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xJoseph

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Anybody has experienced both of these? I really need to spend money on RDA im pretty bored eith my collection because I have neither of them. So they're both side airflow, Totally different deck and post design and I know TM deck can fit pretty big builds just like the Goon, The TM is 22mm and there's 24mm version does it compare up to the Goon. I know the price of the Goon is higher but I don't really care we're all builder you know both of these is must have.
 

ben73

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Have you considered the Wolfpaw RDA its on sale 13£ genuine authentic BF pin for sqounker conversion too
Two top caps ss with a 510 and a 510 stabilised wood drip tip or a wide bore delrin chuff cap
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Side airflow works great as a sqounker atty too , ive one setup on the coppervapes bf mech mod

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Only have the Goon and I really like it.
Dismissed the old TM, but the TM24 is on my to-do list.
 

xJoseph

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Have you considered the Wolfpaw RDA its on sale 13£ genuine authentic BF pin for sqounker conversion too
Two top caps ss with a 510 and a 510 stabilised wood drip tip or a wide bore delrin chuff cap
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Side airflow works great as a sqounker atty too , ive one setup on the coppervapes bf mech mod

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Is it really wide airflow or a restrictive airflow I like both but I much prefer restrictive

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xJoseph

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Only have the Goon and I really like it.
Dismissed the old TM, but the TM24 is on my to-do list.
Same question like the another guy is it super wide airflow or a restrictive airflow. Some of my friends actually complained that its hard to put a build in the post but you can put huge ass coils in there for sure I completely disagree with that lol.

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Have a Goon and really like it. Bought a TM2 to check it out and didn't bother building it. Will likely get a TM24 though.
 

xJoseph

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Have a Goon and really like it. Bought a TM2 to check it out and didn't bother building it. Will likely get a TM24 though.
I feel like TM24 could match up agiasnt Goon if not consider the clamp post. How was building on the TM2 though?

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The airflow is adjustable so can be super wide with 3 holes open and restrictive with one.

It is harder to build dual coils then on a velocity since 2 leads have to fit in one space and it might be hard to fit 2 leads next to each other especially if they are wide and not round, but in that case you can fit them on top of each other.
The clamps are not spring loaded but what I do when faced with problems stuffing multiple leads in there is to unscrew the screws as much as possible the flip the deck upsidedown.
 

ben73

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Is it really wide airflow or a restrictive airflow I like both but I much prefer restrictive

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Wolfpaw Has fully adjustable air flow like the goon and twisted messes both directly on to your coil builds , i have a TM1 an a 24mm goon , got a few more RDA like virus rda on way , but using the wolfpaw more than the others , probably due to BF pin so convenient to use , so can be both wide open air or restricted , can do it two ways too have airflow via side slots vertical open or twist top cap and have them horizontal open for airflow , 2 top caps both have the fins the slot inside so can adjust the airflow

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Dual velocity style posts 4 post holes , an BF pin foe sqounker setup if needed
 
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Anybody has experienced both of these? I really need to spend money on RDA im pretty bored eith my collection because I have neither of them. So they're both side airflow, Totally different deck and post design and I know TM deck can fit pretty big builds just like the Goon, The TM is 22mm and there's 24mm version does it compare up to the Goon. I know the price of the Goon is higher but I don't really care we're all builder you know both of these is must have.
have you taken a look at the pharaoh. IMO best RDA for flavor
 

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I feel like TM24 could match up agiasnt Goon if not consider the clamp post. How was building on the TM2 though?

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It's just a really nice four post (that's physically a four hole two post). I didn't build it. I have other four posts. If you don't mind doing the work centering your coils they are fine. Velocity is still easier, if only because of the middle hole's coil legs being behind the opposite coil when you need to trim them.

Edit for grammar and to add that I prefer my Recoil to the TM Squared.
Edit two, adding to my first post above, my TM2 is a clone. One reason I didn't bother with building it after I checked it out.
 

xJoseph

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It's just a really nice four post (that's physically a four hole two post) I didn't build it. I have other four posts. If you don't mind doing the work centering your coils they are fine. Velocity is still easier, if only because of the middle hole's coil legs being behind the opposite coil when you need to trim them.
I like to call it two block post
The fact that when your center your coil in the two block post the result will comes out really sexy looking coils after you centered it

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The Virus RDA has side airflow an bottom you can choose which or both

Also there a RDTA called Cloudnus
Goon clamp deck on a tank build ,
Im currently looking at the Tesla captain RDTA
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since its deck has been designed for vertical dual coils and horizontal coil builds

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horizontal build

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ben73

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The airflow is adjustable so can be super wide with 3 holes open and restrictive with one.

It is harder to build dual coils then on a velocity since 2 leads have to fit in one space and it might be hard to fit 2 leads next to each other especially if they are wide and not round, but in that case you can fit them on top of each other.
The clamps are not spring loaded but what I do when faced with problems stuffing multiple leads in there is to unscrew the screws as much as possible the flip the deck upsidedown.
But on a dual plate clamps they can be built under an over , coil leads

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Another thing I like
...and it has the single airflow option the TM24 does not.

Another thing that I like about the Goon. I bought some Squidoode coils recently and they were ridiculously low resistance, like .07 for the pair. I just pulled one coil out of my Goon and changed the airflow to the single coil setup and ended up with .15ohm. This was just usable (with the right battery) on a tube mech, which is where my Goon normally resides.

Also, in regards to the difficulty of building dual coils...I'm just looking to vape them, not get likes on Instagram, so I just jam them in there, clamp them down, and straighten them out after.
 

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The airflow is adjustable so can be super wide with 3 holes open and restrictive with one.

It is harder to build dual coils then on a velocity since 2 leads have to fit in one space and it might be hard to fit 2 leads next to each other especially if they are wide and not round, but in that case you can fit them on top of each other.
The clamps are not spring loaded but what I do when faced with problems stuffing multiple leads in there is to unscrew the screws as much as possible the flip the deck upsidedown.

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morfius1963

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I have both of them and Ani twisted messes squared or regular beats the goon.


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morfius1963

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Don't get me wrong the goon is a nice RDA as well just not better then the twisted messes


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Very easy to build on and I used to dual Clapton. .18


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Don't know if its been mentioned but imo both apocalypse rda and outlaw rda are goon killers. And goon kills tm.

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morfius1963

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I didn't think the recoil came close to the goon. and the goon is a lot better than recoil in my opinion in the good and does not beat the twisted messes


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I like the big Goon in single coil mode.
A large clappy, 3mm id, 1.6 ohm,, plug installed.
Not too sexy eh?
Heavenly vape on a noisy cricket.
Hi-Voltage chasing hi resistance..
 

marco67

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I have TM 22mm & a Goon 22. .3 ohm slick coils 26awg. Goon a bit easier to build,, tit for tat.
Neither compare to my 'snubby' Nixon V2..
 

NickIsANoob

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I like the big Goon in single coil mode.
A large clappy, 3mm id, 1.6 ohm,, plug installed.
Not too sexy eh?
Heavenly vape on a noisy cricket.
Hi-Voltage chasing hi resistance..

You have a plug for the goon to reduce chamber size?
 

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Yes, also the large coil. I prefer small drippers,,
When i bought this i was in the middle of Panic buying in late July.
The noisy cricket is the ultimate Doomsday device,,super minimalist..
 

NickIsANoob

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Yes, also the large coil. I prefer small drippers,,
When i bought this i was in the middle of Panic buying in late July.
The noisy cricket is the ultimate Doomsday device,,super minimalist..

Where did you get it?
 

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I got a tm2 22mm, stainless/black version up for sale.
Builded on it twice and vaped on it once.

€50 ex shipping and its yours, DM me if ur intressted ;)
 

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I'll go with the goon all the way. My TM has only gone through maybe 2 builds and i just keep it on the shelf now. Depending on how you drip and how your builds are, on the TM if you get alot of spit back from your coils, you will have alot of juice getting stuck in between the outer afc ring and inner barrel, causing some leakage from the gaps when you go and turn your afc. I can say the same happens with the goon also, but atleast with the goon the spit back juice stays inside the barrel and eventually leak back down to the deck. Goon has single coil option. Easier to center your coils and build on the goon imo. Just takes maybe 1-2 builds and you will get the hang of the clamp style, the Goon has set my standards on all the things I look for in a good rda.

I recently decided to try out tanks and rdta, just because i hate dripping and driving, but when I do decide to bring out a rda or while im vaping at home, I always reach for the goon before anything else.
 

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Apocalypse RDA
I want one so bad... Price is Hott, so out my vape budget right now...

How does it vape?

I recently bought a Goon n that thing is awesome... Been looking at the TM24 to go with my first mech but after seeing that Apocalypse review man oh man

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NickIsANoob

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It's good, as good as the goon and TM. I would have a hard time choosing just one.

I have the exact same build in the TM24 and the apocalypse and if vape budget is a factor you will not be disappointed with the TM24 but the apocalypse is very good.
 

morfius1963

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A friend of mine just showed me the apocalypse RDA and I want one as well


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ben73

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Has anyone used the
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antman RDA made similar to the captain RDTA by Tesla for vertical builds along with horizontal builds
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Here is a pic of captain RDTA with decks shots of vertical chamber build and horizontal build looks very interesting the ant man RDA has the same deck but as a dripper ,

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ben73

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It does but might be limited by the ID of tbe coil

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ben73

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You would probably install it dry fire , then dismount /take out, Then wrap cotton wick an remounted id assume , but should give superior flavours from vertical coils , similar to buying vertical oem coils in standard tanks

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ben73

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Ive done similar with my supreme when i build vertical rather than fiddle with threading cotton through later , ok will take a bit to adjust but could be amazing looks to be very interesting design to me im certainly interested better design than the RVTA by smkon
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This one needs to be kept 3/4 full which is to keep coils submerged which is a design flaw to me , what is point in having a larger tanks capacity if needs to stay 3/4full ?
Where as the Tesla Capitan RDTA is fed from top/sides onto wick an built into deck so has some interesting design an such , im concidering buying this since its only 22£

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They both preform just the same but TM24 pulls ahead as far as aesthetics and ease of build. Post holes are simply easier to build with for dual coils IMO. The TM24 also was designed better for bottom/side airflow since the slot is lower on the deck compared to the goon. With the goon I would have to raise the coils to get them slightly above the AFC slot which would lengthen the amount of wick for each coil. The TM24 I would just align them where the post holes are and call it done for perfect alignment.

The AFC ring on the TM24 collects condensation but it hasn't leaked on me yet. The afc ring is very tight on the bottom to seal it up. Taking it apart you'll see it collecting there though.

TM24, for such a simple design, just seems like it was perfectly designed for how I like to vape and has replaced my goon.
 

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They both preform just the same but TM24 pulls ahead as far as aesthetics and ease of build. Post holes are simply easier to build with for dual coils IMO. The TM24 also was designed better for bottom/side airflow since the slot is lower on the deck compared to the goon. With the goon I would have to raise the coils to get them slightly above the AFC slot which would lengthen the amount of wick for each coil. The TM24 I would just align them where the post holes are and call it done for perfect alignment.

The AFC ring on the TM24 collects condensation but it hasn't leaked on me yet. The afc ring is very tight on the bottom to seal it up. Taking it apart you'll see it collecting there though.

TM24, for such a simple design, just seems like it was perfectly designed for how I like to vape and has replaced my goon.

Where did you get the tip for it?
 

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The tip for the goon is a moonshot 24 driptip that I made an adapter for. TM, I got from ebay.
 

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