SirRichardRear
AKA Anthony Vapes on Youtube
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also forgot the supreme V2 lolThanks! I'll check out the RTAs you recommended.
also forgot the supreme V2 lolThanks! I'll check out the RTAs you recommended.
Thank you!also forgot the supreme V2 lol
yeah wasn't impressed with gnome coils. below average for sureThe flavor on my BBB (0.2 ohm coil head) far surpasses the Gnome. Too bad ... I had high hopes for the Gnome. At least my Gen 3 works fine!
Not to derail the thread but have you tried the serpent smm? I’m pretty interested in that or the ammit 25. Can’t decide2017 has had a ton of good RTAs. I'd probably look at that exo rta, captain rta, pharaoh rta, ammit 25 rta, reload rta, over the moonshot. i'm probably forgetting a few as well lol
I'm vaping it right now lol. had it about a week and working on a review. currently i prefer the ammit 25Not to derail the thread but have you tried the serpent smm? I’m pretty interested in that or the ammit 25. Can’t decide
So your a retailer and an engineer?
Customer satisfaction isn't my concern. I think we all konw based on questions we see, the average vaper isn't pretty ill informed compared to the hobbyists. My concern is taking a fair look at a product and providing information on it. A field in which i do with my money and my time for 0 financial gain as a service to the community. as far as the blazer goes i said my 1st one died in a matter of 2 weeks for no reason. and cited possible QC issues, not 510 related however just refused to turn on. used my replacement for 6 weeks no issues then did a review. it's not a great mod by any means, but it's one of the better triple mods and to be fair, triple mods outside the DNAs aren't that good at all. nobody is really nailed the "budget triple mod" Also I'd have to say the worst mod to date would be the exo skeleton since they literally exploded for no reason and wismec refused a recall, however all US sites refused to sell it and sent them back to wismec. You can still find them on china sites however. Maybe it's time for you to be more objective then think about what's hitting you in the wallet.
If you were around more, you'd see all the unhappy wismec/joyetech customers that frequent these forums. You literally haven't posted anything on this forum in 6 months but come back to defend wismec? sounds shady AF to me. Last time you posted was about issues with the CKS icon, which funny enough i spotted those issues as well and said them in my review. and even gave it pretty much a thumbs a down but please accuse me of hating CKS as well. might as well throw in dovpo i did rip the warlock z box and rogue but then i gave a good rec to the dovpo m VV. Or ijoy? I ripped the captain PD270 and the solo v 2 pro, but gave a great review to the maxo zenith. Soo the pattern? Yeah i don't favor any company it's just all about each device on an individual basis.
Yes, I retired from one career after 27 years. Working for Fairchild Semiconductor, National Semiconductor, Seattle Semiconductor and Intel Corporation until the miniaturization curve crossed my aging curve. When you spent your career operating micro-probe equipment on silicone wafers until your eye sight declines and arthritis makes that nearly impossible you too might look for something else to do. And then the whole part of being the oldest person on the project team was getting old. And that self imposed career change didn't negate my Diplomas. After not working for 17 months I got bored. Hence the new career.
There you go. That explains a lot. When Road & Track reviews an automobile is it not geared towards consumer satisfaction? Sure, all of the in depth testing is presented but the article is written so that any individual, commuter or hobbyist will find the information that matters to them. If it wasn't they would have gone under years ago as their reviews would be of no value to the average person.
You said in your review that you received the mod from element vape. That contradicts your claim above about "my money and my time for 0 financial gain". So who has the credibility issue? Or are you sending it back after your review is completed?
Your experience with the Blazer 200 was a 50% failure rate. The Exo Skeleton had a few catastrophic failures. Catastrophic failures represent a greater liability to retailers and distributors and that is why it is gone. Not the failure rate. If a 50% (your experience) or 70% (my experience) failure rate makes for "one of the better" triple battery mods your definition of better is far different than most peoples. The only Wismec triple battery mod that had a double digit failure rate in my stores was the RX 2/3. The Blazer 200 was 5 times worse.
You responded to every part of my post except the technical information. Why?
I spend a great deal of time working in my stores and don't have time to frequent the forum as much as I would like. Just so happens that August is one of the slower months of the year for us and I have some free time to participate. Was directed to the Icon thread by google when doing a search to see if anyone else was having problems not killing time on the forum.
What you are missing from the equation is that there are more Wismec/Joyetech customers so of course there will be more complaints. I am not as much defending Wismec as pointing out that your reasoning was in fact flawed for your PSA. And you seem to be more critical of Joyetech/Wismec devices than other brands. I do not have any brand loyalty and use what I like. It just so happens I haven't used a Wismec device on a daily basis since retiring my original RX200 that was still working.
Not trying to start a pissing match here. But if you are going to do an in depth explanation of a problem it should in fact, be a problem. And if the best you can do when presented with dissent to your biased opinion is attack, then maybe you should stick to your day job. You wasted your time doing this and many have wasted their time responding. Pretty sure this post was a waste based on your track record with previous responses.
the chip grounds itself by contacts at the bottom of the chip and uses the body of the mod as a ground wire. This is an extremely bad and inefficient design compared to running a simple ground wire.
It may be of interest to you, and others for that matter, that in critical transmission line applications, swaged connections are highly desirable in comparison to a soldered wire. Their implementation in the RX Gen3 may be horrific due to tolerances and the materials of the chassis but the theory behind the design is not to blame.
it's not a poor design in every application, it's a poor design in this application. TO any trained eye it's as obvious as saying don't stick a fork in an electrical outlet. To the untrained eye, it's been proven not by me, but by AF devs so if you wanna go tell them how much of an expert you are feel free and have at it. If it worked correctly, wismec wouldn't have programmed their firmware to lie about the resistance it actually readsAn attempt to get back on track...
You have yet to address my previous response to your statement. The design theory of the 510 connection shown in the images you posted is not a poor design. If implemented with appropriate tolerances and materials it would in fact be better than your recommended method. Thus making your entire post worthless.
Continue to insinuate whatever you wish about my education and experience. It really doesn't offend me. You posted that the design is the problem and it isn't. A swaged connection when executed with appropriate materials and within acceptable tolerances will have a lower impedance than a soldered connection. It is desirable not a problem. You can continue with the smoke and mirrors until the end of time. But the fact is, you lied in your original post. It could be due to ignorance from your obviously limited experience, but it is in fact a lie.
Bingo. Once the firmware isn't there to hide issues they become very apparent. Even if some alleged electrical engineer doesn't seem to think soJust updated to Arctic Fox. The real time resistance is all over the place from 0.14 to 0.18. No way for accurate TC. Waiting for 510 DIY fix.
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Read more thoroughly. Don't skim.Not really wanting to get into this shit slinging contest so I'll try to make my point and move on. First I haven't read this thread thoroughly and completely so maybe I've missed some of the testing, but some of what I have read are some pretty big assumptions.
1st assuming that a pressed fit connection is bad by default is an assumption as we don't know the process, tolerances, materials used if it was heat expanded / contracted or pressed into anodized hole or what. Depending on some of those unknowns the ground could actually be better as the larger the mass (body of the device) the less resistance compared to a small gauge wire. This should be something that could be proven relatively easily by simply soldering a ground wire to the negative of the 510 and the negative of the pcb. If the ground wire fixes it from popping out of TC then it's a shoddy negative connection. If it doesn't it's shoddy firmware and or electronics.
Another assumption is the company has added built in resistance to the firmware to fix poor connectivity. This could be the case, but the only ones that could answer that would be the engineers and the designers of the particular device that designed and wrote the firmware. It's entirely possible the firmware does have resistance added in the firmware as all mods have some internal resistance that needs to be compensated for while using TC. DNA devices for example since they are designed to be placed in a multitude of different enclosures provide the ability to test the mods internal resistance and update the software to accommodate that resistance tolerance of the different mods.
Another assumption is to use a hacked piece of firmware from someone else as a comparative to the original firmware and assume that the hacked firmware is better or more accurate or shows faults or defects in the original firmware or hardware when in reality its just hacked firmware and could be good or bad.
It's entirely possible the device is popping out of TC because the firmware or hardware is bugged and has nothing at all to do with the 510 connectivity method used. You can objectively prove that one way or the other by adding a ground wire. As a reviewer I would think that would be your goal, to objectively review and comment on those facts not assumptions.
Read more thoroughly. Don't skim.
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I see what you did there.Using the chassis as the ground circuit doesn't mean it's a good or bad circuit. Using a separate wire as the ground circuit doesn't mean it's a good or bad circuit. Either method can provide proper or improper electrical conductivity, but other factors have to be evaluated. Simply stating the ground is bad because the chassis is used is ignorant. It may have been poorly executed in this case, but that doesn't mean chassis grounding is 'bad'. You're spreading misinformation. And software guys don't always understand hardware as much as they would like to think. Good luck.
The issue of proper grounding is very complicated because there are many competing goals that need to be addressed, including safety, noise, ground loops, EMI/EMC, frequency dependence, power vs signal, etc. Each of these argue for a particular approach to grounding and those approaches are often incompatible─so you have to make compromises. A couple of examples─should the shield of a cable be connected to the chassis at both ends (to establish a common reference voltage) or should it only be connected at one end (to prevent ground loops)? Answer: It depends─which issue is the bigger problem. Another example, should your grounding strategy be single-point (to reduce interaction of sensitive circuits via ground noise) or multi-point (to create a more solid ground plane)? Answer: It depends─often a hybrid approach is taken were DC is a single-point but, through the use of stitching capacitors, high frequency is multi-point.Lol good luck yourself buddy. I'm glad your "schooling" has paid off meanwhile it's my career. Each device has different requirements. for a DC-DC convertor it is piss poor grounding. For say a generator I can shove a grounding rod in the dirt and connect a 14 gauge wire to it and be fine from the ground lug. It's all about the application once you get some experience you'll learn. For instance you know resistive load testing on 3 phase AC doesn't need a neutral? probably not, you learn that from experience not from schooling. Also to be pretty frank and no offense, I know of at least 3 posters who lied about what they do for a living claiming to be electrical engineers but clearly aren't. one of them ripped off a bunch of people as well. Also had a dude in my comments on my channel claim i was wrong and he was an "expert in electronics" mooch jumped in and said i was right and this guy argued that both myself and mooch were wrong. I'm not saying this to offend you or talk down, I'm saying it cause I know what i know and your not the 1st to try and "correct" something that isn't wrong and you won't be the last to do so either
a waste of time...
to little factual information.
Another assumption is the company has added built in resistance to the firmware to fix poor connectivity. This could be the case
It's entirely possible the device is popping out of TC because the firmware or hardware is bugged and has nothing at all to do with the 510 connectivity method used.
Once the firmware isn't there to hide issues they become very apparent. Even if some alleged electrical engineer doesn't seem to think so
I don't ask for donations, I don't monetize my channel, I don't do affiliate links, and I don't take money for reviews and I still buy products for review.
And the community is getting exactly what it is paying for.
It depends on whether you use TC mode or VW mode. For me, the only thing that TC mode does is it just turns a good board in a good box into a bad board in a bad box... doesn't even matter which make or model so because I'll never use TC mode, but instead I'll only use the ArcticFox power curve feature and I'll only use that in VW mode, that's why, for me, it's a good board in an average box seeing as ArcticFox-compatible boards currently are THE ONLY boards that'll give me power curve usability on a triple battery regulated mod in this particular price range. The REAL waste of time is to try and explain that to the guy who loves to crap all over Wismec with his "correct information" and 4 years of "vaping experience" calling it "science" when the reality is he very clearly doesn't grok the concept of chassis grounding a board, as has been already pointed out correctly by @BoomStick days ago.Furthermore, I would assert that the Arctic Fox team has been wasting their time under the false assumption that the Joyetech, Wismec, Eleaf product lines were a good board in a bad box. It is my opinion that they are in fact an average board in an average box. And that the Arctic Fox firmware turns that average board into a bad board.
What research of his are you referring to? So far, I haven't seen any.Dude... Whatever you think of SirRichardRear's research,
What research of his are you referring to? So far, I haven't seen any.
Dude... Whatever you think of SirRichardRear's research, he didn't have to do it, and he owes nothing to the "community" - whatever the fuck that is.
Lol good luck yourself buddy. I'm glad your "schooling" has paid off meanwhile it's my career. Each device has different requirements. for a DC-DC convertor it is piss poor grounding. For say a generator I can shove a grounding rod in the dirt and connect a 14 gauge wire to it and be fine from the ground lug. It's all about the application once you get some experience you'll learn. For instance you know resistive load testing on 3 phase AC doesn't need a neutral? probably not, you learn that from experience not from schooling. Also to be pretty frank and no offense, I know of at least 3 posters who lied about what they do for a living claiming to be electrical engineers but clearly aren't. one of them ripped off a bunch of people as well. Also had a dude in my comments on my channel claim i was wrong and he was an "expert in electronics" mooch jumped in and said i was right and this guy argued that both myself and mooch were wrong. I'm not saying this to offend you or talk down, I'm saying it cause I know what i know and your not the 1st to try and "correct" something that isn't wrong and you won't be the last to do so either
I personally think debugging a Wismec device is pretty pointless, and the best thing to do with a Wismec mod is to buy another mod from another company. But for those who don't have much dough, bought one of them turds in good faith and are now stuck with it, his work means something. We should all be thankful for people like him.
It just so happens I haven't used a Wismec device on a daily basis since retiring my original RX200 that was still working.
What research of his are you referring to? So far, I haven't seen any.
Don't you think it's worth something?
I know that's what you're referring to.The material he gathered in his original post is what I'm referring to.
Look, I don't give two shits about Wismec mods, and I don't agree with everything he states in his post. But the fact remains that it's good information for someone who wants to get cracking on trying to fix the damn device. If I had purchased a RX Gen 3 (perish the thought), I'd be glad someone gathered all that information for me - even if I reserve the right to interpret the material differently. Don't you think it's worth something?
Are you interested in real facts or just plain old foolishness?
It is possible to add the cable. In fact DJLsb Vapes has done exactly that, but it didn't fix the issue at all, and, despite that the OP has called me a troll after I stated (in this thread as well as in other Wismec related threads not too long ago) he is spreading misinformation about the 510 by claiming the 510 is making poor contact with the mod, the simple fact it didn't fix the issue should be proof enough that I'm not trolling anyone. In addition, this isn't the first time the OP has made random accusations towards a person, sometimes even a whole bunch of people, who isn't/aren't anti-Wismec. I mean, the OP has flat out called these people things like "Wismec fanboy" and "getting paid to make a favorable review" ( = "shill" ). I have no idea what company the OP is working for, but, seeing as he thinks it's perfectly OK to─without backing up those accusations of course─accuse practically everyone who has ever reviewed the RX300, from now on it should be perfectly OK for others to refer to the OP as "resident Quack".Any possible solution so far? I have basic experience in soldering. Is it possible to add a cable from the 510 to the board?
After almost a month of owning the Gen3 I have to admit that the OP is right. The TC is not working with builds under .2 and exotic coils.
Probably the DNA Gen3 will fix this issue.
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That said, it would probably be wise to simply accept thattriple and quad battery regulatedmods by Wismec are not among the best choice of modfor TC mode
You can argue till hell freezes with him that any regulated mod that can't work properly in TC mode must be a shit mod, but should you so decide,[...[
All u gotta do is look at his history and mine and see who the quack is the fact he is even calling me a quack is pretty much proof enough though.Any possible solution so far? I have basic experience in soldering. Is it possible to add a cable from the 510 to the board?
After almost a month of owning the Gen3 I have to admit that the OP is right. The TC is not working with builds under .2 and exotic coils.
Probably the DNA Gen3 will fix this issue.
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Let me ask you just one simple question, then. In this particular price range, what triple or quad battery mod do you know will let me use, in wattage mode, a user-defined power curve (for preheat) without me having to constantly jump through burning hoops like on the Boxer mod where you have to keep adjusting each and every single dot on the curve each time when I want to quickly change the wattage I'm vaping?There. Fixed that for you
Takes less than 10 minutes to fix with JB Weld or super glue. And letting it dry for 24 hours so yeah, I get the point that it's not exactly ideal, at least not for everyone, BUT... I was talking specifically about regulated mods with 3 (or 4) 18650 batteries in them, and, maybe what's ideal for you is also ideal for everyone else in YOUR part of the universe so please feel free to go down that route again... I'm sure you'll make yourself popular.Unstable resistance reading is the least of Wismec mods' problems. Their losing their 510 sockets,
So just don't buy that one particular model.catching on fire,
I can see how that can be annoying. But neither my RX2/3 nor my RX300 have ever given me that problem.buzzing strangely
Never had that problem either. Chain vaping at .1 ohms.and smelling hot with low resistance coils,
Never charge your 18650 batteries inside a mod. Doesn't matter which mod.heating up alarmingly when charging over USB,
So just don't buy that one particular model... times two.or catching on fire without warning
Do you want to hear about what I think is wrong with all the other brands?are why potential buyers should avoid the brand. I'm not saying these things happens to all WIsmec mods, but it's happened enough to make their devices a liability as far as safety is concerned.
I am calling you Quack because I'm being brutally honest AND the proof has already been found that that's EXACTLY what you are. Red handedly, I believe it's called.All u gotta do is look at his history and mine and see who the quack is the fact he is even calling me a quack is pretty much proof enough though.
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All u gotta do is look at his history and mine and see who the quack is the fact he is even calling me a quack is pretty much proof enough though.
outside of that I work in the power generation field, i have worked on UPS systems, Solar, Generators (including resistive load bank testing), ATS's but my main field is IT and networking. due to being in this field and having many friends in it, I've learned mechanics/engines (work on my own cars), low voltage (phone systems, switch boards etc), electricity (home wiring and industrial wiring) and a few other tricks of the trade.
outside of that though, to be honest all those skills are pretty irrelevant and not needed as all the information i provided is readily available as long as you understand how to read it. I explain that in the video I don't claim to be an expert by any means, however my working knowledge of UPS systems has many similarities to the tech used in regulated mods.
"resident Quack"
"Resident Quack"
Just borrowing it until the VU staff will (soon hopefully) assign the new banner, mate.I would like to report a theft...
Dude... Whatever you think of SirRichardRear's research, he didn't have to do it, and he owes nothing to the "community" - whatever the fuck that is.
I understand that one who decides to have a somewhat public life needs to have a pretty inflated idea of their own worth to believe people will be interested in what they have to say. That goes for youtubers, but also politicians, news channels pundits, reality TV idiots... I mean, most people you meet in life have have very little talent. But some think they have so much to offer they decide to inflict their views and opinion on a wider audience. Clearly they can't see themselves as what they really are.
The fact that you are here defending him is even more troubling based on your prior use of common sense.
I understand, but I completely disagree because the material in question is not only flawed, but also to the point of insulting my intelligence. That's because the material I presented in post #68 can easily be verified simply by asking any electronics expert (any SANE electronics expert, that is...) so, simply put, if you really want the drama to stop, then all you have to do is stop your drama against Wismec, i.e., give us clear reliable evidence instead of adding more quackery and drama, or once and for all just shut the fuck up.You don't understand: I defend his right not to be mercilessly flamed and insulted for material that, however flawed, he took the time to put together.
You don't understand: I defend his right not to be mercilessly flamed and insulted for material that, however flawed, he took the time to put together.
Does that make sense?
I understand, but I completely disagree because the material in question is not only flawed, but also to the point of insulting my intelligence. That's because the material I presented in post #68 can easily be verified simply by asking any electronics expert (any SANE electronics expert, that is...) so, simply put, if you really want the drama to stop, then all you have to do is stop your drama against Wismec, i.e., give us clear reliable evidence instead of adding more quackery and drama, or once and for all just shut the fuck up.
The guy you're talking to doesn't want to hear the truth. He only loves to hear himself talk on YouTube.Isn't this all moot point now that Daniel of DJLSB already proved that running a wire from the 510 directly to the PCB did not fix the TC popping out issue? At this point you have to assume the 510 is not the issue and that it is either a software problem or a hardware problem with the chip. And I'm not sure where you got the idea that UPS units are not grounded to their chassis. They are indeed grounded to the chassis and for good reason.