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bought a few ingredients and not getting desired taste
So i have made my first liquids and they taste bad, cant seem to get desired taste
got VG, PG, Nicotine, and got flavors, hazelnut, dx banana, butterscotch, pecan, dble chocolate dark, dx bavarian cream,

Looking for 1.)something Nutty,
2.)banana Flavour

somehow seem to be missing a sweetner and colorant?
Any pointers to a recipe with these ingredients?
 

Heabob

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NEW TO RECIPES
bought a few ingredients and not getting desired taste
So i have made my first liquids and they taste bad, cant seem to get desired taste
got VG, PG, Nicotine, and got flavors, hazelnut, dx banana, butterscotch, pecan, dble chocolate dark, dx bavarian cream,

Looking for 1.)something Nutty,
2.)banana Flavour

somehow seem to be missing a sweetner and colorant?
Any pointers to a recipe with these ingredients?

FW Hazelnut & Butter Pecan really don't need any sweeteners and are great even stand alone.
Start at 5-7%, or mix both together at 5% each.

FA Walnut, FA Nut Mix, FA Almond, & FA Marzipan are some other "good nuts" to play with:D
And they go well with some FA Cookie or INW Biscuit, or CAP Sugar Cookie v1.

1% FA Marshmallow + 1% FA Meringue will add a bit of sweetness and mouthfeel if desired.
1-2% FA Jamaican Rum or TFA Brown Sugar are a couple others that add sweetness.

TFA Banana Cream works good for me stand alone at 5-10% depending on the strength you like.
Add a couple drops of TFA Banana Ripe if you want more Banana.

(Keep in mind that Banana flavors will melt the rubber inside your syringes)
(Best to use a cheapo scale, glass syringe, or drops)

Color may or may not develop over time, usually it's the NIC turning yellow.
Nothing to worry about with the color tho.
 

AndriaD

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Colorant is the very last thing you'd want in a vape. If it needs to be sweeter, then add some sweetener. I prefer TFA's Sweetener; it's *just* sweet, none of that icky artificial whang that I get from other brands of sucralose. Usual advice is, don't add much when you start, because you can't get it back out once it's in there, and that stuff is highly concentrated, intensely sweet. I'd suggest starting to add sweetener at .5%, but even that might be too much; maybe start at .1%, and add more .1%'s if needed.

Andria
 
Thanks to all who replied.
I did a stand alone mix on all the flavours for now 30ml @ 6mg with (10% flavour 3ml), and that worked pretty well,
Not only can i see what i like but can mix ready made flavors together,
Guess that is the start to making your own recipes.

Most of the flavours are there but not so prominant @ 10% and not so sweet as juice that i have purchased
Now i can start with simple recipes

Already my banana and bavarian cream works pretty well.

i think adding brown sugar or caramel will help sweetner, Thanks AndriaD will try sweetner, truth is i had it on my list then scratched it last minute might be the best option

So thanks guys
 
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AndriaD

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Thanks to all who replied.
I did a stand alone mix on all the flavours for now 30ml @ 6mg with (10% flavour 3ml), and that worked pretty well,
Not only can i see what i like but can mix ready made flavors together,
Guess that is the start to making your own recipes.

Most of the flavours are there but not so prominant @ 10% and not so sweet as juice that i have purchased
Now i can start with simple recipes

Already my banana and bavarian cream works pretty well.

i think adding brown sugar or caramel will help sweetner, Thanks AndriaD will try sweetner, truth is i had it on my list then scratched it last minute might be the best option

So thanks guys

Also -- when you mix stand-alone like that, then mix those together, you're actually getting more PG/VG than anything else, which might be part of the problem, too much dilution. When you mix flavors *together* then you only have one batch's worth of PG/VG, so the flavors are more concentrated.

I understand the urge to do that, mix stand-alone then mix together, because I wanted to do that when I started too, to try and find out how each flavor tasted, on its own... but you don't end up with a very good product that way. I've found exactly ONE flavoring that's good all by itself: TFA's Banana Nut Bread... mixed at about 11%... and even it is better with a smidge of sweetener.

Andria

ETA: also -- most commercial ejuice is at least 20%-25% flavoring -- and even that wasn't enough for me, at first; I found all commercial ejuice watered-down, and not sweet enough; when I started DIY and mixed my strawberry & cream, I could actually TASTE it, not just smell it -- it was 31% flavoring, and 2.5% of that was sweetener. :D
 

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