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i started vaping a year ago and before that i was a smoker i smoked like 3 years or smth
4 weeks ago while i had my morning coffee i was vaping
suddenly it hit me hard in the throat and i started coughing then my chest felt tight i had SOB, dizzines nausea and my hands started to numb i had a panic i wast able to breath normally for a week or smth and i had a couple of asthma like atacks i went to the doctor had an x-ray done checked my heart and blood condition it was perfectly fine
i was vaping a 70/30 eliquid 1.5mg
tesla cigs box mod and sapor v2 rda
and
50/50 e liquid 3mg
evic vtc mini with pico rta
did someone had this kind of thing or at least does someone knows what was that?
 

ej1024

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Yup, ur not the only one, been reading a lot about this lately...
how high do you vape? WATTAGE?


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eSMOKA

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Whether they were related to vaping or not, those are very serious symptoms.

I would get a second opinion if I were you. If you went to a regular family doc, call them and tell them you would like a referral to a cardiologist.

I would also stop vaping for the time being.
 
Yup, ur not the only one, been reading a lot about this lately...
how high do you vape? WATTAGE?


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it something like the ijust..its reading the coil resistance and it gives u the wattage automatically.. i had a 0.2 build in there so i guess it could give me up to 100
 
Whether they were related to vaping or not, those are very serious symptoms.

I would get a second opinion if I were you. If you went to a regular family doc, call them and tell them you would like a referral to a cardiologist.

I would also stop vaping for the time being.
i also went to a neurolog and ahad some checkups and the doctor said that these symptoms may be related to stress but i'm not sure..
annnnd i'm not vaping for like 4 weeks after i had this attacks.. i'm feeling better now but i really need my nicotine
 

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it something like the ijust..its reading the coil resistance and it gives u the wattage automatically.. i had a 0.2 build in there so i guess it could give me up to 100

You vape 100 watts constantly?


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Sounds like an anxiety attack to me.... as i have gotten older they have reared their ugly head... talk about annoying mentally knowing what you need to do. They can severely stress your body too leaving after affects/symptoms
 
Sounds like an anxiety attack to me.... as i have gotten older they have reared their ugly head... talk about annoying mentally knowing what you need to do. They can severely stress your body too leaving after affects/symptoms
didnt quite catch this part here ''as i have gotten older they have reared their ugly head... talk about annoying mentally knowing what you need to do''
but yead i actually had a lot of stress a couple of days before this happened
 

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naah i was chain vaping 100w for 20 sec maximum
and then i was switching to my tight rta that gave me 15w max

Gawd dang 20 seconds of chain vaping @100 watts will make you feel that way, like I said on other threads, NICOTINE is a VASOCONSTRICTOR, it will constrict ur blood vessels, meaning less blood flow to ur body.... I know vaping is a better alternative than smoking cigarettes, but the nicotine consumption is more in VAPING...
Start low wattage in the morning, Give it a break, let ur lung and heart recover, meaning let ur blood vessels dilate again, make sure you are hydrated all the time...

Caffeine is a CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM STUMULANT, it gives us that WAKE THE FUCK UP FEELING.. so imagine if you are vaping constantly with nicotine (constricting blood flow) at the same time ur consuming caffeine? Ur body is CONFUSED! ur body doesn't know how to react?
It's like SHOULD I WAKE UP OR SHOULD I TAKE A NAP?!
Here's what you should do to avoid that happening again....
First thing you should do is
DRINK ATLEAST 8oz of water before anything else, drink decaf coffee
Start low in wattage
If you Chain vape?! STOP THAT SHIT!
give it a break!


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didnt quite catch this part here ''as i have gotten older they have reared their ugly head... talk about annoying mentally knowing what you need to do''
but yead i actually had a lot of stress a couple of days before this happened
For me it is knowing that i am just having an anxiety attack and controlling my breathing, sometimes laying on the floor in a dark cool room really helps. I dont get them often but the first time ever was wicked scary.. I was prolly 25 ish maybe a lil order when i first had one and it scared the crap out of me. And just because you mentally realize what is happening doesnt make it less annoying/scary but does offer some calm when going to deal with it... my brother had one so bad he literally felt like he was having a heart attack... he had to recover for a week or two from the stress his mind put on his body because his mind made it real ish
 

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Ditto to the anxiety attack and stress. Stress can do crazy things.

You don't really "need" nicotine. You just think you do. It's called "addiction".

Stick with it, after 30 days you should be able to see that you are no longer wanting nicotine that much. With symptoms as serious as that, and given that you are obviously worried about them, you'd be a fool to not try to just quit, IMHO.
 
Gawd dang 20 seconds of chain vaping @100 watts will make you feel that way, like I said on other threads, NICOTINE is a VASOCONSTRICTOR, it will constrict ur blood vessels, meaning less blood flow to ur body.... I know vaping is a better alternative than smoking cigarettes, but the nicotine consumption is more in VAPING...
Start low wattage in the morning, Give it a break, let ur lung and heart recover, meaning let ur blood vessels dilate again, make sure you are hydrated all the time...

Caffeine is a CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM STUMULANT, it gives us that WAKE THE FUCK UP FEELING.. so imagine if you are vaping constantly with nicotine (constricting blood flow) at the same time ur consuming caffeine? Ur body is CONFUSED! ur body doesn't know how to react?
It's like SHOULD I WAKE UP OR SHOULD I TAKE A NAP?!
Here's what you should do to avoid that happening again....
First thing you should do is
DRINK ATLEAST 8oz of water before anything else, drink decaf coffee
Start low in wattage
If you Chain vape?! STOP THAT SHIT!
give it a break!


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i touhgt about this
but i excluded it cuz i was doing this the whole time from when i started vaping till now...
 

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i touhgt about this
but i excluded it cuz i was doing this the whole time from when i started vaping till now...

Our body is amazing bro, it will adjust as much as it could, but in time it will let you know... and what you experience was a wake up call...


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Ditto to the anxiety attack and stress. Stress can do crazy things.

You don't really "need" nicotine. You just think you do. It's called "addiction".

Stick with it, after 30 days you should be able to see that you are no longer wanting nicotine that much. With symptoms as serious as that, and given that you are obviously worried about them, you'd be a fool to not try to just quit, IMHO.

Ummm... when you are ADDICTED to something.... YOU DO NEED IT!!! Telling yourself you don't need it, it's just addiction, does NOT make the addiction go away! Even something as relatively non-addictive as nicotine, if you THINK you are addicted to it, then you are, because a lot of addiction is mental.

When I smoked, I needed cigarettes, just to survive. That was addiction. Fortunately vaping came along and allowed me to end that addiction, but if the vaping disappeared... that need for cigarettes would return.

I agree that the OP's problem sounds more like an anxiety attack than anything else, but yes, probably complicated by caffeine and nicotine. I personally think caffeine is worse for you than nicotine, especially at the 1.5mg and 3mg dosages. But chain vaping at 100w would overstress anybody.

You may need the nicotine... but you don't need 100w, that's for damn sure. And you may need caffeine, at least in the morning... but it would be a good idea to reduce that, if it's going to cause you major problems like this.

Moderation. That's what it seems you need above all else. You don't need to get all your caffeine and nicotine in one massive blast.

Andria
 

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Ummm... when you are ADDICTED to something.... YOU DO NEED IT!!!

Nope. That's silly reasoning. No offense.

If the OP (or anyone) were to stop using nicotine, he would not die. Therefore, it is not a true need. If an addiction was really a need, people addicted to life-threatening substances would never have any freedom from said substance and would be addicted for life. But we know that's not the case.

Just because nicotine (or even, let's say, excessive sugar intake) may be a hard addiction to quash, it does not mean they are truly needed. They are only needed insofar as your addiction dictates it either mentally, physically or both.

Food and water are true needs. You will eventually die without them if you were to stop using either. Nicotine and excessive sugar intake? Not so much.

Addictions to substances that are not needed to survive are not true needs. Addiction only makes it seem that way (again, either mentally, physically or both).

But I forgot, I'm on a vaping forum LOL.
 

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Nope. That's silly reasoning. No offense.

If the OP (or anyone) were to stop using nicotine, he would not die. Therefore, it is not a true need. If an addiction was really a need, people addicted to life-threatening substances would never have any freedom from said substance and would be addicted for life. But we know that's not the case.

Just because nicotine (or even, let's say, excessive sugar intake) may be a hard addiction to quash, it does not mean they are truly needed. They are only needed insofar as your addiction dictates it either mentally, physically or both.

Food and water are true needs. You will eventually die without them if you were to stop using either. Nicotine and excessive sugar intake? Not so much.

Addictions to substances that are not needed to survive are not true needs. Addiction only makes it seem that way (again, either mentally, physically or both).

But I forgot, I'm on a vaping forum LOL.

Your reasoning is every bit as heartless, unempathetic, and lacking understanding as the doctor who tells a patient: "Just quit. You don't need to smoke." And I will tell you the same thing I would tell that doctor: fuck you, you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about. When someone FEELS that they NEED something in order to be comfortable, THEN THEY NEED IT, period. Whether or not they would actually die without it is utterly irrelevant. By your reasoning, there simply isn't any such thing as addiction; all smokers and drunks and narcotics abusers could simply lay down their cigarettes or drinks or pills or syringes, because hey, they don't need it, they won't die without it. And there would be no need whatsofuckingever for vaping, because all smokers could simply lay those coffin nails down and walk away without a backward glance.

BULLSHIT.

PERCEIVING a need for something, may not be EXACTLY the same as needing it or one will DIE... but it FEELS that way, and that's really all that matters to the person who perceives that need. Telling them they don't need it, when they very clearly do feel a need for it, is just plain cruel and inhumane, and has no place... ON A VAPERS' FORUM.

Andria
 

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Nope. That's silly reasoning. No offense.

If the OP (or anyone) were to stop using nicotine, he would not die. Therefore, it is not a true need. If an addiction was really a need, people addicted to life-threatening substances would never have any freedom from said substance and would be addicted for life. But we know that's not the case.

Just because nicotine (or even, let's say, excessive sugar intake) may be a hard addiction to quash, it does not mean they are truly needed. They are only needed insofar as your addiction dictates it either mentally, physically or both.

Food and water are true needs. You will eventually die without them if you were to stop using either. Nicotine and excessive sugar intake? Not so much.

Addictions to substances that are not needed to survive are not true needs. Addiction only makes it seem that way (again, either mentally, physically or both).

But I forgot, I'm on a vaping forum LOL.

You obviously don't know much about addiction.
While a large part of any addiction is psychological and ceremonial habit
physical addiction is a very real need that a body develops to some substances.

Read: http://alcoholrehab.com/addiction-articles/physical-and-psychological-addiction/
Physical Addiction Defined
To say that an individual is physically addicted on a substance means that they have an increased tolerance for it, and they will experience physical symptoms should they try to stop or reduce their intake substantially. These physical symptoms are more commonly referred to as withdrawals and they can include:

* Nausea and vomiting
* Body aches
* Seizures
* Changes to pulse rate
* Changes to blood pressure
* Noticeable shaking or body tremors
* Headaches
* Sweating
* High temperatures
* Changes to respiratory rate
* Diarrhea
* Restless leg syndrome

Physical or Psychological Addiction
It would be misleading to say that physical addiction and psychological addiction are completely separate. This is because the brain and the body are not different things – the brain is part of the body. It is possible for the person to have addiction symptoms that are predominately psychological in nature. A good example of this would be gambling or internet addiction. This means that they feel the need to engage in the behavior in order to cope or because they have a deep urge to do so. When it comes to alcohol and drugs the individual will usually develop both a physical and psychological addiction. The way this usually happens is that the person develops a psychological dependence first of all, and this drives them to keep using the drugs until they become physically addiction as well.
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Also see: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/drugs-brain
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2851054/
http://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/the_addicted_brain

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Some substances mimic and replace natural substances in the brain.
The human brain then develops a very real (as opposed to imaginary) DEPENDENCE
on said substance, in our case and in context to this discussion, said substance is nicotine.

What you say above casts addicts in a "poor people they're weak willed" light
which is not the case. To an addict his or her drug is as important to survive as food and water..
Perhaps you never read The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers' Fat Freddy say, " **** will get you through
times of no money better than money will get you through times of no ****", So true and that ****
is only a psychological addiction.

As a former anti-drug addiction counselor
I have known people who have stolen and even killed in order to get a fix.
 

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It could be an ingredient in the flavorings such as sucrolouse which some people are very allergic to or some other ingredient.....I had a sweet tooth for Naturally Extracted Tobacco e juices , and enjoyed vaping them all kinds of different tobaccos..one day I got some new juice from Oriental tobaccos..it hit me like a brick my sinuses shut down my eyes started burning and I got a splitting headache.....I just dumped the juice down the drain...about a year later I bought some other "oriental tobacco juice" from a differnt company....and he exact same thing happened to me....I assume there is some element of that tobacco that I'm allergic to...
 
i started vaping a year ago and before that i was a smoker i smoked like 3 years or smth
4 weeks ago while i had my morning coffee i was vaping
suddenly it hit me hard in the throat and i started coughing then my chest felt tight i had SOB, dizzines nausea and my hands started to numb i had a panic i wast able to breath normally for a week or smth and i had a couple of asthma like atacks i went to the doctor had an x-ray done checked my heart and blood condition it was perfectly fine
i was vaping a 70/30 eliquid 1.5mg
tesla cigs box mod and sapor v2 rda
and
50/50 e liquid 3mg
evic vtc mini with pico rta
did someone had this kind of thing or at least does someone knows what was that?

Sounds like an anxiety attack to me.
 
Its not an axiety attack. Its some type of reaction to something put in it. I can sense it even with secondhand. Might be flavors or something else. Its an awful symptoms, i also get extremely tired. I quit vapong sbout 6 months ago, ill never pick one up again. not sure what it is. obody seems to have diagnosed it or csme back with an answer. Certainly a doctor wont figure it out. Theyre way to Slow.
 

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Its not an axiety attack. Its some type of reaction to something put in it. I can sense it even with secondhand. Might be flavors or something else. Its an awful symptoms, i also get extremely tired. I quit vapong sbout 6 months ago, ill never pick one up again. not sure what it is. obody seems to have diagnosed it or csme back with an answer. Certainly a doctor wont figure it out. Theyre way to Slow.

Did you smoke cigarettes to begin with?
 

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I wonder if they ain't all just one person ... errrrr...... troll. What makes these ANTZ think we will tolerate them?
I thought the exact same thing. Seemed to all pop up in a very short time frame all reviving old threads. None seem to be interacting either. Just drop a comment and move on. Same MO! Asked them something a couple of times, zero response.
Me thinks your right. :yes:
 

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I thought the exact same thing. Seemed to all pop up in a very short time frame all reviving old threads. None seem to be interacting either. Just drop a comment and move on. Same MO! Asked them something a couple of times, zero response.
Me thinks your right. :yes:
Me thinks it is head in ass syndrome. There is a lot of it going around these days.
 

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I thought the exact same thing. Seemed to all pop up in a very short time frame all reviving old threads. None seem to be interacting either. Just drop a comment and move on. Same MO! Asked them something a couple of times, zero response.
Me thinks your right. :yes:
Well, take a look at "vapesucks" over there. That sorry loser came in here, bothered to create an account and everything just to make one solitary post, and never be seen again. Forget password? Come back as someone else?

The same asshat is probably trolling barbeque forums, complaining that meat is unhealthy. More than likely whining about carcinogens produced by burning wood in pits. All that delicious smokey flavor made them sick, when they never tried it.
 

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Well, take a look at "vapesucks" over there. That sorry loser came in here, bothered to create an account and everything just to make one solitary post, and never be seen again. Forget password? Come back as someone else?

The same asshat is probably trolling barbeque forums, complaining that meat is unhealthy. More than likely whining about carcinogens produced by burning wood in pits. All that delicious smokey flavor made them sick, when they never tried it.
I am tiring of this, we are willing to try to help others only to have our time wasted. Perhaps if only one answers, we can separate the trolls from those that are needing attention . This along with all the other shit we now have to deal with is ......well , is angering me and I am not a nice person when I am angry ...:gaah::gaah::devil:
 

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I wonder sometimes if these trolls are being paid to do what they do.
Absolutely... or they got caught vaping and this is their punishment...... I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, I shall not vape, :headbang: :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:
 

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Perhaps this is extra credit for their college courses. Only some college brat would stoop so low.
 

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i started vaping a year ago and before that i was a smoker i smoked like 3 years or smth
4 weeks ago while i had my morning coffee i was vaping
suddenly it hit me hard in the throat and i started coughing then my chest felt tight i had SOB, dizzines nausea and my hands started to numb i had a panic i wast able to breath normally for a week or smth and i had a couple of asthma like atacks i went to the doctor had an x-ray done checked my heart and blood condition it was perfectly fine
i was vaping a 70/30 eliquid 1.5mg
tesla cigs box mod and sapor v2 rda
and
50/50 e liquid 3mg
evic vtc mini with pico rta
did someone had this kind of thing or at least does someone knows what was that?

I haven't been around here for a while, but I do drop in every so often and see what's new. I still receive Vaping Underground emails and this subject caught my eye so I wanted to share my experience. I had quit smoking cigarettes 7 years ago when I started vaping and after a couple months I started feeling healthier without cigarettes, but something like what you describe started happening to me also after vaping for a while. I never vaped over 40 watts and usually in the 20's to 30's. Also, for the first month or so I used high nicotine juice, but after that I used very little nicotine. Less than 1%.

I vaped for 5 years before I quit almost 2 years ago. After I quit, it took a while before I started really feeling better and didn't have breathing issues and I had more energy. I'm not sure what it was since my nic content was so low... maybe it was the VG, PG or flavors that my body didn't like after a while, but I felt better after I quit vaping. I know vapers that vaped for longer than I did and still vape to this day that have no issues like I did so whatever it is, doesn't seem to effect everybody.
 

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I wonder sometimes if these trolls are being paid to do what they do.

If not given actual cash, then gifts, status, credit toward some object/ive. Actually starting to really dislike puritan/fundamentalist type of folks with a big hard on.

"Oh look someone is enjoying life. Quick quash them!"

To borrow from Marylin Manson "I ain't got enough middle fingers!"

*looks at vape cloud, sighs, looks at mod ... * "Time to battery."
 

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Actually starting to really dislike puritan/fundamentalist type of folks
Wish it was just puritanical type folks upset that people are replacing the pleasure of smoking with the pleasure of vaping. Easy enough to ignore them. Big Pharma & Big Tobacco paying (trolls, governments, etc.) to kill a whole industry so the competition to their own products is gone -- That can't be ignored.
 

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Wish it was just puritanical type folks upset that people are replacing the pleasure of smoking with the pleasure of vaping. Easy enough to ignore them. Big Pharma & Big Tobacco paying (trolls, governments, etc.) to kill a whole industry so the competition to their own products is gone -- That can't be ignored.

Agreed. But my point goes directly to the root though, greed. Most of the corporate types now are in the puritanical/fundie camp too. Why? Well that's they keep profits going.

That camp is full of fear and they weaponize that fear. It then gets pushed out into "the world" via all the lies, media bullshit, trolls, paid shills. So my point is remove their "base", they loose a toe/foothold.

It all comes back round, the chickens come to roost on two main underlying motivators. Those are fear and greed. They fear losing (perceived) power (in truth it is only access to control or control they desire, and frankly they got no power nor control and never will no one will) and greed keeps power fed & thriving.

Cut off profit of greed and well they start using their fear of loss as a weapon to bludgeon others. No, I've not been watching too many "capitalism is killing us" type of videos recently. :)

If people are interested in real power & control. Forget paying attention to those always "out there". Instead go find those not "found" nor out in the public eye. These are those who move mountains and don't even ask for a thank you, because they've moved on to move the next.

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