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Nah, I'm trying to lose 20 pounds...
I'm not a hypocrite. I'm pointing out that Trump is corrupt. I'm not telling anyone not to vote for him, or saying I can't vote for him because of his corruption. This year both parties nominated a corrupt politician. Most people who vote will end up voting for one of the two. Furthermore, I never said Trump was corrupt because he donated. I said he was corrupt because he said he wasn't donating to help their campaign, he was buying political favor.
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At one point. Very nice folks up there..even the troopers.
Bro, the present is made up from the past. Not learning from the pastYou have to move on bro, we can't live in the past!!!
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and not keeping it in mind is not a wise thing.
Read the post I quoted. He brought it up saying he could claim to be a Marine. Thus I said I don't have to claim to be, I am one. I don't know why that would intimidate anyone. It was 20 years ago and I'm not in nearly that kind of shape anymore.
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I'm a trucker. I'm originally from Connecticut though.
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From Super Mormon and McStain.
You are a hypocrite. The definition of hypocrite.
- 1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
- 2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
adjective
Well...like you said, it was. Since it was, it ain't.
I prefer to let dead dogs lie. Some things are best forgotten.
I've met some good people from Connecticut. But Tenn is much nicer.
Those roads carved through the mountains are beautiful
What's funny about that is
They always go back to bill Clinton and always skipped how fucked up bush was!!
That's all I'm saying!!!
Blaming game....
bill fucked it up
How come bush didn't do shit?
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Yea but in context it don't mean shit. PV was being facetious.
McCain was a horrible candidate. Can't stand the guy, but he was better than Obama so I voted for him. I'm not aware of Romney being corrupt, but it wouldn't shock me if he is.
You're missing the point because you guys keep lying about what I said. I absolutely have voted for corrupt politicians when there was no reasonable alternative. I'm not saying don't vote for Trump, I'm just saying that he's corrupt. Pick your poison though because so is she.
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What's funny about that is
They always go back to bill Clinton and always skipped how fucked up bush was!!
That's all I'm saying!!!
Blaming game....
bill fucked it up
How come bush didn't do shit?
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Bullshit.
Bush did fuck up. But he wasn't married to fucking Hillary and she's the one running for Pres.
Damn you're dumb.
That's called tolerance.... In the 21st century.
Used to be you were a bigot if you noticed or a even acknowlged a difference. Now....... treating everybody the same is racist.
What scares the politicians and party faithful about Trump. Both sides... Is..... he is mainly NON partisan... He is also pro UNITED STATES of AMERICA.
He is a "businessman", Pro following laws as they were written and intended, he is pro FAIRNESS (see dictionary), he is anti illegal and uncontrolled immigration. These among others make him fit better with the Republicans.. Although he probably really fits better as a libertarian.
What's funny about that is
They always go back to bill Clinton and always skipped how fucked up bush was!!
That's all I'm saying!!!
Blaming game....
bill fucked it up
How come bush didn't do shit?
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I seem to remember PV mentioning Bush being corrupt.
Ok, I'll say it. Bush, both Dubya and Sr are corrupt as they come.
911 was an inside job and Dubya was in the huddle.
Moreover, Iraq and Saddam were set up to take the fall and there never were any WMD.
Those motherfuckers are responsible for the shit that Obummer has perpetuated and Hillary will continue if elected.
Happy now?
Was? Sure. Once a Marine, always a Marine. Would you prefer I was ashamed of it? I'm not, and I won't ever be. If that bothers you that's your problem not mine.
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No, you say he is corrupt. You saying it does not make it so.
I don't vote for people that I think are corrupt. Your opinion has failed to prove anything to me, or I'd write in Ron Paul again.
Oh, me no needy dicktonaree man.
Yea, he probably does fit Libertarian much better than the Libertarian guy.
Why can't you reply without insults?
The fuck is wrong with you?!
You got issues like ur cousin pv
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He was the only candidate running who has had a judgement against him for hiring illegal aliens.
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Man, you just made me agree with these other guys.
Twenty years back you WERE a Marine. Now you're an overweight trucker.
Yea, my problem is I prefer to forget blood and guts.
How many ears you got? See.
Up your Semper fi.
Oh look, Semper Fi turned into a link for a cute lamp
Lol. Knock yourself out. What's your problem with Marines? Or overweight truckers for that matter. Just rub some dirt on it, you'll be alright.
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Why can't you reply without insults?
The fuck is wrong with you?!
You got issues like ur cousin pv
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Like I said before, adults are talking and we don't always have time to explain things to you children.
So, I'm blunt.
It's not because I don't love you, sweetie pie. But you should be outside playing with the other children.
In other words, no ears.
Thought so.
You should live this long.Night night grumpy old farts!!
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Good night, son.
Nah, don't. But you did notice the thread title, right?
Once again, to quote the Donald...
“As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” Mr. Trump said. “As a businessman, I need that.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-his-past-politics-were-transactional-1438213199
From Webster.
Definition of corruption
: dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials or police officers)
: the act of corrupting someone or something
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corruption
If Hillary is corrupt (I think we both agree she is) for her pay to play bs, than so by definition are those we who paid to play.
So, it's not me saying he is corrupt, it's him saying he is corrupt.
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Ask yourself this.
Any Vet who tried suffered for this current health care fiasco back in 94?
Who started in the VA as a test run?
Who told their military to stand down within 150' of OBL?
Who was in charge of the white house for WTC in 94, OKC, Waco and Ruby Ridge? and who's lack of foreign policy directly led to the 9/11 attacks?
Who sold nation secrets for donations?
Sure the fuck was NOT Mango.
Um, no. It's you saying he is corrupt. He did not say he is corrupt. That's your interpretation of his words. It's no different than the people that re-interpret his words to claim that he is racist. You're like listening to the media talking heads and changing his words to make him say something he did not say.
He said it to point out that his running mates were corrupt. That's the way I took it. Just like I don't re-interpret his words to call him a racist.
I've said this over and over. I do not make the correlations you do. I do not agree with them at all. Donating to a corrupt politician is not the same as being a corrupt politician. You yourself said you vote for corrupt politicians. Does that make you corrupt? Of course not.
You keep going back to weak correlations like they are fucking written in scientific journals. They are weak, at best. They are not fact.
I agree they are almost as weak as ej is on the whole.
+ 95% of the Marines need shit in illustration form.
Not that I have much faith in the Huffington POSt, The Washington POSt, or much sympathy for a certain element
of our world population but
I thought some of Trash's post was familiar.
This is why:
"What was the Haditha Massacre? On November 19, 2005, U.S. Marines from Kilo Company, Third Battalion, First Marine Division killed 24 unarmed civilians in Haditha, Iraq, execution-style, in a three to five hour rampage. One victim was a 76-year-old amputee in a wheelchair holding a Koran. A mother and child bent over as if in prayer were also among the fallen. “I pretended that I was dead when my brother’s body fell on me and he was bleeding like a faucet,” said Safa Younis Salim, a 13-year-old girl who survived by faking her death. Other victims included six children ranging in age from 1 to 14. Citing doctors at Haditha’s hospital, The Washington Post reported, “Most of the shots ... were fired at such close range that they went through the bodies of the family members and plowed into walls or the floor.”
Read: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marjorie-cohn/haditha-marines_b_1248659.html
That shit brought back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
though on a much smaller scale...
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That's not my interpretation of his words. That's why I posted the dictionary definition of the word "corruption". By definition, not interpretation, what he did is corruption. You're not refuting my interpretation, you're refuting his words or the definition of words.
As for this silly thing where you keep claiming I said that donating to a corrupt politician is the same as being one, I can't help you with that because I never said it and I have repeatedly pointed out that I never said it. You're using that as a strawman because you can't beat what I actually said. Both Hillary and Trump are corrupt by the definition of the word. Her pay for play makes her corrupt. The definition of corruption states that the act of corrupting someone is also corruption. Meaning, not only is the seller of influence corrupt, so is the buyer. You can't get around that.
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Lmao. I was 3rd Recruit Training Battalion Kilo Company in boot camp. I wasn't 3rd Battalion First Marines. But nice try.
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Soooooooo........ that's the risk you take when you HIRE people.
Let's see disrcrimination lawsuit, Big $$, for not hiring them... or small fine for hiring them....... Which would you choose?????? (not saying that what Trump did.... But it is a real world situation.)
No, they were hired to get around paying union wages, hence the union brought the lawsuit against him. The court rendered a judgement which he appealed and subsequently settled before the appeal was heard.
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illegal alien or not.. The fact that it was about Over priced union labor.. I'm even more on Trumps side. Definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
Lmao, I support him because you're right, shillary DOES have a record. A shitty one, pure dog shit. Plenty of inmates at Riker's with a 'record', doesn't mean they're fit for any particular purpose. A first lady to an impeached draft dodging president who defended the rapist. A senator who didn't do jack shit for New York. A sec of state who has the midas touch of turning everything she touches to shit. Iran deal? Benghazi? Yeaaa, that's the 'record' and 'experience' I want running my country.
Trump games the system using legal methods at his disposal. So long as it actually did our country some good I don't think I'd have a problem with someone even doing things illegally. Shillary? That halfwit fucktard gets caught no matter what she does, she's a crook and she sucks at it. She put her confidence in Platte River, some hillbilly Colorado firm who it's been confirmed their "IT techs" went to reddit of all fucking places to learn how to do their job of removing email addy's off backed up files. You have the audacity to call Trump a noob? Lmfao that's rich. Yea sure, I'll launder some money for you. Just gimme a minute to go get my buddy and wait for him to learn how on reddit. Good lord it's worse than a script from a bad comedy like "Office Space" lol.
I'm more of an independent, no love for the dems or republicans. I choose to use the lump 3ft above my ass for more than a hat rack and it's not even a matter of choosing between this candidate or that candidate. Shillary is a complete and utter failure and an absolute no-go. When she's not being peeled back up off the ground with a spatula or all doped up she's spouting bullshit and lies.
The one question asked of every single shillary supporter whether part of her staff, pundits, whoever - "name one successful thing Clinton has done". It stumps every last one of them. No one can come up with an answer because after over 30yrs in government she doesn't have shit but failures and scandals to show for it.
Her best bet at this stage is for her and slick willy to go crawl into a hole somewhere at some undisclosed retirement home and enjoy their dirty scandal money and grandchildren for the next few years til they croak. So wrapped up in her legacy and continuing obummer's failed 'legacy' that she fails to realize the one real legacy she leaves behind. Grandkids who have to deal with the fact that 'grandma' is one of the most crooked, most hated lying bitch's of all time full stop. The saying "quit while you're behind" apparently went in one ear and out the other on that one. I don't just mean the short term in this election, I'm referring to her entire stint.
As to Trump never holding public office, you're right. He hasn't, and he's still doing better than career politicians. He beat out what 17 other contenders? Outlasted Bernie Sanders, something shillary nearly didn't do. That includes other ceo's, other outsiders, senators, governors, even those who should have been a shoe in like the beloved Bush. Poster child for the republican party. Not bad for 'just some guy off the street', must really be chapping the asses of those career politicians when he jumps in with 0 'political' experience and hands all their asses to them at their own game. He's also topping shillary in several key states despite being outspent 5 to 1 so he's proving he can get the job done for far less wasteful spending. Just one more inherent problem our government has. Not half bad for a rookie eh? So yea, I'd say it makes pretty damn good sense. At least to those who have common sense.
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Cmon dude, let's hear your side.... There's a shit ton to read from lastnight between 2 people here. Politics gets heated quick!Good morning️
And shut the hell up!!
All I hear is blah b blah b blah....
Don't matter how you all justify ur candidates
They are all
FUCK UP!!
Have a good day
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This should get things rolling, all you Hillary supports are going down.
YOUR FIRED!
Lol.... just because I don't like tramp it doesn't mean I'm for that bitch
I don't like anything that's moves in the fucking witch house bro, don't like politicians, don't like people that act like they know shit, like a lot of people here that keep repeating what they say...
Two words
MOVE ON
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