To Date which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for & why?

[Time]

Ok, first. Go look at all of the executive orders that Obama has made regarding bills passed in both houses. Second, look at all the bills that could not go through due to certain parts not being acceptable to Dems and lib Republicans.

Do I wish the whole of Republican Reps were Trey Gowdy? Absolutely.

When you get down to the topic at hand, what in Hillary do you like? What policies or past decisions make her a good candidate?

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Who gave Obama the power to rule through executive order? Who deferred their power to make and create law to alphabet agencies? How does the EPA create Federal Law? Congress handed those Powers to the President. Republicans handed those powers to the President.

Your field of view is too small.

What does Hitlery have to do with it? Let's not change the subject. You said Republicans were better than Democrats. I said they are worse and gave my reasons. The reasons are pretty simple. In a word, weak. It's often not what they say, it's what they don't do. They let the Democrats and worse, one man, control them. That by itself makes them worse. They handed their power to the Executive Branch.

Trump is better than Hitlery. That does not equate to the Republican Party being better than the Democratic Party. Two different subjects, I'm afraid.

 

[r055co]

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Claiming to be authentic and shows a burrito with Cheddar, sour cream and lettuce. Now that's funny!

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[r055co]

I wouldn't say that Republicans are as bad as Democrats. Just look at the absolute destruction that the Obama administration has done against not only against the American people, but to the Constitution itself.

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Look at the destruction Bush administration brought.

Patriot Act, Warrantless Wire Taps, justification of torture, Wall Street and Bank bail outs, Iraq etc, etc.

Obama just embraced and expanded the Bush Doctrine.

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[r055co]

Never once did they use the power of the purse. They just sucked his ass dry. They were supposed to repeal Obama Care. All we got was excuses. Fuck them. They're all a bunch of lying thieves that just look to line their own pockets. Time for an outsider. Time for an Avenger. Time for law abiding decent Americans to take their country back. Time for Trump.

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Trump an outsider.... Wake the fuck up, seriously

You know he has been a friend of the Clinton's for a long time time. He's even a contributor to the Clinton Foundation.


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[Deucesjack]

Trump an outsider.... Wake the fuck up, seriously

You know he has been a friend of the Clinton's for a long time time. He's even a contributor to the Clinton Foundation.


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We've had this conversation before. No one is saying he's perfect but given the other choice it's a no brainer for me.

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[r055co]

We've had this conversation before. No one is saying he's perfect but given the other choice it's a no brainer for me.

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He's the establishment, you seriously need to wake up. The Oligarchy has been playing this same game for decades and the general Herd continue to swallow it up.



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[Deucesjack]

He's the establishment, you seriously need to wake up. The Oligarchy has been playing this same game for decades and the general Herd continue to swallow it up.



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Ok, wake me up. Who may I ask are you voting for?

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[r055co]

Ok, wake me up. Who may I ask are you voting for?

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Gary Johnson

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[SgtRock]

If Trump is so establishment then why pray tell have the establishment repubs tried so hard to short circuit his campaign?

You are the one that needs to wake the fuck up.

 

[SgtRock]

Voting for Johnson?

LMFAO

You sir are a moron and you are now added to my ignore list because as I have said many times ... too little time to waste reading bullshit from the clueless.

 

[ej1024]

Voting for Johnson?

LMFAO

You sir are a moron and you are now added to my ignore list because as I have said many times ... too little time to waste reading bullshit from the clueless.

Why you always call people names when arguing? Can't u argue like an adult!? Fucking trump fan bois


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[r055co]

If Trump is so establishment then why pray tell have the establishment repubs tried so hard to short circuit his campaign?

You are the one that needs to wake the fuck up.

It's all a dog and pony show.

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[Deucesjack]

Gary Johnson

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Lmfao. Really bro? I'll end this with you right now. It's quite obvious an intellectual conversation is just not possible. Voting for a pot smoking fool that doesn't even know what Aleppo is pretty much makes your opinion on anything political null and void. I'd actually have more respect for you if you said Hillary.

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[r055co]

Why you always call people names when arguing? Can't u argue like an adult!? Fucking trump fan bois


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Yep, people say you have to vote for________ because they are the less evil than_________ is why we have the sewer system that we have now.

When the system is a sewer this is what floats to the top.

The general Herd is so clueless and only parrot what they are told.

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[r055co]

Lmfao. Really bro? I'll end this with you right now. It's quite obvious an intellectual conversation is just not possible. Voting for a pot smoking fool that doesn't even know what Aleppo is pretty much makes your opinion on anything political null and void. I'd actually have more respect for you if you said Hillary.

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You parroting that Trump being an outsider puts you exactly in what you describe. Anyone with a clear head can see this.


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[VapeVillian]

Who gave Obama the power to rule through executive order? Who deferred their power to make and create law to alphabet agencies? How does the EPA create Federal Law? Congress handed those Powers to the President. Republicans handed those powers to the President.

Your field of view is too small.

What does Hitlery have to do with it? Let's not change the subject. You said Republicans were better than Democrats. I said they are worse and gave my reasons. The reasons are pretty simple. In a word, weak. It's often not what they say, it's what they don't do. They let the Democrats and worse, one man, control them. That by itself makes them worse. They handed their power to the Executive Branch.

Trump is better than Hitlery. That does not equate to the Republican Party being better than the Democratic Party. Two different subjects, I'm afraid.

LoLz. Again. I don't think you're reading what I'm writing, so I'll leave it in simpler terms. The Republican Congress has tried to overrule the previous Dem Congress' two year session. They are stopped by the President and Dems and Libs in current Congress. Are they perfect? No.

Let's talk about the email situation for just a moment. Look what Congress is having to do just to get some answers. They have been blocked from day 1 by the Dems on the committees, the Dem President, the Dem AG, the in the pocket FBI director, and the bias of the media. Tell me, when there is more than enough evidence of a crime and Congress has to make special computers and are still blocked by Dems across the board, what would you have them do?

My field of view is too small? I'm the one talking about the highest crime rates in cities that have been run by Democrats for 50+ years.

What is it you like about the Democratic leadership? The failed social welfare? The relaxed immigration policy? The paying of 1.4B in cash to a terrorist? I just don't understand how anybody could align themselves with the Dems.

Don't change the topic? The topic is about the Presidential candidates.

I agree, Trump is the better candidate.

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[r055co]

Voting for Johnson?

LMFAO

You sir are a moron and you are now added to my ignore list because as I have said many times ... too little time to waste reading bullshit from the clueless.

Yep, you're doing exactly what the Obama zombies did when I said nothing was going to change with Obama. That he was going to continue the Bush Doctrine when in office.

Continue to put your head in the sand and think that voting for Trump will make any difference.

The presidential debates are going to be such a joke.

You have a beneficiary of the Clinton Foundation debating a major donor to that foundation being moderated by a former member of that foundation.

Anyone else see anything wrong with that?

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[Whitesoxfan2579]

LMFAO........What's an Aleppo??

 

[ej1024]

Yep, you're doing exactly what the Obama zombies did when I said nothing was going to change with Obama. That he was going to continue the Bush Doctrine when in office.

Continue to put your head in the sand and think that voting for Trump will make any difference.

The presidential debates are going to be such a joke.

You have a beneficiary of the Clinton Foundation debating a major donor to that foundation being moderated by a former member of that foundation.

Anyone else see anything wrong with that?

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Rocco ON POINT...
I said it before the whole is a BIG fucking JOKE!!
it's SO SAD!!


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[VapeVillian]

Yep, you're doing exactly what the Obama zombies did when I said nothing was going to change with Obama. That he was going to continue the Bush Doctrine when in office.

Continue to put your head in the sand and think that voting for Trump will make any difference.

The presidential debates are going to be such a joke.

You have a beneficiary of the Clinton Foundation debating a major donor to that foundation being moderated by a former member of that foundation.

Anyone else see anything wrong with that?

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The thing about Trump is, if he can only get 1 thing done, it'll be to enforce the immigration law. Stopping the influx of illegals into the country will start a chain of events. Less border crime, more jobs, better economy, everyone's happy.

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[Deucesjack]

Yep, people say you have to vote for________ because they are the less evil than_________ is why we have the sewer system that we have now.

When the system is a sewer this is what floats to the top.

The general Herd is so clueless and only parrot what they are told.

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Maybe so but it's still the best system in the history of the world. It's a system that has sustained this glorious country for well over 100 years. No other system has been nearly as successful. The reason we have the problems we have is because we have gotten away from the basis of our Constitution.

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[r055co]

Maybe so but it's still the best system in the history of the world. It's a system that has sustained this glorious for well over 100 years. No other system has been nearly as successful. The reason we have the problems we have is because we have gotten away from the basis of our Constitution.

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Problem is that we don't hold them accountable. Recent examples are

Patriot Act
Warrantless Wiretaps
SCOTUS ruling on eminent domain
Torture
etc
etc

Elections have been dirty for some time, it's nothing but a dog and pony show to placate the people into thinking they have a say. Our government is an Oligarchy and the general Herd has the illusion of freedom.

You want to see how the public is so easily manipulated? The BBC did an excellent series called "Century of the Self". It will open up your eyes. You can find it online. Also an excellent documentary is "Hacking Democracy".

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[Arthur]

Gary Johnson

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The green party reject ? He is more liberal then Obama .

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[Deucesjack]

See that's the problem. The only issue you list that I actually have a problem with is the warrantless wiretaps. I don't have a problem with the Patriot Act, especially after 911 and being a Nyer. I have no problem at all torturing our enemies. They cut our heads off and fly planes into our buildings. Let them water board them I could give a fuck. Eminent domain is a useful tool that when used right contributes to the betterment of society.

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[skeene]

executive order is not new...

 

[r055co]

The green party reject ? He is more liberal then Obama .

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Really, how so?

Focus on debt reduction, balanced budget, smaller government, restructure the income tax, end the war on drugs.

Sounds pretty opposite of the liberal tag.

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[ej1024]

I don't believe 911 was terror attack
No disrespect...


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[Deucesjack]

Really, how so?

Focus on debt reduction, balanced budget, smaller government, restructure the income tax, end the war on drugs.

Sounds pretty opposite of the liberal tag.

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What's an Aleppo? Lmfao. You want this guy making foreign policy decisions? Lol.

I think Aleppo is a new strain of weed. Lmfao.

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[r055co]

See that's the problem. The only issue you list that I actually have a problem with is the warrantless wiretaps. I don't have a problem with the Patriot Act, especially after 911 and being a Nyer. I have no problem at all torturing our enemies. They cut our heads off and fly planes into our buildings. Let them water board them I could give a fuck. Eminent domain is a useful tool that when used right contributes to the betterment of society.

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Giving government absolute power, don't see a problem with them literally wiping their ass with the Constitution? Yes I have a major problem with that. Spending 10 years active duty Marines and being in combat I also take issue with Torture. For one it's unreliable and also gives those you're fighting a big recruiting tool. Not to mention violating treaties we've signed.

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[Deucesjack]

Maybe we should beat the prisoners with an Aleppo? Lol.

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[r055co]

See that's the problem. The only issue you list that I actually have a problem with is the warrantless wiretaps. I don't have a problem with the Patriot Act, especially after 911 and being a Nyer. I have no problem at all torturing our enemies. They cut our heads off and fly planes into our buildings. Let them water board them I could give a fuck. Eminent domain is a useful tool that when used right contributes to the betterment of society.

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So eminent domain, you don't see a problem with government who can take your land away and sell it to private developer's?

Seriously?

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[Deucesjack]

So eminent domain, you don't see a problem with government who can take your land away and sell it to private developer's?

Seriously?

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If used properly no. Talk to the people that stayed in Brooklyn when the Barclay Center was built. They made millions for a shit house in a shit neighborhood. Without Eminent Domain you would have no highways, subways, hospitals, railroads, or government buildings.

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[Time]

LoLz. Again. I don't think you're reading what I'm writing, so I'll leave it in simpler terms. The Republican Congress has tried to overrule the previous Dem Congress' two year session. They are stopped by the President and Dems and Libs in current Congress. Are they perfect? No.

The key word is "tried". They made "symbolic" statements. Symbolic votes. They didn't have to try. They could have defunded Obamacare and they didn't do it. They peed down their leg and caved. The official excuse, coming from Repubes, was that they were afraid of losing the next election. That was their excuse. That was what they said, their words. Their excuse was not that that they were stopped. Their excuse was that they would lose their seats. They put their jobs ahead of the Country.

Let's talk about the email situation for just a moment. Look what Congress is having to do just to get some answers. They have been blocked from day 1 by the Dems on the committees, the Dem President, the Dem AG, the in the pocket FBI director, and the bias of the media. Tell me, when there is more than enough evidence of a crime and Congress has to make special computers and are still blocked by Dems across the board, what would you have them do?

Of course they've been blocked. Because they are weak. They allow the Dims to walk all over them. That's my point. They handed their power to the executive branch. They castrated themselves. This is years in the making. You seem to think this is just brand new situation. No. They've been handing power to the executive branch for many many years. Now, they don't have the balls, or even the desire, to take it back. I'd have them pull the purse strings tight. Defund the government. Do what's right and not what is politically expedient for them. They should have stuck to their guns and fucking starved out the executive branch. I'd have them see how loyal Obama supporters are when their ebt cards don't work no more.

My field of view is too small? I'm the one talking about the highest crime rates in cities that have been run by Democrats for 50+ years.

What does that have to do with the Republicans pissing down their legs and giving Obama everything he wants?

What is it you like about the Democratic leadership? The failed social welfare? The relaxed immigration policy? The paying of 1.4B in cash to a terrorist? I just don't understand how anybody could align themselves with the Dems.

Who said I like anything about the Democrat leadership? You're trying to build a strawman. The Republicans being weak has nothing to do Democrat policies. Hating on the Democrats won't change the Republican failures. That's why the Republicans are worse. Because they are supposed to be better, but they don't do what they say they will. If you catch your girlfriend cheating on you, what is worse? If she is cheating on you with your enemy or your best friend? You expect it from your enemy. But, if it's your best friend it hurts much more. The friend fucking your girlfriend is worse than the dick down the street. I more closely align with Republicans so when Republicans fuck up, it's worse. That makes the Republican Party worse than the Democrats. At least I expect them to fuck things up. They ain't fucking my girlfriend behind my back like the Republicans are.

Don't change the topic? The topic is about the Presidential candidates.

No, you said Republicans are better than Democrats. The Presidential candidates are Trump and Clinton. I base my opinion of Trump and Clinton on Trump and Clinton. Not on R or D. Trump is better than Clinton. That does not mean that Republicans are better than Democrats.

 

[r055co]

If used properly no. Talk to the people that stayed in Brooklyn when the Barclay Center was built. They made millions for a shit house in a shit neighborhood. Without Eminent Domain you would have no highways, subways, hospitals, railroads, or government buildings.

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So you trust government to do the right thing with absolute power.

Nope, I don't. History shows what Government does with absolute power.

A State gets massive campaign money from developer. Said developer wants land owned for generations of a family. State goes in with eminent domain takes the land. Sells to developer who in turn builds a resort.

Nope wouldn't happen, would it?

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[Deucesjack]

I don't believe 911 was terror attack
No disrespect...


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Bro, you and I are always cool but this may be the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen you make. Trust me, it was real and it was terrorists. Saying anything else is insulting to all the victims and their families.

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[Synphul]

I guess anyone voting for Jill Stein is going to have to bail her out first. I guess she's got a warrant out for her arrest after tagging a bulldozer with spray paint. lmfao.

I've gotta hand it to Trump, if it weren't for him much of what's going on with the circus in this election wouldn't be happening. Much of what's going on in the world wouldn't be happening. He talks about what a waste it is being trapped in treaties with other countries eating your lunch, UK goes for brexit. He brings up the subject of the refugees from the middle east being a problem, of building a wall - now the UK wants to build a wall to keep out unwanted citizens from just pouring in. Obummer can't get the Chinese to roll out the red carpet, meanwhile a businessman who's never served in political office has invites from the president of Mexico.

Trump calls the media a bunch of one sided horseshit and then watchdog groups get involved and other things happen that blow it wide open for Americans to see just how biased the media is. I don't think if this were Bush and Clinton, Rubio and Clinton or anyone else on the ticket that we'd have the outright pull from the media bosses. The b.s. allegation over Ailes involving Megyn Kelley and the majority of the fox staff threatening to leave as Fox is forced to take a more liberal stance. A host on morning joe pulled the plug over a segment she didn't like. Van Sustren left after over a decade, newsmax literally blacked out the show midstream with Dennis Michael Lynch and then the forced the show to run a predetermined packet of 'approved' news. Does anyone think we'd see the blatant silencing of political stories and pushing of propaganda if this election cycle were between two 'establishment' candidates?

It's gotten ridiculous and much of the b.s. has only made the so called 'laughable' things Trump has said, true. The election wasn't this off the reservation back when obummer was first elected in 2008 and that should have been a bigger event, the first black president this country has ever had. Not that people thought politics weren't dirty or that the news didn't have its biases. But it wasn't anything like what Trump's candidacy has blown wide open this election.

 

[pulsevape]

Gary Johnson

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LOL...talk about a dog and pony show...he hired illegals in his construction company,he supports gun control,he supports the TPP which allows for maylasia to join the TPP while they "work" on their slavery issues....Gary johnson has the integrity of a streetwalker..he is no Ron Paul.besides he's as stupid as a bag of hammers.

 

[r055co]

The key word is "tried". They made "symbolic" statements. Symbolic votes. They didn't have to try. They could have defunded Obamacare and they didn't do it. They peed down their leg and caved. The official excuse, coming from Repubes, was that they were afraid of losing the next election. That was their excuse. That was what they said, their words. Their excuse was not that that they were stopped. Their excuse was that they would lose their seats. They put their jobs ahead of the Country.




Of course they've been blocked. Because they are weak. They allow the Dims to walk all over them. That's my point. They handed their power to the executive branch. They castrated themselves. This is years in the making. You seem to think this is just brand new situation. No. They've been handing power to the executive branch for many many years. Now, they don't have the balls, or even the desire, to take it back. I'd have them pull the purse strings tight. Defund the government. Do what's right and not what is politically expedient for them. They should have stuck to their guns and fucking starved out the executive branch. I'd have them see how loyal Obama supporters are when their ebt cards don't work no more.




What does that have to do with the Republicans pissing down their legs and giving Obama everything he wants?




Who said I like anything about the Democrat leadership? You're trying to build a strawman. The Republicans being weak has nothing to do Democrat policies. Hating on the Democrats won't change the Republican failures. That's why the Republicans are worse. Because they are supposed to be better, but they don't do what they say they will. If you catch your girlfriend cheating on you, what is worse? If she is cheating on you with your enemy or your best friend? You expect it from your enemy. But, if it's your best friend it hurts much more. The friend fucking your girlfriend is worse than the dick down the street. I more closely align with Republicans so when Republicans fuck up, it's worse. That makes the Republican Party worse than the Democrats. At least I expect them to fuck things up. They ain't fucking my girlfriend behind my back like the Republicans are.




No, you said Republicans are better than Democrats. The Presidential candidates are Trump and Clinton. I base my opinion of Trump and Clinton on Trump and Clinton. Not on R or D. Trump is better than Clinton. That does not mean that Republicans are better than Democrats.

Like I said, it's all a Dog and Pony show.

Where's all the protesters who screamed Impeachment and war crimes with Bush when Obama embraced and expanded the policy?



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[Deucesjack]

So you trust government to do the right thing with absolute power.

Nope, I don't. History shows what Government does with absolute power.

A State gets massive campaign money from developer. Said developer wants land owned for generations of a family. State goes in with eminent domain takes the land. Sells to developer who in turn builds a resort.

Nope wouldn't happen, would it?

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I don't trust the government at all. That's why I'm voting for Trump. To not recognize Eminent Domain is a needed tool for a legitimate society to thrive is kind of child like.

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[pulsevape]

So you trust government to do the right thing with absolute power.

Nope, I don't. History shows what Government does with absolute power.

A State gets massive campaign money from developer. Said developer wants land owned for generations of a family. State goes in with eminent domain takes the land. Sells to developer who in turn builds a resort.

Nope wouldn't happen, would it?

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you are really reaching to the point of being ridiculous...

 

[VapeVillian]

The key word is "tried". They made "symbolic" statements. Symbolic votes. They didn't have to try. They could have defunded Obamacare and they didn't do it. They peed down their leg and caved. The official excuse, coming from Repubes, was that they were afraid of losing the next election. That was their excuse. That was what they said, their words. Their excuse was not that that they were stopped. Their excuse was that they would lose their seats. They put their jobs ahead of the Country.




Of course they've been blocked. Because they are weak. They allow the Dims to walk all over them. That's my point. They handed their power to the executive branch. They castrated themselves. This is years in the making. You seem to think this is just brand new situation. No. They've been handing power to the executive branch for many many years. Now, they don't have the balls, or even the desire, to take it back. I'd have them pull the purse strings tight. Defund the government. Do what's right and not what is politically expedient for them. They should have stuck to their guns and fucking starved out the executive branch. I'd have them see how loyal Obama supporters are when their ebt cards don't work no more.




What does that have to do with the Republicans pissing down their legs and giving Obama everything he wants?




Who said I like anything about the Democrat leadership? You're trying to build a strawman. The Republicans being weak has nothing to do Democrat policies. Hating on the Democrats won't change the Republican failures. That's why the Republicans are worse. Because they are supposed to be better, but they don't do what they say they will. If you catch your girlfriend cheating on you, what is worse? If she is cheating on you with your enemy or your best friend? You expect it from your enemy. But, if it's your best friend it hurts much more. The friend fucking your girlfriend is worse than the dick down the street. I more closely align with Republicans so when Republicans fuck up, it's worse. That makes the Republican Party worse than the Democrats. At least I expect them to fuck things up. They ain't fucking my girlfriend behind my back like the Republicans are.




No, you said Republicans are better than Democrats. The Presidential candidates are Trump and Clinton. I base my opinion of Trump and Clinton on Trump and Clinton. Not on R or D. Trump is better than Clinton. That does not mean that Republicans are better than Democrats.

Ok. No, I didn't say Republicans are better than Dems. I responded to a statement the Republicans were worse than Dems, by saying that they are not as bad as Dems.

I completely agree with you on basing my opinion on the candidate. I didn't bring the issue of the parties up.

I'm confused about one thing. You say Congress tried to defund Obamacare with symbolic votes. If they are not able to get things they voted on signed by the President, how does that make them weak?

When Congress can't find the government because of the Dems, who gets blamed?

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[r055co]

LOL...talk about a dog and pony show...he hired illegals in his construction company,he supports gun control,he supports the TPP which allows for maylasia to join the TPP while they "work" on their slavery issues....Gary johnson has the integrity of a streetwalker..he is no Ron Paul.besides he's as stupid as a bag of hammers.

I disagree with the Libertarian on trade. Illegal aliens, hate to bust your bubble but so has Trump.

As for gun control, here's his statement on that

I'm one of those who believe the bumper sticker: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. The first people who are going to be in line to turn in their guns are law-abiding citizens. Criminals are going to be left with guns. I believe that concealed carry is a way of reducing gun violence.


So please tell me how he's a "Liberal"?

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[Time]

Patriot Act
Warrantless Wiretaps
SCOTUS ruling on eminent domain
Torture
etc
etc

Agreed.

The problem is, Those things won't matter much when Gary let's in all the illegals and terrorists. His immigration and trade policies are unwise and ill advised. Irreversable.

We can reverse the other issues at a later date, hopefully with a better candidate. They've been policy and law for a long time. The more immediate problems won't be easily reversed. Gary's poor immigration and trade policies are fundamentally dangerous and immediate. Sorry. Libertarians won't even vote for the guy because he fails in this basic regard.

 

[r055co]

I guess anyone voting for Jill Stein is going to have to bail her out first. I guess she's got a warrant out for her arrest after tagging a bulldozer with spray paint. lmfao.

I've gotta hand it to Trump, if it weren't for him much of what's going on with the circus in this election wouldn't be happening. Much of what's going on in the world wouldn't be happening. He talks about what a waste it is being trapped in treaties with other countries eating your lunch, UK goes for brexit. He brings up the subject of the refugees from the middle east being a problem, of building a wall - now the UK wants to build a wall to keep out unwanted citizens from just pouring in. Obummer can't get the Chinese to roll out the red carpet, meanwhile a businessman who's never served in political office has invites from the president of Mexico.

Trump calls the media a bunch of one sided horseshit and then watchdog groups get involved and other things happen that blow it wide open for Americans to see just how biased the media is. I don't think if this were Bush and Clinton, Rubio and Clinton or anyone else on the ticket that we'd have the outright pull from the media bosses. The b.s. allegation over Ailes involving Megyn Kelley and the majority of the fox staff threatening to leave as Fox is forced to take a more liberal stance. A host on morning joe pulled the plug over a segment she didn't like. Van Sustren left after over a decade, newsmax literally blacked out the show midstream with Dennis Michael Lynch and then the forced the show to run a predetermined packet of 'approved' news. Does anyone think we'd see the blatant silencing of political stories and pushing of propaganda if this election cycle were between two 'establishment' candidates?

It's gotten ridiculous and much of the b.s. has only made the so called 'laughable' things Trump has said, true. The election wasn't this off the reservation back when obummer was first elected in 2008 and that should have been a bigger event, the first black president this country has ever had. Not that people thought politics weren't dirty or that the news didn't have its biases. But it wasn't anything like what Trump's candidacy has blown wide open this election.

The sad reality is that Hillary has been anointed to assume the Throne. Trump is just a distraction. The elections are rigged, have been for a long time. Love how Wikileaks proved this in the Primaries. Pathetic is I bring this up with Hillary supporters and they can only parrot that it's conspiracy lies.

Pathetic that there are no investigative journalists and we can only depend on hacker's for the truth. But that's what happens when most all the news is controlled by 3 people / corporations.

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I disagree with the Libertarian on trade. Illegal aliens, hate to bust your bubble but so has Trump.

As for gun control, here's his statement on that

I'm one of those who believe the bumper sticker: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. The first people who are going to be in line to turn in their guns are law-abiding citizens. Criminals are going to be left with guns. I believe that concealed carry is a way of reducing gun violence.


So please tell me how he's a "Liberal"?

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Libertarian presidential candidate and former governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson during a CNN town hall Wednesday night defended current gun control laws, saying he would not seek to roll them back should he be elected into office.

Johnson was joined by running mate Bill Weld, former governor of Massachusetts, and said he could support an assault weapons ban, but would not support outlawing semi-automatic rifles.

Try a bit of honesty...the entire Trump campagin has been built on one single issue, well two... the first The Wall his hard stance on illegal immigration this is in stark contrast of Johnson who is a de facto amnesty twat...and the second issue that Hilary is insane...Gary Johnson is fucking country club republican who smokes herbal mix...

 

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I'm confused about one thing. You say Congress tried to defund Obamacare with symbolic votes. If they are not able to get things they voted on signed by the President, how does that make them weak?

They caved. They gave Obama a budget bill that he would not sign. Without that budget bill, there was no money. It was a standoff and Obama won the standoff. They caved and gave Obama everything he wanted. That makes them weak. They should have let the money run out until Obama signed the bill that they gave him. Obama had more balls than the Republicans. That makes them weak.

 

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you are really reaching to the point of being ridiculous...

Look at the SCOTUS ruling and Sandra Day O'Connor's scathing dissent of it.

That's exactly how they ruled.

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[r055co]

I don't trust the government at all. That's why I'm voting for Trump. To not recognize Eminent Domain is a needed tool for a legitimate society to thrive is kind of child like.

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Eminent domain how it used to be was needed. How SCOTUS ruled is a perversion. I suggest you read the ruling and Sandra Day O'Connor's scathing dissent of it

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Eminent domain how it used to be was needed. How SCOTUS ruled is a perversion. I suggest you read the ruling and Sandra Day O'Connor's scathing dissent of it

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It doesn't change Gary's pro immigration and pro TPP stance.

I can die protecting my property, but I won't have any property to protect under Gary. I won't be able to afford it.

 

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Agreed.

The problem is, Those things won't matter much when Gary let's in all the illegals and terrorists. His immigration and trade policies are unwise and ill advised. Irreversable.

We can reverse the other issues at a later date, hopefully with a better candidate. They've been policy and law for a long time. The more immediate problems won't be easily reversed. Gary's poor immigration and trade policies are fundamentally dangerous and immediate. Sorry. Libertarians won't even vote for the guy because he fails in this basic regard.

Libertarian presidential candidate and former governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson during a CNN town hall Wednesday night defended current gun control laws, saying he would not seek to roll them back should he be elected into office.

Johnson was joined by running mate Bill Weld, former governor of Massachusetts, and said he could support an assault weapons ban, but would not support outlawing semi-automatic rifles.

Try a bit of honesty...the entire Trump campagin has been built on one single issue, well two... the first The Wall his hard stance on illegal immigration this is in stark contrast of Johnson who is a de facto amnesty twat...and the second issue that Hilary is insane...Gary Johnson is fucking country club republican who smokes herbal mix...

Don't agree with all of his platform, especially trade. Him flopping on the issues, he's a politician. But fact of the matter is that the real power is in the house and senate.

You really want to know why I'm voting for him? He's not a Republican or a Democrat. I refuse to support the one Party system that we have.

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