Looking for advice / tips.

[FoggyEmpire]

Hey guys, I'm brand new to this site and fairly new to DIY ejuice. So far I'm living playing around and coming up with flavors but I have a few questions. I've made what I find to be some nice flavors but when I'm dripping them it almost seems as though its flavorful on the inhale but on the exhale it just seems like a plain or PG / VG taste. It seems like the is zero flavor on the exhale and no or extremely minimal aftertaste. Is there anything I can do to make the flavors come out throughout the whole inhale/exhale/aftertaste? Also how do you make flavors pop more?

I've also read some info on here about the additives and what they do. Just curious what additives are the best or most commonly used?

Any help is greatly appreciated guys! Like I said Im very new to this but trying to step my game up! Cheers

*EDIT* - I also would like to know a bit more about all these speed steeps ( crock-pot, ultrasonic cleaners, etc.) Looking for cheap easy effective steeping methods.

Also if I was to use a crock pot or a ultrasonic cleaner can I still use plastic bottles or do they need to be glaas?

Thanks again guys!

 

[Foggz]

Welcome to VU FoggyEmpire - Lets try to figure it out..

BTW - additives are not a cure all.. better to learn how to make and fix mixes without them b4 deciding you need some.

Different flavor manufacturers tend to have different characteristics. For instance CAP is usually more sweet than TFA or FA - likewise recommended percentages per flavor change by company as well as by flavor .. Some flavors have additives already added and can counter or offset your recipe. Once you get past that.. you end up with different types of recipes .. simple/complex , linear versus layered.

Point is to answer your question it might be helpful to know the ingredients you are using .. the more info you have the better. What recipe (flavors,brands,& percents), vg-pg ratio, NIC % and brand - with that info it makes it easier to try and help ya out.

edit: That being said.. off the top of my head I'd say that maybe your recipe is kind of linear with top notes only... could be one reason.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Hey guys, I'm brand new to this site and fairly new to DIY ejuice. So far I'm living playing around and coming up with flavors but I have a few questions. I've made what I find to be some nice flavors but when I'm dripping them it almost seems as though its flavorful on the inhale but on the exhale it just seems like a plain or PG / VG taste. It seems like the is zero flavor on the exhale and no or extremely minimal aftertaste. Is there anything I can do to make the flavors come out throughout the whole inhale/exhale/aftertaste? Also how do you make flavors pop more?

I've also read some info on here about the additives and what they do. Just curious what additives are the best or most commonly used?

Any help is greatly appreciated guys! Like I said Im very new to this but trying to step my game up! Cheers

*EDIT* - I also would like to know a bit more about all these speed steeps ( crock-pot, ultrasonic cleaners, etc.) Looking for cheap easy effective steeping methods.

Also if I was to use a crock pot or a ultrasonic cleaner can I still use plastic bottles or do they need to be glaas?

Thanks again guys!

ultrasonic cleaners are cheap. 15-20 bucks off amazon. I do it with plastic bottles but i put them in a water tight bag with a rock in it (so the bottles don't float) and hot water in the cleaner and run it for 10 mins or so

 

[Foggz]

with plastic bottles but i put them in a water tight bag with a rock in it (so the bottles don't float) and hot water in the cleaner and run it for 10 mins or so

nice - don't use that method much .. but like the rock bit

 

[FoggyEmpire]

Well 15 to 20 isn't bad at all! And which would be the better way to go crock pot or ultrasonic cleaner?

Also can you do both methods with plastic bottles? Why do pepole use glass?

And does anyone have a simple DIY shaker ? Saw the post on here for them but don't really understand lol

 

[Heabob]

Also can you do both methods with plastic bottles? Why do pepole use glass?

Crock Pot gets too hot for plastic and heat can also cause chemical leaching into the juice.
Glass is safer for heating up but I don't mess with any of it, I just hide them away for awhile, simple & easy.

 

[PreparationHero]

Well 15 to 20 isn't bad at all! And which would be the better way to go crock pot or ultrasonic cleaner?

Also can you do both methods with plastic bottles? Why do pepole use glass?

And does anyone have a simple DIY shaker ? Saw the post on here for them but don't really understand lol

I use a ultrasonic cleaner for more complex lighter juices, some I hear steep in a warm kettle. Some I just shake the shit out of. But the best method is always going to be giving it time in a dark place.

And as far as exhale, try cleansing your palate first, brush your teeth, smell coffee, drink club soda and water, then try again and exhale from your nose. That's where your getting your flavor.

 

[FoggyEmpire]

Crock Pot gets too hot for plastic and heat can also cause chemical leaching into the juice.
Glass is safer for heating up but I don't mess with any of it, I just hide them away for awhile, simple & easy.

That's what I've been doing so far as I don't have a shaker or heating method. Also do any of you have any answers for the first part of my question up top?

 

[SirRichardRear]

Well 15 to 20 isn't bad at all! And which would be the better way to go crock pot or ultrasonic cleaner?

Also can you do both methods with plastic bottles? Why do pepole use glass?

And does anyone have a simple DIY shaker ? Saw the post on here for them but don't really understand lol

IMO ultrasonic cleaner because it shakes up the bottles the same time it's heating them and a crock pot doesn't.

 

[FoggyEmpire]

I use a ultrasonic cleaner for more complex lighter juices, some I hear steep in a warm kettle. Some I just shake the shit out of. But the best method is always going to be giving it time in a dark place.

And as far as exhale, try cleansing your palate first, brush your teeth, smell coffee, drink club soda and water, then try again and exhale from your nose. That's where your getting your flavor.

I get what you mean by cleansing my palate however it seems a little different from what I'm asking. I'm going to try to word it better... so say I put new cotton in my rda , shake my bottle of juice, coat the cotton and fill my juice well. Take a big haul and it tastes great, but when I blow it out it has almost no flavor, even when I blow through my nose. On top of that once I take a haul or two the next hauls have little to no flavor even on the inhale yet the cotton is still saturated. It seems like all the flavor gets used up first or something?

 

[FoggyEmpire]

IMO ultrasonic cleaner because it shakes up the bottles the same time it's heating them and a crock pot doesn't.

Is it still safe to use plastic bottles in the ultrasonic cleaner because of the heat?

 

[PreparationHero]

I get what you mean by cleansing my palate however it seems a little different from what I'm asking. I'm going to try to word it better... so say I put new cotton in my rda , shake my bottle of juice, coat the cotton and fill my juice well. Take a big haul and it tastes great, but when I blow it out it has almost no flavor, even when I blow through my nose. On top of that once I take a haul or two the next hauls have little to no flavor even on the inhale yet the cotton is still saturated. It seems like all the flavor gets used up first or something?

That could be a lot of things, what I told you is the most basic fixes. But your juice could just not be strong enough, or mixed right, our you may just have a dull palate. Read flavor notes, check percentages, increase as needed.

For example, you like srawberry.
%5 tfa strawberry
You want it really sweet.
4% sucralose.

Well now you screwed up and muted everything by adding too much sucralose. See what I mean? That's the best I can explain it without having a flavor profile or recipe to go off of.

 

[PreparationHero]

Is it still safe to use plastic bottles in the ultrasonic cleaner because of the heat?

It only really warms it up and shakes it. Its fine. But you should move to glass since they last longer and are reusable

 

[FoggyEmpire]

It only really warms it up and shakes it. Its fine. But you should move to glass since they last longer and are reusable

Aren't glass 4 or 5 times the price? I just prefer plastic because of the pointy tips, I hate the glass droppers lol.

Also a couple flavors I've tried is:

9% watermelon happy rancher ( OOO )
70VG/30PG 3MG nic

And I've also tried

7.5% dragonfruit (TPA)
7.5% juicy peach (TPA)
70VG / 30PG 3MG NIC

The nic I'm using is 50mg in VG Base

 

[PreparationHero]

Glass aren't that expensive, and buying in bulk helps. And glass is reusable. If you reuse plastic, the flavors carry over.

Yeah, Dragon fruit works more like a sweetener /additive than an actual flavor, and that's more peach than you should be mixing.

Try cutting the water melon to half and raise vg to 100%

Try 5% peach. 1% to 3% Dragon fruit.

It's going to take some trial and error, but start small and work your way up.

 

[FoggyEmpire]

Glass aren't that expensive, and buying in bulk helps. And glass is reusable. If you reuse plastic, the flavors carry over.

Yeah, Dragon fruit works more like a sweetener /additive than an actual flavor, and that's more peach than you should be mixing.

Try cutting the water melon to half and raise vg to 100%

Try 5% peach. 1% to 3% Dragon fruit.

It's going to take some trial and error, but start small and work your way up.

I was just going off of other recipes that had the highest ratings on that ejuice recipe site. The peach/dragonfruit one actually tastes amazing it just seems like the flavors don't stay in the juice. Almost as though It vapes the flavor first theN the VG/PG

 

[Heabob]

I just prefer plastic because of the pointy tips, I hate the glass droppers lol.

I've been reusing mine forever, or until the childproof caps quit working.
Have quite a few labeled already and I just mix the same recipe in them usually.
But never had any problems with carry over, I just rinse them out with hot water a few times and GTG.