Help I'm buying a 300w kit that has nothing included with it?

[PedramCarter]

In terms of battery and all that I'm good but I want to buy t
Smok Koopor Primus 300w
with

IJOY Tornado RDTA (300w Capable)
will the tank/coil or whatever be compatible with this?

 

[skt239]

In terms of battery and all that I'm good but I want to buy t
Smok Koopor Primus 300w
with

IJOY Tornado RDTA (300w Capable)
will the tank/coil or whatever be compatible with this?

Sorry buy I'm confused. Are you asking if the tornado will be compatible with the Primus? If that is your question, yes it will work... The tornado is a RTA so it does not use pre-built disposable coils. It does come with pre-wrapped coils you need to install and add cotton to. If you are not familiar with using RTA's it might not be the best choice.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

You know what batteries you need; but, not tank?

Please make sure you are using GOOD high drain batteries with that much power.
Samsung 25r, Sony vtc5 or a good authentic 20a battery
Keep them in sets and use them together.
Some good battery info
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/battery-information


To the tank
Yes. Any tank with a 510 is compatible


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[SirRichardRear]

You know what batteries you need; but, not tank?

Please make sure you are using GOOD high drain batteries with that much power.
Samsung 25r, Sony vtc5 or a good authentic 20a battery
Keep them in sets and use them together.
Some good battery info
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/battery-information


To the tank
Yes. Any tank with a 510 is compatible


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30q or HG2 are better battery options for regulated mods

 

[PedramCarter]

You know what batteries you need; but, not tank?

Please make sure you are using GOOD high drain batteries with that much power.
Samsung 25r, Sony vtc5 or a good authentic 20a battery
Keep them in sets and use them together.
Some good battery info
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/battery-information


To the tank
Yes. Any tank with a 510 is compatible


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I'm going to get LG GH2 3000MHA.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

30q or HG2 are better battery options for regulated mods

Negative, sir.
They give you longer run time, but in no way are they 'better'' or ''safer''

It may be semantics but the engineer in me, pays attention to those things.
Not knowing the mod in question, its amp limit, or the user is also an issue when I recommend a battery.
The 25r has a higher pulse rating and the Sony, is generally accepted as then most stable battery available to us.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Negative, sir.
They give you longer run time, but in no way are they 'better'' or ''safer''

It may be semantics but the engineer in me, pays attention to those things.
Not knowing the mod in question, its amp limit, or the user is also an issue when I recommend a battery.
The 25r has a higher pulse rating and the Sony, is generally accepted as then most stable battery available to us.

negative. the amp rating of the 30q and hg2 meets or exceeds the requirements for every regulated box mod. Using a 25r doesn't give you any advantage since it's higher amp limit isn't used and you lose run time due to the lower mah. Now if it was an unregulated box, depending on the build the 25r might be a better option, or even the LG HB6 if you get really crazy on it. But for regulated the 30q and HG2 are the best options

Also the VCT battery line doesn't really exist anymore. Sony sold off the battery division and issued a cease and desist to retailers selling them, plus the VCT4 and 5 were beaten out anyway by samsung and LG options. Still great batteries, but not available really anymore. No reason to recommend anything in a regulated mod outside of the 30q or Hg2

 

[The Cromwell]

Pedram,
Have you vaped over 100 watts or so before?

 

[f1r3b1rd]

negative. the amp rating of the 30q and hg2 meets or exceeds the requirements for every regulated box mod. Using a 25r doesn't give you any advantage since it's higher amp limit isn't used and you lose run time due to the lower mah. Now if it was an unregulated box, depending on the build the 25r might be a better option, or even the LG HB6 if you get really crazy on it. But for regulated the 30q and HG2 are the best options

Also the VCT battery line doesn't really exist anymore. Sony sold off the battery division and issued a cease and desist to retailers selling them, plus the VCT4 and 5 were beaten out anyway by samsung and LG options. Still great batteries, but not available really anymore. No reason to recommend anything in a regulated mod outside of the 30q or Hg2

so the vtc 6 series that were just released are what than?
Where is this c&d letter?

Please do not give bad information to new vapors. Yes a 20a 3000 math battery WILL run longer, I am not disputing that.
What I am disputing is what is better. SHOULD something go wrong the safer option would be a battery with a higher pulse rating.
Yes the board SHOULD keep someone safe. its the vocabulary I am referring to. in my opinion, safer is more important than run time. when I don't know a person and see a new vapor I will always err on the side of safety.

Some of the best and most credible battery information
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/mooch.256958/

 

[kevin littell]

 

[The Cromwell]

Wtf was that?

 

[fq06]

Not sure I'd run a 3000mah cell in a 300w mod, I think I'd stick with a 25r and you should still get plenty of run time with 3 cells.

Not that anyone will be able to huff down 300w hits anyway but who knows... maybe he will be dialing it all the way up to 300w with a 0.1 build

 

[kevin littell]

This is gonna get silly fast!

 

[fq06]

Lol, it got silly when a 300w mod came into the picture

 

[SirRichardRear]

so the vtc 6 series that were just released are what than?
Where is this c&d letter?

Please do not give bad information to new vapors. Yes a 20a 3000 math battery WILL run longer, I am not disputing that.
What I am disputing is what is better. SHOULD something go wrong the safer option would be a battery with a higher pulse rating.
Yes the board SHOULD keep someone safe. its the vocabulary I am referring to. in my opinion, safer is more important than run time. when I don't know a person and see a new vapor I will always err on the side of safety.

Some of the best and most credible battery information
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/mooch.256958/

I'm aware of moochs blog. That's where I got my info from. The 25r won't make any difference in a regulated mod. I learned the hard way after buying hb6 "to be safe" now I can only use them at home cause they last like 3 hours. No reason to get a higher amp battery then needed in a regulated mod. As far as the vct6 I know mooch said they are basically equal to the 30q and hg2 but I don't know who is gonna be putting out those batteries anymore since Sony sold the division. The new company could put a crap battery and call it a vct6. I feel it's much safer for the long term to stick with lg and Samsung

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[SirRichardRear]

Also looking at the specs and manual they don't give a minimum amp rating of the batteries required for some reason.

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[fq06]

Because to truly push 300w from 3 cells you'd probably need 40a to 50a cells. Not bothered to calc it because no one will vape at 300w for more than a puff or two anyway

 

[PedramCarter]

Pedram,
Have you vaped over 100 watts or so before?

No I haven't but I want something powerful, I'm a casual shisha smoker and ciggerets and the good ol SWEET SWEET dank good stuff, I want something powerful to be able change in future I mean I can turn it up and down to.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

No I haven't but I want something powerful, I'm a casual shisha smoker and ciggerets and the good ol SWEET SWEET dank good stuff, I want something powerful to be able change in future I mean I can turn it up and down to.

is this your first mod?

 

[fq06]

Yeah, it does have a down button. The watt war just got silly when smok came out with that 300w deal.

Ive seen the Wisemec rx 2/3 or whatever it's called for about the same price. Should be a much better chip than anything from smok and you can run a smaller 2 cell setup or go big with 3 cells if you want.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Because to truly push 300w from 3 cells you'd probably need 40a to 50a cells. Not bothered to calc it because no one will vape at 300w for more than a puff or two anyway

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Except that doesn't exist.
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...atteries-with-a-genuine-rating-over-30a.7462/

30 is the most you'll get which iirc is an lg hb6 hb2 or hb4

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[PedramCarter]

is this your first mod?

Yeah it is.

 

[fq06]

That's my point. A 300w mod powered by 3 18650's is kind of silly because there isn't a 18650 made to power it safely. But again, nobody is going to vape at 300w so it's kind of a moot point.

3s high discharge lipo pack, sure. 18650's, no.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Yeah, it does have a down button. The watt war just got silly when smok came out with that 300w deal.

Ive seen the Wisemec rx 2/3 or whatever it's called for about the same price. Should be a much better chip than anything from smok and you can run a smaller 2 cell setup or go big with 3 cells if you want.

Yeah 300 is overkill. I never went over the 100 until I got a tfv8 tank and even that only really needs 140.

Not personally a fan of wismec stuff. I know the rx200 and s have way to thin Guage wires in it and 510 issues. I like smok better personally but wouldn't call them much better. I think most vapors looking for power are better off with a G2. 171 watts is more then enough for anything IMO.

I do agree with erring on the side of safety, but that's the point of regulated mods. I'm sure plenty of people have put shit batteries that are 10 amps in 200watt mods and didn't die. The mod just won't fire for them and rightfully so. If it was to fail at 300 watts won't matter what battery you put in. I'll use .2 ohm cause a lot of sub ohm tanks are at least that low and 300 watts is almost 39 amps. Even the hb6 won't handle that safely let along a 25r

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[f1r3b1rd]

Yeah it is.

ok I more than understand getting power for the future. Thing is 300w may be a tax much. I have 6 or 7, 200w mods and rarely to 90w even with a stupid big build. not trying to coeerce you or anything, but, are you married to this mod?
Quite honestly, fq06 has a great suggestion with the Rx 2/3.

 

[SirRichardRear]

ok I more than understand getting power for the future. Thing is 300w may be a tax much. I have 6 or 7, 200w mods and rarely to 90w even with a stupid big build. not trying to coeerce you or anything, but, are you married to this mod?
Quite honestly, fq06 has a great suggestion with the Rx 2/3.

You'd pick that over a g2 for like 15 bucks more?

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[f1r3b1rd]

You'd pick that over a g2 for like 15 bucks more?

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For a new user .... YES

The idea is what is best for them ... not you

 

[freemind]

I have been vaping, what?, three years or so now? I do not as a rule, run more than 60 watts. I think the highest wattage I ever vaped was 120 watts, and that was briefly. I do not like a lava hot vape.

I am not sold on "boutique" type mods. No one really buys mods that run more than 200 watts. No one vapes that high.

 

[SirRichardRear]

For a new user .... YES

The idea is what is best for them ... not you

How is an rx2/3 better then a g2 for a new user? It's not like I recommended a dna mod which is way more complicated. Plus the g2 is built better, better warranty, and does amazing temp control if they decided to try it.

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[f1r3b1rd]

How is an rx2/3 better then a g2 for a new user? It's not like I recommended a dna mod which is way more complicated. Plus the g2 is built better, better warranty, and does amazing temp control if they decided to try it.

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because I've seen the reviews and its nor exactly a plug and play deal for a noob.
Youre entitled to your opinion,as am I

 

[SirRichardRear]

because I've seen the reviews and its nor exactly a plug and play deal for a noob.
Youre entitled to your opinion,as am I

Yes of course you are, but opinion should come with reason. The g2 is just as plug and play as an rx2/3. It's not complicated like a dna 200 mod. For someone new wouldn't they want support? The rx series has issues with the 510 pin, the wires are too thin internally, and wismec response was we won't warranty it unless you only use wismec attys, have the receipt, and original box. And that's out in china somewhere. Hohmtech has great service and is in california. They stand by their product. You don't need a box and receipt and they'll warranty it for a year. The internals are top notch as is the fsk chip. I dug up an old thread with good info

http://vapingunderground.com/index.php?threads/244629/

If you personally like the rx better that's cool, but if you say it's easier to use then a G2 that's not even close to true. Cause I'd love to hear why you think they are difficult to use?

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[SirRichardRear]

Plus this durability

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=PYDtX2HuGyY

Peel out on it and still works. The g2 will survive falls and daily use easily

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[f1r3b1rd]

Plus this durability

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=PYDtX2HuGyY

Peel out on it and still works. The g2 will survive falls and daily use easily

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Again because I have seen the reviews.
After I saw both of busardos reviews, yes the one with the owner person too.... I had my OPINION
All I use are mechs, Provape, DNA and sx350 mods-- none of which I would recommend to a noob for a variety of reasons(price and over complication to start).

If you want to discuss with is with me further start a thread instead of derailing a new vapors thread, let him/her get the help they need.

To the OP, I apologize for my part in turning this into a train wreck.
I do hope you are able to gleam some useful information here. I wish you the best of luck in your journey and putting down the smokes. Most here are quite helpful, but there are always fanboys.


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[BrewBear]

I wasn't gonna comment, but what the he....! The G2 is hands down the most durable mod I ever had the pleasure of using. Aside from DNA chip mods, this is the one to get and I wish I knew this before spending a bucket of cash on all the other mods that now are just gathering dust or get occasional use for nostalgia's sake. Oh, wait, there is another reason, whenever I'm tired of the G2 or Slice, or Triade , all of which work flawlessly all the time, I pick up one of the "destitutes" and hope I can make it thru the day without problems.
On to the 300 watt mod.... It's a free country (at least it was) but for a noob wanting room to grow, I still think the 300 watt mod is overkill, unless you hook it up to a car battery and be safe. If you don't want to make the evening news, I'd get one of the 2 or 3 cell mods mentioned above.

 

[The Cromwell]

Yeah it is.

Boy are you gonna be disappointed...

 

[Paratech]

@PedramCarter , your original question was will the Ijoy Tornado RDTA be compatible with the Smok Koopor Primus (aka cheese grater)
The answer is YES.
If you have already purchased or ordered this, I agree with @Robert Cromwell in the fact that you probably will be disappointed.
I have the mod.
Here is a review of the mod.

In the event you have not already ordered or purchased this, there are many other mods on the market that'll treat you real well.
Most of us started with small gear, learned, and grew into what we use now.
Most of us also wish we knew then what we know now so we could have saved from buying some of the lesser items.
(myself excluded simply because I collect as much vape gear as I can get my hands on)
So starting out big COULD save you from having to upgrade later.
HOWEVER, in this particular case, with it being your first, it may NOT be the right mod for you.
It will indeed work as the setup that you originally asked about though.
Myself I've never hit anything over 240 and can say I won't be doing it again anytime soon.
Good luck to you and hope you find what you're after.

 

[nightshard]

Buying the Koopor 300W as your first mod seems like overkill to me.
You should be fine running it (or any other regulated 3 battery mod) up to around 185W with 20A batteries and up to around 285W with 30A batteries.

 

[freemind]

I'll add this to the thread too. I gather from another thread, you are not a heavy smoker, and probably don't have much vape experience.

Most people can't start vaping DL, and instead have to start with MTL type tanks to start.

If you are looking at this set up to save money, because you feel this will bring you to your end goal, saving the most money...... Well, maybe.

I would probably suggest you get a dual battery mod in the 150-200 watt range. Maybe consider a tank like the Nautilus X, GS air, or the Melo 3 to start with. Those tanks will make your transition to vaping easier, rather than trying to start off being "clouds bro".

 

[conanthewarrior]

I can understand that you may want to buy this to save having to buy another, more powerful device in the future, but as has been said, 300W is a very high power that the majority of people will never go near, even a 100W mod is more than enough for most people and still gives them some headroom for when they want to chuck some clouds.

I would suggest something with less power for someone new to vaping, you will still get enjoyment from the device and plenty of flavour and cloud if that is what you are after.

A mouth to lung tank would probably be best for someone new to vaping, and these do not require much power at all, I am talking 10-18W for something like the nautilus mini which has been around a long time but a good tank.

 

[kevin littell]

I was correct again.....

 

[fq06]

Lol

 

[Dao'ith]

Highest I've ever vaped was 200w with my TFV8 cloud beast on a RX2/3 and it was only 1 hit. The vape was so hot I couldn't continue. I quickly turned it down to 120w where it was livable. Even at that wattage the tank goes though juice like there's no tomorrow. If your not making your own juice you'll be spending a small fortune supporting your vaping habit.

My first mod was more than I needed as a newb, but I knew I'd what more than a starter down the road. I bought an IPV5 with a Crown tank and honestly the 200w it maxes out at is more than I'll ever need. I mostly vape in the 50-75w range with the exception of the TFV8, but I only use that tank when I'm at home. It's not very practical for taking with me to work.

I understand the appeal of having a 300w mod and I thought about buying it just for the sake of having one. I just can't justify the need of having a mod that will do 300w when I know I'd probably never go over half of it's potential.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Again because I have seen the reviews.
After I saw both of busardos reviews, yes the one with the owner person too.... I had my OPINION
All I use are mechs, Provape, DNA and sx350 mods-- none of which I would recommend to a noob for a variety of reasons(price and over complication to start).

If you want to discuss with is with me further start a thread instead of derailing a new vapors thread, let him/her get the help they need.

To the OP, I apologize for my part in turning this into a train wreck.
I do hope you are able to gleam some useful information here. I wish you the best of luck in your journey and putting down the smokes. Most here are quite helpful, but there are always fanboys.


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Not trying to derail it so I'll leave it at that. You have your opinion I have mine. I'm looking out for what's best for OP. My favorite mod is the vt133 but I wouldn't recommend it to a new user. I just don't understand why you are telling him it's hard to use when it isn't though and recommended a mod where there is a weekly thread of someone having issues with it.

Anyway OP I hope you get what you need. I'm going to leave this thread now. Just want to say let's all just enjoy the hobby and not turn the forums into a cesspool. Maybe @Deucesjack might want to chime in though.

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[fq06]

I've had a rx200 in rotation for almost a year without any issues, just don't cross thread the atty when you put it on and the threads will be just fine.
I don't vape at 200w+ so the wire gauge they use is more than ample for my needs. I use that when I need the longevity of 3 cells but if 2 cells will do me I use a mod I built with a 350j chip.

I mentioned the 2/3 for it's decent chip that's easy to use, very versatile and can be found for $40, but I would recommend any mod over any model smok so whatever fits his budget.

 

[Deucesjack]

Only because I was asked, for the record I personally would take a G2 over any RX especially if the difference is only $10. I would also take a G2 over any Smok product including the Cheese Grater. If your going to buy an ugly mod like the Cheese Grater you might as well get an ugly mod that TC's anything and fires anything. The G2 is indeed ugly but she vapes anything like a boss.

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[fq06]

G2's have dropped that low? Lowest I've seen is at ecig for $75... and that's the ugly version with the silver ohm, not solid.

I would think of picking up a G2 if they were $50... but then again... there's a G3 now so I would probably have remorse for not getting that one

Besides, next time I get the itch it will be a DNA200 so nevermind, don't tempt me with a $50 G2

 

[BrewBear]

Is there a G3? Where?

 

[fq06]

My error, sorry to get you worked up then let you down.
Thought I saw G3 when I was searching but it was a speculation post talking about it may be coming...

 

[BrewBear]

Ohhhh, maaann!! Now I'll just have to wait? ?? Again???

 

[Deucesjack]

Is there a G3? Where?

Haven't heard of the G3 yet. Ben told me they're doing a triple 18650 mod and a dual 26650 mod called the Homerun. Both mods will not be sold here due to the new regulations.

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