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I was assuming 3 LG HB4s in Smok's newest currently available mod would surely handle the any wattage I prefer for the new TFV12. Other cloud chaser subohm tanks recently released and seems to,be the way tanks are made now. I'm likely ordering the 50 dollar silver/leather Wismec Reuleaux RX300 quad 18650 box mod. I don't like the GX350, and it's not available anyway so I'll get the rx300 while it's on sale. I've gathered that the only way to enjoy 210W puffs on a V12-T12 coil with the power of the long lasting Sony VTC5A set of 4. Is my Marshal G320 triple 18650 mod ok to V12 vape with LG HB4s at least? Or is the RX300 a much better mod for somebody vaping the latest and greatest tanks? Thanks
 

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Not necessarily....some people may actually choose to run their attys (atties?) at 300+ watts.
 

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I was assuming 3 LG HB4s in Smok's newest currently available mod would surely handle the any wattage I prefer for the new TFV12. Other cloud chaser subohm tanks recently released and seems to,be the way tanks are made now. I'm likely ordering the 50 dollar silver/leather Wismec Reuleaux RX300 quad 18650 box mod. I don't like the GX350, and it's not available anyway so I'll get the rx300 while it's on sale. I've gathered that the only way to enjoy 210W puffs on a V12-T12 coil with the power of the long lasting Sony VTC5A set of 4. Is my Marshal G320 triple 18650 mod ok to V12 vape with LG HB4s at least? Or is the RX300 a much better mod for somebody vaping the latest and greatest tanks? Thanks
3 battery mods will be fine for it. It's the dual mods that can't handle it. but realistically speaking i doubt any mod out there will actually output the 300 watts with the T12 coil. they are .12 ohms so most hit their amp limits before hitting the watt limits. not too mention other factors that will limit the output. even with the HB4 due to the low capacity you won't get peak performance very long. as it loses charge it won't be able to output those high wattages anyway for a long amount of time

Personally I'm using the TFV12 on a G320 right now. i found the sweet spot of the T12 coil at around 130-160 but it handles 200 nicely too. more then that isn't that good of a vape anyway. I also used it on the maxo
 

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Ok so for like 210W with the tfv12 ill be fine with my marshall than. Cool thanks
 

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I also swap batteries at 50% or so i dont know if that's gonna impact the longevity or even care bec aise theyre 5 bucks each.
 

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How long does these new super coils last when being vaped at 200+ watts ?
 

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How long does these new super coils last when being vaped at 200+ watts ?
probably not long LMAO. i found the sweet spot of the T12 coil at around 130-150 with a hard preheat
 

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Not long. The V8-T10 deca TFV8 coils I use on my marshall g320 are vaped at the soft or normal strength hit setting and 147W. As of right now, i bought this coil yesterday, took about 25 big puffs off it and I bet like my last coil, itll be shot by 60 total huge hits. Def use 80% Vg liquid. Less wouldnt perform well and 100% VG liquid will reduce the lifespan of the coil a lot more.
 

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Three Sony VTC5As dont have the approriate amperage for 175W pulls on a TFV8 V8-T10 Coil, so I'm wondering if a 4 battery Wismec RX300 would keep a TFV12 V12-T6 .15ohm coil running at 180W safely. Does anybody think the RX300 is a device I could run a TFV12 on with FOUR Sony VTC5A 25 amp 2,600mAH 18650s?
 

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Three Sony VTC5As dont have the approriate amperage for 175W pulls on a TFV8 V8-T10 Coil, so I'm wondering if a 4 battery Wismec RX300 would keep a TFV12 V12-T6 .15ohm coil running at 180W safely. Does anybody think the RX300 is a device I could run a TFV12 on with FOUR Sony VTC5A 25 amp 2,600mAH 18650s?
even with nearly no charge (3 volts) the VTC5a would easily handle the amp load of 175 watts in a triple battery mod. Why would you think otherwise?

and yes the RX300 would handle it in theory but if they went with a crappy 510 and crappy wiring like the rx2/3 it wouldn't push it. Plus I'm not sure if it'll hit that hard with a .12 ohm coil.
 

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Didnt think so. I know battery life increases a tiny bit with the RX300 so I could alternate sets of HB6s and HB4s on it. That's the most powerful setup in a reg mod on the market now
 

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So the voltage output increase that occurs is enough? Dual bbattery mods cant handle much anymore with tanks like these
 

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It hits hard ive been assured by a friend. Only a slight bit wider than the g320 is as well so The size is not an issue. It has a better regular 510 this time btw
 

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Didnt think so. I know battery life increases a tiny bit with the RX300 so I could alternate sets of HB6s and HB4s on it. That's the most powerful setup in a reg mod on the market now
technically it would be the smok GX350 at 350 watts. but ijoy has the EXO360 at 360 watts coming soon too
So the voltage output increase that occurs is enough? Dual bbattery mods cant handle much anymore with tanks like these
for dual battery mods dead VTC5a would technically not cover the amp load at 175 watts but that assumes the mod will even output that much. they would be fine at nominal voltage. realistically dual battery mods should really be kept at 150 or less. but with triple battery mods you get more headroom cause the extra battery. at 175 watts even with dead batteries (3 volts each) you'd only be pulling about 19.5 amps on a 25 amp battery
 

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It hits hard ive been assured by a friend. Only a slight bit wider than the g320 is as well so The size is not an issue. It has a better regular 510 this time btw
better? possibly. different? yes.
also I'm not sure what your friend knows to make that assessment. is it the same guy who said the sig 213 plus hits hard? LOL
lots of people just talk out of orifices that aren't their mouth. that's how people get hurt
 

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How do you know the Rx300 isnt better performing? Now my friendly thread is turned into "ome-upping" who is the most correct out of a few statememt makers about something that is an opinion. I think with its puff strength option its better and is featured with a new chip specifically for hard hitting performance. Jope so. My RX200S was for the time it was newer to the market, for sure. I'll enjoy my RX300 and be happy knowing it's safe and hard hitting. Peace out and thanks for the info. Internet is buzzing with people's satisfsction with the mods power.
 

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better? possibly. different? yes.
also I'm not sure what your friend knows to make that assessment. is it the same guy who said the sig 213 plus hits hard? LOL
lots of people just talk out of orifices that aren't their mouth. that's how people get hurt
The Sigelei Plys did hit hard. I vaped at 130W on the regular though so i never said it was safe. The button was pressed at high numbers and made a puff so thats all i know. Get more mods and try them if you can afford it. I get it now. Ok but dont lol me please. Why is that post so defining of me on a message board. You cant let that sigelei convo go lol whatever
 

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My shit is just the best I guess. Sorry. Supernatural pimp style. Mod madness. I hope you're not stuck with only a Sig Plus.
 

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The Sigelei Plys did hit hard. I vaped at 130W on the regular though so i never said it was safe. The button was pressed at high numbers and made a puff so thats all i know. Get more mods and try them if you can afford it. I get it now. Ok but dont lol me please. Why is that post so defining of me on a message board. You cant let that sigelei convo go lol whatever
I don't know how many more mods I need? I have quite a few man. I just don't get the need to post bad info and not listen if people try and give u the right info. What is your idea of me needing "more mods"

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Im glad you cleared up the fact the sig plus isnt for 200W style vaping but the 200W showed on the screen and it made a puff accidentally. Thats what i said so maybe it was able to bang like a Gprive at 175W as well. You tested that wasnt the case while I began ny switch to a Gpriv for 140W-175W TFV8 vaping with a lot if HB4 swapping. Its all good man.
 

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More mods i just meant you talk about the sig plus a lot so maybe you were jonesin for something better but had to deal with that
 

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More mods i just meant you talk about the sig plus a lot so maybe you were jonesin for something better but had to deal with that
Not that it should matter cause results are results but I have over 40 mods. I'd say that's enough to form a decent opinion personally.

My point was your statement about the vtc5a not being able to do 175 watts in a 3 battery mod was incorrect. I don't want someone reading the forum and getting the wrong info.

And my 2nd point was to not belive everything your buddy says or your vape shop guy says as wrong info is everywhere. That's why we see people go boom and then vaping looks bad and it's bad for everyone

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Okay so if ohms law says i need 40W or more I should go with the RX300, right, or any 4 battery we've mentioned?
 

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Okay so if ohms law says i need 40W or more I should go with the RX300, right, or any 4 battery we've mentioned?
You are going for a regulated mod, so if you mean in terms of battery safety, even a single 18650 mod would be fine for 40W, as you don't calculate using Ohms law for amp load.

If you mean something else though, we can help out with advice? I am unsure though, remember for a regulated mod it is simple watts used/input voltage/efficiency=Amps.
 
I am really glad that I've found here some similar thinkers. I've had hot discussions at my local comunity bcs people are so commited to 2x18650 mods, so they consider 3x16850 uncomfortable and when you start a discussion about RX300+ new atoms they just laugh at you((
IMHO after surfing the web: SMOKs are great but that overburned factory faults count is just over 9000. Maybe RX350 will be better, but with all the bauty of golden Marshall- it's reliability is just.....
Btw TFV12-T12 and T6 coils are availible for 10$ per 3psc at china shops.
 

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I am really glad that I've found here some similar thinkers. I've had hot discussions at my local comunity bcs people are so commited to 2x18650 mods, so they consider 3x16850 uncomfortable and when you start a discussion about RX300+ new atoms they just laugh at you((
IMHO after surfing the web: SMOKs are great but that overburned factory faults count is just over 9000. Maybe RX350 will be better, but with all the bauty of golden Marshall- it's reliability is just.....
Btw TFV12-T12 and T6 coils are availible for 10$ per 3psc at china shops.
vaping is great because something for everyone. pick what you ant and don't worry about others.
Personally I think smok mods are awesome. the G320 is legit for sure. the alien was awesome too and the G-priv, and xcube ultra hell they ahven't made a bad mod since 2015 LMAO. also the G320 is really small for a triple battery mod
 

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vaping is great because something for everyone. pick what you ant and don't worry about others.
Personally I think smok mods are awesome. the G320 is legit for sure. the alien was awesome too and the G-priv, and xcube ultra hell they ahven't made a bad mod since 2015 LMAO. also the G320 is really small for a triple battery mod
I like SMOK, even my Xcube 2 I really like, although the TC isn't great it is a nice mod, and I like the Disco lights on it lol.

It does seem SMOK have improved their designs and also the performance of their mods, while other brands like Sigelei have unfortunately gone the opposite way.
 

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Yeah The Xcube Ultra was solidly constructed, although I only held it at my local store for a bit, but the GX350 is honestly not muuuuch of a small device compared to the Wismec RX300 quad battery super-mod. That's right, I've received my RX300, four new Sony VTC5A 18650s from Liionwholesale.com (they test each battery), and the official authentic Smok TFV12 Cloud Beast King subohm tank. It CANNOT be used with 12-coil "Duadary" sp? on dual battery mods. I place my equally beastly king's goblet RX300 mod on my table, Vape at 184W (odd number but I locked it at that wattage as it's perfect. The mod speaks for itself, the fire button is nice, the menu is the most basic yet, and VW mode hits are all at a standardized puff strength that makes clouds and doesn't seem too harsh. The 12-coil on the TFV4 has good flavor, no spit-back, much improved design over the TFV8 in terms of leaking, and setting off my smoke alarm. The vapor is a little warm but lower the wattage a bit and you can vape every minute consecutively without any overheating glass. The mouthpiece is a big bore long attachment, and the tip fill swings open similar to both the TFV8 and the Sense Blazer 200 tanks function. I've had some leaking do to overfilling. I never fill past that connecter from that that bottle neck top of the tank that screws into the coil and never fill without closing off the air hole. Keep upright and let sit until bubbles appear and have dissipated. I'd day 35-40 mins before you beging vaping slowly from lower wattages up to your sweet spot or else you run the chance of burning out the coil within the day. Don't forget to lock your resistance. I don't care if it's rated to do 350 maximum watts because that seems like it would fry the cotton. I use 80% VG 3mg nicotine vanilla cupcake eliquid. I've yet to reach 50% battery life and each of the cells are evenly distributing the load. I use a new model LUC V4 4-bay charger with 1.0A charging of 4 batteries, I believe, which I only tried when I first recieved that batteries at about 60% charge from the factory each, give or take. They're boxed, official, and the VPC code app will let you snap a pic of the battery code and sent you to the Sony Chem website. 25+ amps/ 2,500mAH x 4 cells in that AMAZING powerful Wismec RX300 computer chip. It makes all my tanks produce more vapor, I guess it's the automatic puff strength setting. The tank doesn't leak unless you don't inhale the without firing to clear the holes after filling and lower the fill capacity a notch before closing the airholes and putting it away. I am surprised how well I can managed the tank's eliquid and "leak-proof" design isn't the best I've used but it's not anyway as problematic as the TFV8. I bought my RX300 in Silver/Leather ($50.99) along with the tank ($44.99 [it's sold out everywhere else I trust to purchase from. Make sure you buy the tank from a good site. The price was worth the quality guarantee]) $96 plus $26 for a set of four new Sony VTC5A (they may be just under 2,600mAH but they're much more powerful with a Mooch tested SOLID 25 conintious amperage output minimum) so don't go for the 3,000mAH VTC6s because they're barely any longer lasting and a pathetic 20 amps. I know in a quad 18650 mod such as the RX300, you can have plenty of power, but don't use HG2s, if you insist on 3,000mAH get the VTC6s from Liionwholesale.com and it's tested and definitely an authentic battery you'll reveice. So about 133 bucks after shipping from Vaperoyalty.com and the Liionwholesale.com fast shipping price. Liionwholesale's regular shipping method takes forever because I'm located in LI, NY near in the middle of the island. I believe many sites are from across the country. Anyway I couldn't be happier and the GX350 my friend has is as heavy although it's slightly more compact size is coming at the expense of a higher price than the RX300 and plasticky/cheap and/or thin pieces of metal with rattling insides. Not worth it. ANY mod with more than 2 batteries is going to be a big boy. The leather vs the carbon fiber my friend has is great to grib the mod. It's a box but I compared it to the RX200S and it's a square version with one battery added to the overall size. Great battery hatch, no rattle, and a possible 350W firmware update like the RX200 updated to 250W. It's not been mentioned by Wismec by they hinted at it with the updating feature and the wording used on the official side showcasing the mod at Wismec.com. I think the internal charging at 1.5A requires a $7.99 1.5A special adapter sold separately so I charge a little more slowly and safely on my LUC V4. It's rare to get a 1A 4-battery charge from anything so I'm happy. Definitely consider the RX300 OR if you prefer the Smok GX350, I suggest 4 battery mods over the Marshall G320. Voltage and amperage pull is no problem and I can finally but my 30-32 amp LG HB6s away. TFV12, is it's authentic, is the king regardless of recent competitors. The REUX tank I have with the more vapor producing Dual coil is high watt vs. the Ceramic or triple coil. I enjoy that as well and can be less carefull filling, and tilting that tank. But the 12-coil pre-installed in the TFV12 Cloud Beast King is great, but I want to get the V12-T6 sextuple coil for the new tank and save liquid as well as enjoy cooler vaping, hopefully less waiting between hits. Get either the GX350 mod alone (black/red) available without the tank kit for $55.99 at Vaperoyalty.com or the Wismec Reuleaux RX300 available everywhere. Enjoy.
 

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I like SMOK, even my Xcube 2 I really like, although the TC isn't great it is a nice mod, and I like the Disco lights on it lol.

It does seem SMOK have improved their designs and also the performance of their mods, while other brands like Sigelei have unfortunately gone the opposite way.
Yup xcube 2 was nice. I have one as well. That was about the time they started turning things around. Sig just fell off the map. They were making great mods for a while then IDK what happened

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