Dual coil builds

[VapeS1000r]

Hi everyone

My system:
Rx200s
Tsunami 24
Limitless plus


If I have a single fused Clapton rated at 0.3 ohms

It'll require certain voltage & amps to reach a certain point.
Let's say I prefer vaping at 65 watts


If I set it up as a dual coil, I realize that my ohms will be halved, to 0.15

My question is, by doubling coils and coming up with 0.15, is that like having a single 0.15 coil in there?

And by doubling coils, and effectively reducing ohms, naturally I'll require less watts to reach that point I referred to earlier, right?

Or with less resistance, device will require more watts to reach that point?

I understand by having dual coils, I'll get more vapor (I'm not cloud chasing), and I'll get more vapor faster because the coils will heat up faster as well?

I guess I'm trying to understand the implication of dual vs single.

Thanks

#1VapeS1000r, A moment ago

 

[Neunerball]

Hi everyone

My system:
Rx200s
Tsunami 24
Limitless plus


If I have a single fused Clapton rated at 0.3 ohms

It'll require certain voltage & amps to reach a certain point.
Let's say I prefer vaping at 65 watts


If I set it up as a dual coil, I realize that my ohms will be halved, to 0.15

My question is, by doubling coils and coming up with 0.15, is that like having a single 0.15 coil in there?

And by doubling coils, and effectively reducing ohms, naturally I'll require less watts to reach that point I referred to earlier, right?

Or with less resistance, device will require more watts to reach that point?

I understand by having dual coils, I'll get more vapor (I'm not cloud chasing), and I'll get more vapor faster because the coils will heat up faster as well?

I guess I'm trying to understand the implication of dual vs single.

Thanks

#1VapeS1000r, A moment ago

On the contrary, lower resistance requires more power, due to more mass, especially with Clapton coils.

 

[VapeS1000r]

More power (wattage) but less voltage? More amps.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Hi everyone

My system:
Rx200s
Tsunami 24
Limitless plus


If I have a single fused Clapton rated at 0.3 ohms

It'll require certain voltage & amps to reach a certain point.
Let's say I prefer vaping at 65 watts


If I set it up as a dual coil, I realize that my ohms will be halved, to 0.15

My question is, by doubling coils and coming up with 0.15, is that like having a single 0.15 coil in there?

And by doubling coils, and effectively reducing ohms, naturally I'll require less watts to reach that point I referred to earlier, right?

Or with less resistance, device will require more watts to reach that point?

I understand by having dual coils, I'll get more vapor (I'm not cloud chasing), and I'll get more vapor faster because the coils will heat up faster as well?

I guess I'm trying to understand the implication of dual vs single.

Thanks

#1VapeS1000r, A moment ago

a simple way to look at is is more metal = more wattage needed. It's not the resistance itself per se.
2 coils will give you more vapor then a single coil if the right wattage is used. Everything is so adjustable it's really hard to give 1 way to do things when there are many and everyone has different preferences.

Right now I'm using a single 4 wrap fused clapton SS316L coil in an aeronaut. 75 watts and in temp control mode, and it gives great flavor and vapor production. dual coil or single coil is preference. I can get pretty much the same production of flavor and vapor on a single coil then I can on a double with less wattage too. The main difference I see is the heat. double coils get way hotter

 

[VapeS1000r]

Thanks

My question is, if one coil is 0.3

It's 0.3 resistance because of physical/intrinsic properties properties, not because of heresy.
So by doubling coils, we haven't changed those physical properties that yielded 0.3.

How come resistance is halved when nothing physical was halved.

Either it should remain 0.3 per coil or amount to 0.6 if the mod prefers to recognize two coils as one.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Thanks

My question is, if one coil is 0.3

It's 0.3 resistance because of physical/intrinsic properties properties, not because of heresy.
So by doubling coils, we haven't changed those physical properties that yielded 0.3.

How come resistance is halved when nothing physical was halved.

Either it should remain 0.3 per coil or amount to 0.6 if the mod prefers to recognize two coils as one.

Think of it this way. If you have 2 garden hoses that are the same size and you have the same water pressure coming from the source, if you split the source in 2 and use both hoses then the water would come out of each hose at half the rate that it would if you only used 1 hose. the power from the mod, now gets split in 2 between each coil so there is less resistance total for the build. In the case of the hose the water flowing through it has more room with 2 hoses then it does with 1 hose hence less resistance. You basically doubled the amount of space the water has to flow though, hence it meets half the resistance of before

Sorry If i did a terrible job explaining it lol

 

[VapeS1000r]

I see. No, you did a great job. Thank you.

Then resistance must not be calculated at the coils themselves.

I guess resistance is calculated after the loop is completed. The loop here being amps leaving battery, going through could, returning to battery.

Also, I'd assumed the voltage wasn't fixed. In that because I had two coils, my device was pushing double of what it would on a single coil.

 

[SirRichardRear]

I see. No, you did a great job. Thank you.

Then resistance must not be calculated at the coils themselves.

I guess resistance is calculated after the loop is completed. The loop here being amps leaving battery, going through could, returning to battery.

Also, I'd assumed the voltage wasn't fixed. In that because I had two coils, my device was pushing double of what it would on a single coil.

That is correct. Mods measure the resistance of the total circuit not just the coils. Thats why some mods can read a coil a little higher then others

Your device will push whatever voltage you set it to regardless of how many coils you have. What changes is the amperage. if you have your device set at 4.2 volts and your resistance is .3 it's pushing 14 amps, If you put in 2 coils lowering the resistance to .15 but keep the voltage at 4.2 now you are pushing 28 amps. The wattage also would adjust as well. with the single .3 coil it would be 58.8 with the dual .15 coil setup it would be 117.6

 

[gtrpickr]

Think of it this way. If you have 2 garden hoses that are the same size and you have the same water pressure coming from the source, if you split the source in 2 and use both hoses then the water would come out of each hose at half the rate that it would if you only used 1 hose. the power from the mod, now gets split in 2 between each coil so there is less resistance total for the build. In the case of the hose the water flowing through it has more room with 2 hoses then it does with 1 hose hence less resistance. You basically doubled the amount of space the water has to flow though, hence it meets half the resistance of before

Sorry If i did a terrible job explaining it lol

I like the garden hose analogy

 

[VapeS1000r]

That is correct. Mods measure the resistance of the total circuit not just the coils. Thats why some mods can read a coil a little higher then others

Your device will push whatever voltage you set it to regardless of how many coils you have. What changes is the amperage. if you have your device set at 4.2 volts and your resistance is .3 it's pushing 14 amps, If you put in 2 coils lowering the resistance to .15 but keep the voltage at 4.2 now you are pushing 28 amps. The wattage also would adjust as well. with the single .3 coil it would be 58.8 with the dual .15 coil setup it would be 117.6

This may sound elementary and it probably is, but on my rx200s, I'm not setting voltage. Just wattage.

 

[SirRichardRear]

This may sound elementary and it probably is, but on my rx200s, I'm not setting voltage. Just wattage.

Thats correct. most mods go by wattage now including the RX200. Some go by Joules

 

[VapeS1000r]

So

Resistance is fixed by could
Wattage is fixed by me
It looks like voltage is also fixed by me when I set wattage.


Does the chip then manipulate amps only?

 

[SirRichardRear]

So

Resistance is fixed by could
Wattage is fixed by me
It looks like voltage is also fixed by me when I set wattage.


Does the chip then manipulate amps only?

Resistance is fixed based on the coil build.
Wattage is adjusted by you
Voltage is a reference only at that point, not needed because the mod will adjust it accordingly based on your resistance/wattage
amperage is not shown nor calculated but the mod will limit you from putting too much amps through. So if you set the mod at say 250 watts with a ,1ohm build (which obviously I don't recommend) the mod will either give you an error or just throttle it down and not actually fire at the 250 watts (not sure which one your mod does)

Just make sure you are using good batteries. no cheap 5 amp batteries labeled as 45 amp batteries. What batteries are you using?

 

[VapeS1000r]

Fresh LG hg2 batteries

 

[SirRichardRear]

Fresh LG hg2 batteries

Perfect