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gabrielpanoussi

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I have been very happy with my PICO since I purchased it. So much so that I plan on buying a PICO Dual at some point for the two battery advantage I would of already expect that I can't really justify the expense. Dual battery is the only real plus for me because I do vape at low wattage so I can't see my self going anywhere near 60 based on the coils and builds I currently use.

Anyway, I will get to the point. My real Issue is that I work outdoors in the north so it can get fairly cold lets say the low teens. I have noticed on rare occasion (it has happened about 3 times) in the four months I have owned my device that when I take a vape and release the fire button the PICO does not stop supplying voltage to the atty. I never let it go long enough to see if the 10s fail safe still functions in these situations. I usually panic and frantically unscrew the battery cap enough to cut contact and then screw it back in.
Has anyone else had this issue? This has only happened when I have been out in the cold. Now I know that electronics have operating temp specs for the external temps. I am sure this does too but... My cell phone still work when it is 15 degrees and for the most part so does the PICO except once in a while when it scares me like this.

I am going to try to stick to 30a batteries. I have one at 30a and one that is at 20a. most of my coils never go below .3 in VC and .15 in TC. I use the thirty amp as an additional safe guard. If when my PICO is malfunctioning like this I want the battery to be able to handle a unregulated extended pull on a .3 coil with a low battery. I don't mind the reduced battery life and if I upgrade to a dual that 1500mah limit on 30a batteries will be a mute point. as obviously the two batteries share the load and battery life is effectively 3000 mah (kind of but not really lol).

Again I am getting side tracked. My main concern is not battery venting but more that the atty will burn long enough to dry the juice in the wick to the point it ignites. When it wigs out like this I have no idea what wattage is being applied to the coil. Could be what I set it at or it could be full blast 75W or it could be unregulated. Anyone have this issue with the PICO? Any mod? In the cold?
Thanks in advance and I apologize for the long wordy post.
 

gabrielpanoussi

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Guess I AM the only one. I will try to reload the firmware. Hopefully it is not a mechanical problem with the button it self.
 

Angrygod50

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I use mine outside a lot in cold temps, not all day but it's always worked correctly. Colder than the teens for sure as the teens are not that cold in my book. I keep it in my pocket though so that may help.
 

Markw4mms

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I can only assume you've checked to make sure no juice has leaked onto the fire button, or maybe you had some juice on your finger and got it onto the button? I had that problem with a mod I had and I cleaned it out with contact cleaner, problem solved.
Sorry I can't make more suggestions, but I don't own a Pico.
 

gabrielpanoussi

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I can only assume you've checked to make sure no juice has leaked onto the fire button, or maybe you had some juice on your finger and got it onto the button? I had that problem with a mod I had and I cleaned it out with contact cleaner, problem solved.
Sorry I can't make more suggestions, but I don't own a Pico.
Nope no juice leaking at all actually I am quite proud of that... I finally got the MELO ECR rebuild head not to leak one drop.
I don't think it is a mechanical issue as the button does make and release contact fine for the most part, and it is a multi function button but the actual button only connects a circuit with on off pulses. I am leaning towards software glitch or I am exceeding cold tolerance for a chip in the device or its just plain defective from the start. Anyway thanks for the replies. For now I will stick with 30a batteries in all devices as a precaution.
 

gabrielpanoussi

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I use mine outside a lot in cold temps, not all day but it's always worked correctly. Colder than the teens for sure as the teens are not that cold in my book. I keep it in my pocket though so that may help.
Same here it is in my jacket inner pocket which is close to my core so I woul imagine that it is fairly warm. SMH I just dont know.
 

Just Frank

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No problems when Im outside. Ive used mine in the teens without a problem. I notice my liquid gets thicker but thats it. Sorry I cant help. Just posting to share my experience with pico in cold temps. I have 2, both no problems.
 

gabrielpanoussi

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No problems when Im outside. Ive used mine in the teens without a problem. I notice my liquid gets thicker but thats it. Sorry I cant help. Just posting to share my experience with pico in cold temps. I have 2, both no problems.
Thanks I appreciate it. I guess it is just my device. Plus side is it pushes me closer to a buying a new mod.
 

Just Frank

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Thanks I appreciate it. I guess it is just my device. Plus side is it pushes me closer to a buying a new mod.
I want to try a new mod with a little more power. You mentioned the Pico dual. I wanted to know if a Griffin 25 would fit on one. Bigger tanks on the Pico dont work because the battery cap. I wonder if the Pico dual supports them..
 

conanthewarrior

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I have never had any problems like this myself, but I will advise you not to go for the 1500MAH, 30A cells if you only intend on vaping at 60W maximum in a dual 18650 device.

That would only be 10.75A at a maximum, this is assuming a cut off of 6.2V and 90% efficiency. It will nearly always be less than this as this is as the batteries are nearly empty, and as you use TC even less when power is reduced to the coil. Remember the resistance has no effect on the amp load of your batteries in a regulated mod, only wattage and input voltage does.


I would also probably remove the battery myself in a situation like this instead of waiting for the 10S protection to kick in, especially if you are not sure if it is supplying the wattage you asked for, or more.
I can only suggest cleaning the button, but it seems this is not the issue here, but you will not need 30A batteries for the Pico dual at your power usage, and more than likely not for the regular pico unless you are vaping over 55 or so watts.
 

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