will do. need to just break down and try to read all the fine print one day so i know the answers to some of it lolI would contact Nymbis to find out
so i have a nymbis vape box mod that has a lifetime warranty. if it breaks and i send it back would they be able to fix it as a warrenty or would that be ( producing a new tobacco product and not allowed)
true these regs are getting weird but some i do agree with but the vast majority is just confusing to me and what all they blanket. only loop hole ive seen was if your friend has the capability or you have the capability to make a mod your free to do so as long as none of them are the same every one has to be alittle diffrent or so ive heard so not sure if that would apply to a warrenty claim because nymbis may use the same enternals but every box is custome engraved so not sure on that or if it means nothing.Likely reading the deeming regs won't help you. NicoPure read the regs, said, "this is BS, we have products that do not contain tobacco or tabacoo derivates," and filed suit against the FDA. The FDAs response was that NicoPure can't file suit because they don't know if the regs apply. NOT "the regs don't apply", "they don't know if the regs apply". This would very likely be the same exact answer they would give to your mod manufacturer if they asked. Out of one side of their mouths they claim that anything that is linked to vaping is a tobacco product, and out of the other side they're saying that a particular product may or may not be a tobacco product and you can't know if it is or it isn't until/unless you submit it to the FDA for approval.
Where this gets really wonky is when they mention "nicotine delivery". The word, delivery, can be applied to any and all vehicles. If you walk to a vape shop, your sneakers are a delivery system. If you drive, so is your car. oh, and the plane that arrived from China with the goods, and the UPS guy who delivered them, all tobacco products because all facilitated the delivery of nicotine, or even if it didn't. Because if the device CAN be used to deliver nicotine and all you do with it is vape pure VG, with nothing else added, it's still a tobacco product. And because you can put VG in a tobacco product, it is a tobacco product. That's right, anal lube is now a tobacco product. So, for that matter, is the diluent used in nebulizers for the treatment of lung ailments (PG). Vanilla flavoring? Tobacco. Your toaster (kanthal)? Tobacco. You get the idea. The problem is the FDA set up these regs to control everything in vaping in an attempt to make it impossible for vaping to continue, but in order to do that they would, very literally, need control over everything.
but brawndo has electrolytesIt's actually the opposite, it hinders change and innovation be requiring every minor change to be re-approved. FDA looking to fill their coffers so they can become Brawndo. Bonus points to whomever gets that reference without Google's help.
Apparently, the FDA thinks they do too.but brawndo has electrolytes
seems about right. can understand the age restrictions and i dont want a dude mixing juice in a moldy basement but other than that not sure why they felt the need to step in. unless phillip morris decided that they wanted that chunk of change the vape comunity took away from itApparently, the FDA thinks they do too.
Well Big Tobacco or Big Pharma or both... They've made several statements about smoking cessation stating that there are FDA approved alternatives to vaping. Unfortunately, many of these are unnecessarily expensive (patches, gum), most don't work, like Wellbutrin and the aforementioned replacements, and some are downright dangerous, like Wellbutrin (seizures, suicidal tendencies) and Chantix (suicide, insomnia, host of other very unpleasant side effects). The FDA is clearly not interested in the long term health of those wishes to quit smoking or smoke less. And all of the reputable studies thus far are in agreement, that the FDA is out of its collective mind, lining its pockets, or both.seems about right. can understand the age restrictions and i dont want a dude mixing juice in a moldy basement but other than that not sure why they felt the need to step in. unless phillip morris decided that they wanted that chunk of change the vape comunity took away from it
Well Big Tobacco or Big Pharma or both... They've made several statements about smoking cessation stating that there are FDA approved alternatives to vaping. Unfortunately, many of these are unnecessarily expensive (patches, gum), most don't work, like Wellbutrin and the aforementioned replacements, and some are downright dangerous, like Wellbutrin (seizures, suicidal tendencies) and Chantix (suicide, insomnia, host of other very unpleasant side effects). The FDA is clearly not interested in the long term health of those wishes to quit smoking or smoke less. And all of the reputable studies thus far are in agreement, that the FDA is out of its collective mind, lining its pockets, or both.
Mech mods will and can never be banned. Modular flashlights with 510 connectors are the simplest form of new product. LED "hobby tops" are a simple extension of this concept that would allow all RDAs/RDTAs/RTAs through. The REAL weak link is prebuilt coils and the devices that use them. This is a very good reason, if you prefer tank systems, to learn how to build and use tanks with currently available rebuildable decks, even if you don't currently use those decks.the mods will be semi easy to get or build for most imo the hard part i would think would be getting ahold of new dripping atomizers. not many companys that i can think of have a 2,3,4 post atomizer that you could get ahold of if an outright ban happens.
the mods will be semi easy to get or build for most imo the hard part i would think would be getting ahold of new dripping atomizers. not many companys that i can think of have a 2,3,4 post atomizer that you could get ahold of if an outright ban happens.
Mech mods will and can never be banned. Modular flashlights with 510 connectors are the simplest form of new product. LED "hobby tops" are a simple extension of this concept that would allow all RDAs/RDTAs/RTAs through. The REAL weak link is prebuilt coils and the devices that use them. This is a very good reason, if you prefer tank systems, to learn how to build and use tanks with currently available rebuildable decks, even if you don't currently use those decks.
On the "software" side, it's the nicotine. Stockpiling at every sale now is prudent. Besides, even if it all does not come crashing down, you can easily save yourself hundreds or thousands, depending on how much you go through, per years on juice. DIY juice costs me about 2¢/ml. I still support the juice makers like MaddCatt, Scope, TMaxx, and Insane, but if any or all of them shut down tomorrow, I won't be shut down.
Yep, working on my prep for worst case scenario now, got the DIY eliq down and stockpiling 100mg. Starting to learn how to build. My weak link is mods, I keep using the ones I buy to get more flavors into rotation. But, because they're in rotation, they're not used as heavily, so they'll last longer. At least that's how I justify dipping into my stash. The bigger problem is my wife who chronically breaks shit AND loses shit. One mod and four tanks gone so far this year alone. I can't get it through her head that IF the FDA crackdown effectively bans everything, not only will the resources be limited, they'll be unreplenishable. That's it. Done. Broke your last tank? SOL. Yeah, I'm stockpiling replacement glass, seals and rings. But at her rate of destruction, I'd need some 200 replacement glass for the tanks and about 50 mods and tanks to cover lost items. That's just something I can't do.
I think our internal government is VERY aware of the ramifications of smoking cessation through vaping. According to the CDC, smokers SAVE the government some $160k in benefits by dying "at least 10 years" early. That's an extra, roughly, half a trillion dollars in benefits increase, just to cover people who vape instead of smoke now. Nevermind the lost taxes for that same time span which probably run another 20-50 billion lost income for that same time frame. I'm not a conspiracy nut, but is it really such a coincidence that all of the actions being taken by our government are beneficial to big government, and no one else? At some point, you kind of have to sigh and say to yourself, "you know, all that circumstantial evidence is kind of overwhelming".