touched it again once I was happy. I think it was 450ish.

 

[Jim_MDP]

So... new SDNAs in da house. Rockin'

And the first VT75 Nanos are starting to arrive. Should see some first impressions soon.
Probably a better direct comparison without the 26650 bulge.

 

[mchaggis79]

I also checked out the boxer that has the dna75 chip in it as well, but voted against it cause it's a lot more expensive, bigger, much heavier, and I don't want to have to buy all new batteries and a charger to use 26650. I did like the rubber case idea for it though. Even jwraps isn't sure about making a wrap for the SMY.

 

[Jim_MDP]

... I did like the rubber case idea for it though. Even jwraps isn't sure about making a wrap for the SMY.

The SMY has an unusual coating/finish on the Red, and I believe the Black (haven't unboxed my Black yet).

It's not soft and gummy like silicone so it's pretty good about sliding in and out of cloth pockets, but it has a quite nice, almost textured, non-slip surface. I like it.

Obviously it's not on the metal Stainless, and I'm not sure about the Wood either.

 

[mchaggis79]

I purchased the black version to match my coming black billow v3, found that on sale for $20 including shipping not sure when it'll get here though. I loved the v2 so i'm assuming i'll like the v3 just as much if not more. kind of excited about the new posts it uses. always seems like you have to be careful with 4 posts cause the threads get fucked up fairly quick in most every atty i've tried so hopefully with the velocity style deck and it using hex screws instead of philips i won't have to worry so much.

 

[mchaggis79]

I think the reason people think the DNA200 doesn't do 316L TC well is because of Escribe. The TC graph for 316L isn't as smooth as SS430.

I also think they think their cheaper mods do it better is because they don't have Escribe on them and can't see the graph would be even worse.

I think the DNA200 does TC better than any other chip would on 316L. The problem is both 316 and 317 have very low TCR'S and because of that there are better choices. I personally use SS430 but when I run my 316L Claptons in TC they work just fine.

Cheers,
Steve

Ha! Very interesting. I only have one DNA, the vaporshark DNA 200 but I'm seriously considering the same mod as the OP, provided its still in stock at the $50 price tag when my wife doles out my spendin' shekels come Friday. I'll be interested to see if there is a variance. You are correct regarding 316L, from what I've read it's the hardest of the SS wires to get working in TC... Are you using the cuboid with the pre-set for 316L or TCR?

I def don't have the same experience as you.. DNA is great for temp control just not 316. I own 3 DNA devices two 200 and one 75.. Now don't get me wrong I love them but they just don't vape 316 well. Now I have tried every setting on the internet to try to get it to work and in that journey for searching for the answer I learned that the DNA just does not vape well with 316L. IT is a common problem and everyone said to switch to 304 for it is way better and works amazingly.. someday I will have to try that. But my cuboid and istick 100tc both do a better job with 316L.. It is funny cause I have the exact opposite experience as you. on the joyetech i have my temp at 400-420 and on the dna's I need to put the temp as high as 500-550. Why the hell did my font change!!!

I basically quoted you guys cause you 3 seem to know the most about the subject i'm trying to learn about. I'm trying to figure out which wire to replace my kanthal with. I'm thinking SS is the route for me to go. hearing about titanium dioxide buildup has me kind of nervous about using titanium so i think SS is the way to go. I won't use nickel at all, not for any kind of safety reasons, just I think it's shitty wire imo. If I can't get TI or SS red hot to set the coils like i do with kanthal when first putting in a new build, how do i know it's burning evenly? Can I still do builds like I do with Kanthal with either wire? I love my dual twisted 28gauge 2mm ID with 6 wraps, once I found that build that's all I use.

 

[SHOUTCAST]

I basically quoted you guys cause you 3 seem to know the most about the subject i'm trying to learn about. I'm trying to figure out which wire to replace my kanthal with. I'm thinking SS is the route for me to go. hearing about titanium dioxide buildup has me kind of nervous about using titanium so i think SS is the way to go. I won't use nickel at all, not for any kind of safety reasons, just I think it's shitty wire imo. If I can't get TI or SS red hot to set the coils like i do with kanthal when first putting in a new build, how do i know it's burning evenly? Can I still do builds like I do with Kanthal with either wire? I love my dual twisted 28gauge 2mm ID with 6 wraps, once I found that build that's all I use.

For SS you can build just like you do with Kanthal.. SS works in both Power mode and Temp mod.. When building with SS just put your mod in power mode and adjust your build just like you would with Kanthal.. You can heat up SS and get rid of hot spots and then once your happy you can switch over to Temp mode and vape away.. Not sure about TI it has been so long since I even looked at it but if I remember correctly you can not dry burn TI in power mode.. hope that helps.