CoilArt Mage Problem

[ralph029]

I bought a Mage and I really want to like this. I built it up with a couple Clapton coils and put it all together. The juice leaked pretty bad (like drained 3 mil in in about 3 minutes. I pulled it apart, ran everything through the ultrasonic, rewicked it, and put it all back together again. Same thing happened. I repeated the above again (after watching a couple vid's) to see if there was something I was missing. Nope, still did it. I rebuilt the damn thing (o-rings) and tried again. Still same damn thing.Needless to say... I'm not happy at all.

 

[heateris]

Post a photo of your build all wicked up.


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[ralph029]

Pics as requested

 

[VaporCarp]

All O-rings are in place? Wicking looks good to me

 

[ralph029]

All O-rings are in place? Wicking looks good to me

Yep, the o-rings are seated properly to the best of my ability. That's what I assumed the issue was to start so I replaced them all to no avail.

 

[VaporCarp]

Yep, the o-rings are seated properly to the best of my ability. That's what I assumed the issue was to start so I replaced them all to no avail.

With all that wick I'd think you'd be getting some dry hits not leaking lol. Good luck with it.

 

[heateris]

Man, wick looks good. Are you tightening the chimney base all down into the atty base? Both o-rings installed for the top cap? If you draw with the airholes block, feel next to no airflow?

I would definitely say it's vacuum/ sealing problem.


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[ralph029]

Man, wick looks good. Are you tightening the chimney base all down into the atty base? Both o-rings installed for the top cap? If you draw with the airholes block, feel next to no airflow?

I would definitely say it's vacuum/ sealing problem.

Yep, both o-rings are in place and with the air holes closed it's next to impossible to draw through. The addy doesn't leak until I fire it up for the first draw. It did sit with juice in it before I put it on the mod for 5 minutes without leaking. Once I drew on it, it started to leak. I did not change out the pyrex tank and will do so once I have it in me again to clean up another mess.

 

[ralph029]

I guess I put my last reply in the wrong spot, duh!

That's it. I'm done with this. Nothing I can do can stop the FLOW of e juice running out of this thing. There must be some threading issue that I can not detect. It is not leaking from the tank area but internally. Maybe I can use this for spare parts.

 

[heateris]

Wish I could help. Maybe contact coil art.


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[Heartsdelight]

Did you try the burping method? Close airflow, fill but this time not all the way (so u don't lose more juice) put top cap on turn upside down open airflow flip back right side up. It's worth a shot your wicking looks fine, and if there aren't any o rings missing.

 

[ralph029]

Did you try the burping method? Close airflow, fill but this time not all the way (so u don't lose more juice) put top cap on turn upside down open airflow flip back right side up. It's worth a shot your wicking looks fine, and if there aren't any o rings missing.

Kind of new to the building thing. didn't know about the burping method. I'll give it a shot. I would imagine it can't hurt. I didn't see anything that would indicate a missing o-ring. Thanks for the tip.

 

[ralph029]

Wish I could help. Maybe contact coil art.


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I'll send them an email over the weekend. In the mean time, I picked up a Moonshot to play around with.

 

[Heartsdelight]

Kind of new to the building thing. didn't know about the burping method. I'll give it a shot. I would imagine it can't hurt. I didn't see anything that would indicate a missing o-ring. Thanks for the tip.

Let us know if that works!

 

[Heartsdelight]

I'll send them an email over the weekend. In the mean time, I picked up a Moonshot to play around with.

I wouldn't bother emailing them, they won't help sadly.

 

[bmclaurin]

Is the cotton touching (even barely) the airflow ports/holes? Looks like you use quite a bit of cotton, so it's certainly possible that it could be touching, and that would definitely encourage a leak. Once you get the wicks juiced up, if necessary use a small probe, tweezers, etc. to ensure the cotton is completely free of those ports.

 

[bmclaurin]

Also, if you're using a thicker e-liquid, I've found that it's very helpful to ensure that you fray the wick ends quite a bit to facilitate the liquid actually getting absorbed into the cotton as opposed to skirting around them. Thinner juices tend to get absorbed more easily and therefore need less "fluffiness." But thicker juices can be a bit resistant to getting absorbed.

 

[ralph029]

Is the cotton touching (even barely) the airflow ports/holes? Looks like you use quite a bit of cotton, so it's certainly possible that it could be touching, and that would definitely encourage a leak. Once you get the wicks juiced up, if necessary use a small probe, tweezers, etc. to ensure the cotton is completely free of those ports.

The cotton is definitely touching. In fact, from all i read about wicking it, I thought it was supposed to. I'll add this to the burping and see what happens. Thanks for the insight.

 

[budd77]

The cotton is definitely touching. In fact, from all i read about wicking it, I thought it was supposed to. I'll add this to the burping and see what happens. Thanks for the insight.

It definitely needs to be touching. The wicking keeps the juice from pouring straight out. It seems it doesn't matter what you do the juice runs out. You must be missing an o ring on the chamber(the piece that threads over the coils and wicks).

 

[bmclaurin]

It definitely needs to be touching. The wicking keeps the juice from pouring straight out. It seems it doesn't matter what you do the juice runs out. You must be missing an o ring on the chamber(the piece that threads over the coils and wicks).

Respectfully, I think you're misunderstanding. I'm talking about the *airflow* ports, not the juice ports. Your wick should *not* be in contact with the airflow ports unless you happen to like gurgling and leaking.

But I certainly agree it could be an o-ring issue, but the OP said he already checked that. I was trying to think of other potential causes.

 

[ralph029]

Respectfully, I think you're misunderstanding. I'm talking about the *airflow* ports, not the juice ports. Your wick should *not* be in contact with the airflow ports unless you happen to like gurgling and leaking.

But I certainly agree it could be an o-ring issue, but the OP said he already checked that. I was trying to think of other potential causes.

I absolutely misunderstood. The wicking is not touching the airflow ports. BUT I did reduce the cotton CONSIDERABLY and pushed them in to give is "room" and that reduced the leak to a minimal trickle. I'm thinking about switching to a coil with 2 less wraps to give it more room inside the chamber to see if that helps more. The o-rings are sound. I've been over them several times just in case I missed something.

 

[ralph029]

It definitely needs to be touching. The wicking keeps the juice from pouring straight out. It seems it doesn't matter what you do the juice runs out. You must be missing an o ring on the chamber(the piece that threads over the coils and wicks).

I replaced that o-ring when I rebuilt it.

 

[Heartsdelight]

I absolutely misunderstood. The wicking is not touching the airflow ports. BUT I did reduce the cotton CONSIDERABLY and pushed them in to give is "room" and that reduced the leak to a minimal trickle. I'm thinking about switching to a coil with 2 less wraps to give it more room inside the chamber to see if that helps more. The o-rings are sound. I've been over them several times just in case I missed something.

Minimal trickle is good! Better than pouring out

 

[budd77]

Hopefully you get it figured out. The Mage when wicked properly doesn't leak and I can chain vape mine at over a 100 watts without dry hits. Awesomely warm, thick, tasty vapor!

 

[ralph029]

Hopefully you get it figured out. The Mage when wicked properly doesn't leak and I can chain vape mine at over a 100 watts without dry hits. Awesomely warm, thick, tasty vapor!

I hope so too. I really like this addy. It has great flavor! Over 100 watts? If I bring mine above 40 the leaking gets worse. As I keep playing around with it, the flow of the leaking changes with the different wicking so I'm pretty convinced that it is a wicking issue.

 

[ralph029]

Again, I want to thank everyone for their help on this. I am happy to say that after about a dozen+ rewicking and about 6+ coil rebuilds I have been successful at vaping a full tank without a leak. I fianlly just settled on a 9 wrap 2.5 clapton coil. It's hard to say but I think I used about the same amount of cotton as with the 3.0's. I did stuff it down and then pull it back up about half way and stuff it back down again. I think it was looser just by that action allowing it wick better. I'm still stuck on about 40 watts, but that's fine. Thanks again everyone.

 

[Heartsdelight]

Again, I want to thank everyone for their help on this. I am happy to say that after about a dozen+ rewicking and about 6+ coil rebuilds I have been successful at vaping a full tank without a leak. I fianlly just settled on a 9 wrap 2.5 clapton coil. It's hard to say but I think I used about the same amount of cotton as with the 3.0's. I did stuff it down and then pull it back up about half way and stuff it back down again. I think it was looser just by that action allowing it wick better. I'm still stuck on about 40 watts, but that's fine. Thanks again everyone.

That's great! Another little tip, once wicked take something pointy & poke the wick from the outside, kinda wiggle it that will ensure the wick isn't so tight it won't wick well.

 

[ralph029]

See boys and girls, I'm school-able.