Confused :S

[alba4a]

Ok. Cool Fire Plus Iv, goes until 7V that means 70 W.
I am using it on 3.5 ( 30 W). To be honest this is a mess, I dont understand yet how I am going to use this mod on 70 w :S. I think If I do that I will burn the coil. I am using Fury Tank (is a really good tank).(0.4 COIL)
Anyway, what tank should I get to use my Cool fire iv plus on 50 W / 60 W? :S I am confused like beginner :S

By the way... sorry about my ignorance but is Cool Fire IV Plus a mod for begginers??? if is not... what mod for advance should I get ?? and what tank? I want something really powerfull

Thanks!!!!!!

 

[forza]

I am so confused. Why do you want to use it at 70w? If you're happy with the vape you're getting at 30w then that's fine. There's nothing that says you must go up to 70w just because the mod can do it.

It's a good mod for beginners. It's a good mod in general. I have one and I've been vaping quite some time.

Basically you're wattage deals with the ohms on your coil, so at .4 ohms you can conceivably go up to around 50w. The lower the ohms the more power you need.

Generally, the best idea is to start at a low wattage and gradually increase it until you are happy with your vape (temp, vapor production, flavor).

I'm sure there will be others later who have far more knowledge than I do.

 

[Lotus Insane]

The amount of Volts will actually change depending on the resistance. So lower resistance builds (coils) will actually mean the higher watts will equal a lower voltage compared to when you have a higher resistance build. (coil)

I can't find an Anyvape .4ohm coil on their website so it is hard to tell you in a matter of fact if it will burn or not. "Usually" the manufacturer of the coils will place a wattage range for the coil itself which is your "safety" range of recommended firing.

To make things easier, switch over to wattage mode instead of voltage mode on your Cool Fire 4 plus. <--Personal opinion

Concerning the Cool Fire 4 plus, I wouldn't say it is a mod for beginners, the only thing I see that it can't do is temperature control, and hey, I am not even in the temp control area yet. If you are just going to use (or build) coils out of kanthal that aren't "exotic" builds, the mod should work just fine for you.

To become more "advanced" in vaping, first thing you should do is understand and use Ohms Law. Possibly start getting into rebuildables, cause that opens Pandora's Box to be honest. If you would want a tank, check out RTA's so you get the rebuilding experience as well as the benefit of using a tank.

Hope this helps info helps in some way or another, and also invite anyone to add or clarify any statements I have made.

 

[nightshard]

You should switch your mod to VW then totally ignore the voltage and set the wattage according to your liking and the tank limitations.

The fact that your mod can reach a specific max wattage doesn't mean that you need to reach it, just like you don't need to reach the max speed of your car.

 

[alba4a]

Oh my god!!! this thing about Ohms and W.... is a mess.. They should do online courses hahahah (if they could do it in spanish that would be nice too )

Ey guys, what mod are you using ???? and what tank¿

Thanks for your answers

 

[Countrypami]

Ok. Cool Fire Plus Iv, goes until 7V that means 70 W.
I am using it on 3.5 ( 30 W). To be honest this is a mess, I dont understand yet how I am going to use this mod on 70 w :S. I think If I do that I will burn the coil. I am using Fury Tank (is a really good tank).(0.4 COIL)
Anyway, what tank should I get to use my Cool fire iv plus on 50 W / 60 W? :S I am confused like beginner :S

By the way... sorry about my ignorance but is Cool Fire IV Plus a mod for begginers??? if is not... what mod for advance should I get ?? and what tank? I want something really powerfull

Thanks!!!!!!

Cool Fire IV Plus is fine for a beginner. It is best paired with an iSub tank... I would recommend either the iSub G or iSub S, Kanger Subtank is also a great reliable flavor tank.
I agree with @nightshard , forget about voltage.. switch it to VW mode and vape at what ever wattage tastes good to you. Just because the mod is capable of 70w does not mean you have to use it that high. Most people I know rarely go over 50w.

 

[rdsok]

I'm with the others about just using wattage instead of the voltage setting.. it's easier to deal with.

Ohm's Law isn't really that difficult... what makes it seem difficult is that you have 4 potential values you are working with... so there are several different formulas and which one you use... depends on what value you are trying to calculate. Each formula by themselves are not that tough, basic simple math.... Still, it's easier just to use an ohms law calculator to do the calcs for ya. Here is a little schooling on it anyway just for the info... http://www.hamuniverse.com/ohmslaw.html

Mod limitations... While the mod in question is able to output up to 70w... that is still dependent on it also not exceeding any of the other limitations. There are the minimum/maximum voltages that must not be exceeded. The ohms ranges also must not be exceeded. The final limitation will be the total amperage that the device is capable of. This is one place that being able to calculate ohms law can help you avoid exceeding the specs of the device.

When you listed the ohms resistance of the coil ( at 0.4Ω ) ... you asked where it'd get burned out at. The only problem is the ohms isn't what determines that. It is a matter of the gauge ( diameter ) and length of the wire in question. A small gauge wire of a certain length can have the same ohms as a larger gauge wire that is longer. A smaller ( finer ) gauge ( larger numbers mean smaller diameter ) wire will burn out quicker and easier than a larger gauge wire.

The temps of the coils and eliquid are pretty important also. You don't want to exceed what either can handle. How much surface area the wire has ( based on the gauge and length of the wire ) and how much eliquid can be wicked to the coils will determine how hot everything gets. So it's the surface area of the coil in combination with how fast the wicks can deliver the eliquid that will determine when something ( coil or the juice ) burns...

Another area that wasn't mentioned... was what temp the eliquid itself may be able to handle without it tasting burnt or the flavor dropping off. As a rule of thumb ( that isn't always right actually ), more delicate flavors usually can not stand the higher voltages/wattage's as well as bolder flavors may be able to handle.


So... what wattage/voltage you end up using... will depend on how fast you are able to wick the juice to the coils. The more juice you get, the cooler the coils can stay and the higher the settings that can be used. Just because you can go to higher settings, doesn't mean that will give you the best flavor or the most vapor... many other factors come into play also.

 

[celticluvr]

Oh my god!!! this thing about Ohms and W.... is a mess.. They should do online courses hahahah (if they could do it in spanish that would be nice too )

Ey guys, what mod are you using ???? and what tank¿

Thanks for your answers

I bought the Cool Fire IV Plus in a kit with the iSub Apex... It has coils you can buy for it (0.5ohm claptons) the can go from 30-70 watts. I vape those at 55 watts. That's my Happy place. You don't have to go the full wattage if you have a place where you are happy to vape at.

 

[Paratech]

Another point just to toss out there;
If you are using your device at it's max capability, you'll dramatically shorted the battery charge cycle.
You'll be recharging a lot more often while firing at 70 watts as compared to 30 watts.

 

[alba4a]

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I'm with the others about just using wattage instead of the voltage setting.. it's easier to deal with.

Ohm's Law isn't really that difficult... what makes it seem difficult is that you have 4 potential values you are working with... so there are several different formulas and which one you use... depends on what value you are trying to calculate. Each formula by themselves are not that tough, basic simple math.... Still, it's easier just to use an ohms law calculator to do the calcs for ya. Here is a little schooling on it anyway just for the info... http://www.hamuniverse.com/ohmslaw.html

Mod limitations... While the mod in question is able to output up to 70w... that is still dependent on it also not exceeding any of the other limitations. There are the minimum/maximum voltages that must not be exceeded. The ohms ranges also must not be exceeded. The final limitation will be the total amperage that the device is capable of. This is one place that being able to calculate ohms law can help you avoid exceeding the specs of the device.

When you listed the ohms resistance of the coil ( at 0.4Ω ) ... you asked where it'd get burned out at. The only problem is the ohms isn't what determines that. It is a matter of the gauge ( diameter ) and length of the wire in question. A small gauge wire of a certain length can have the same ohms as a larger gauge wire that is longer. A smaller ( finer ) gauge ( larger numbers mean smaller diameter ) wire will burn out quicker and easier than a larger gauge wire.

The temps of the coils and eliquid are pretty important also. You don't want to exceed what either can handle. How much surface area the wire has ( based on the gauge and length of the wire ) and how much eliquid can be wicked to the coils will determine how hot everything gets. So it's the surface area of the coil in combination with how fast the wicks can deliver the eliquid that will determine when something ( coil or the juice ) burns...

Another area that wasn't mentioned... was what temp the eliquid itself may be able to handle without it tasting burnt or the flavor dropping off. As a rule of thumb ( that isn't always right actually ), more delicate flavors usually can not stand the higher voltages/wattage's as well as bolder flavors may be able to handle.


So... what wattage/voltage you end up using... will depend on how fast you are able to wick the juice to the coils. The more juice you get, the cooler the coils can stay and the higher the settings that can be used. Just because you can go to higher settings, doesn't mean that will give you the best flavor or the most vapor... many other factors come into play also.[/QUOT



:O (lol)

 

[alba4a]

I'm with the others about just using wattage instead of the voltage setting.. it's easier to deal with.

Ohm's Law isn't really that difficult... what makes it seem difficult is that you have 4 potential values you are working with... so there are several different formulas and which one you use... depends on what value you are trying to calculate. Each formula by themselves are not that tough, basic simple math.... Still, it's easier just to use an ohms law calculator to do the calcs for ya. Here is a little schooling on it anyway just for the info... http://www.hamuniverse.com/ohmslaw.html

Mod limitations... While the mod in question is able to output up to 70w... that is still dependent on it also not exceeding any of the other limitations. There are the minimum/maximum voltages that must not be exceeded. The ohms ranges also must not be exceeded. The final limitation will be the total amperage that the device is capable of. This is one place that being able to calculate ohms law can help you avoid exceeding the specs of the device.

When you listed the ohms resistance of the coil ( at 0.4Ω ) ... you asked where it'd get burned out at. The only problem is the ohms isn't what determines that. It is a matter of the gauge ( diameter ) and length of the wire in question. A small gauge wire of a certain length can have the same ohms as a larger gauge wire that is longer. A smaller ( finer ) gauge ( larger numbers mean smaller diameter ) wire will burn out quicker and easier than a larger gauge wire.

The temps of the coils and eliquid are pretty important also. You don't want to exceed what either can handle. How much surface area the wire has ( based on the gauge and length of the wire ) and how much eliquid can be wicked to the coils will determine how hot everything gets. So it's the surface area of the coil in combination with how fast the wicks can deliver the eliquid that will determine when something ( coil or the juice ) burns...

Another area that wasn't mentioned... was what temp the eliquid itself may be able to handle without it tasting burnt or the flavor dropping off. As a rule of thumb ( that isn't always right actually ), more delicate flavors usually can not stand the higher voltages/wattage's as well as bolder flavors may be able to handle.


So... what wattage/voltage you end up using... will depend on how fast you are able to wick the juice to the coils. The more juice you get, the cooler the coils can stay and the higher the settings that can be used. Just because you can go to higher settings, doesn't mean that will give you the best flavor or the most vapor... many other factors come into play also.

(lol)

 

[Dan DePippo]

You should switch your mod to VW then totally ignore the voltage and set the wattage according to your liking and the tank limitations.

The fact that your mod can reach a specific max wattage doesn't mean that you need to reach it, just like you don't need to reach the max speed of your car.

The hell you don't.. I sure do need to max out the speed of my car.

 

[nightshard]

(lol)

@rdsok it's better to match the complexity of your answer to the complexity of the OP

 

[nightshard]

The hell you don't.. I sure do need to max out the speed of my car.

Well I would max my car to prove that it can be reached or when I'm in the middle of nowhere, but wouldn't drive like that all the time