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mokeife

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just got my first 4s lipo box and i love it 16.7 volts! please feel free to post builds you think i may like i would prefer clapton. the build i went with was a 10 wrap of twisted 24 around a 3 mm bit it ohms out to .33. i used twisted 24 becuase i didnt have any clapton on hand but i plan on mostly using clapton in the futuretwisted 24.jpg
 
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just got my first 4s lipo box and i love it 16.7 volts! please feel free to post builds you think i may like i would prefer clapton. the build i went with was a 10 wrap of twisted 24 around a 3 mm bit it ohms out to .33. i used twisted 24 becuase i didnt have any clapton on hand but i plan on mostly using clapton in the futureView attachment 66139

693 watts holy shit
 

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693 watts holy shit
it can go higher than that lol i think upwards of 2-3 thousand watts im not quite sure how to figure out my wattage yet i have my potentiometer set to 40 percent and i love it i didnt think i would but its a really nice warm vape
 

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it can go higher than that lol i think upwards of 2-3 thousand watts im not quite sure how to figure out my wattage yet i have my potentiometer set to 40 percent and i love it i didnt think i would but its a really nice warm vape

if you dont know how to calculte watts on a mech you should look that up
 

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if you dont know how to calculte watts on a mech you should look that up
i know how to do it on my series mech mod just not on the lipo since the potentiometer factors in im not quite sure which voltage reading i should plug in and ive tried looking it up i even made a post on here about it and noone seems to quite know how its done. im open to any ideas
 

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i know how to do it on my series mech mod just not on the lipo since the potentiometer factors in im not quite sure which voltage reading i should plug in

hmm... it might be more complicated than i thought
 

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Well *technically* a PWM mod is pulsing the battery at its full voltage potential. So, with a fully charged 4S pack (16.8v), and allowing for voltage sag under load, let's assume the pack can put, say, 14.2v across your .33ohm coil. In that case, each pulse is at over 43A (or right at about 20C for your 2.2ah pack, which is within its safety specifications), for a whopping 664 watts. In practice though, the actual results with PWM are a bit different. At a duty cycle of, say, 25%, the "effective," or RMS voltage would be around 7.1v (14.2v x SQRT(.25)) at 21.5A, or about 153 watts. In practice, the limits of your battery are with respect to time and wasted heat as well. So, even though each pulse is technically at the battery's full voltage, firing at 25% power for a relatively long period of time does not put more stress on your battery than firing at 80% power for a shorter period of time, even though it seems like it should.
 

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Well *technically* a PWM mod is pulsing the battery at its full voltage potential. So, with a fully charged 4S pack (16.8v), and allowing for voltage sag under load, let's assume the pack can put, say, 14.2v across your .33ohm coil. In that case, each pulse is at over 43A (or right at about 20C for your 2.2ah pack, which is within its safety specifications), for a whopping 664 watts. In practice though, the actual results with PWM are a bit different. At a duty cycle of, say, 25%, the "effective," or RMS voltage would be around 7.1v (14.2v x SQRT(.25)) at 21.5A, or about 153 watts. In practice, the limits of your battery are with respect to time and wasted heat as well. So, even though each pulse is technically at the battery's full voltage, firing at 25% power for a relatively long period of time does not put more stress on your battery than firing at 80% power for a shorter period of time, even though it seems like it should.
this build set at 40% seems to be over 153 watts though its twisted 24 10 wrap in a 30 mm rda and its a pretty warm vape maby hot to some. but that was very well said thanks for that
 

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this build set at 40% seems to be over 153 watts though its twisted 24 10 wrap in a 30 mm rda and its a pretty warm vape maby hot to some. but that was very well said thanks for that
Well at a 40% duty cycle (and keep in mind your pot might not be linear, as some are purposely programmed in a nonlinear manner in order to give more precise control, i.e., finer adjustment, at lower power settings), and assuming the other quantities from my previous post are unchanged, you'd be looking at something like 245 watts.

RMS voltage = 9.0v = 14.2v x SQRT(.40)
RMS current = 27.2a = 9.0v / .33ohms
RMS power = 245w = 9.0v x 27.2a
 

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Well at a 40% duty cycle (and keep in mind your pot might not be linear, as some are purposely programmed in a nonlinear manner in order to give more precise control, i.e., finer adjustment, at lower power settings), and assuming the other quantities from my previous post are unchanged, you'd be looking at something like 245 watts.

RMS voltage = 9.0v = 14.2v x SQRT(.40)
RMS current = 27.2a = 9.0v / .33ohms
RMS power = 245w = 9.0v x 27.2a
if i were to guess i would have said its from 200 to 250 and you naild it. i just need to learn how you calculated that but im starting to understand it much more so thank you for that as i couldnt find anything about this anywhere online till now
 

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