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[KingPin!]

Does anyone here space their aliens? I was speaking to a builder and he said it was a good idea to space your aliens. He said sugary juice won't caramelize as fast since any extra juice left in the coils, after a hit, gets sucked back down by the cotton when the coils are spaced slightly. Fact or fiction???

I'd say thats true because that sugary crap wont sit on top as easily ...however is does sit somewhere which will be the bit underneath making cleaning a bit more of a mission ....I actually think spacing adds to the flavour a little anyway, a few more pockets exposed. The downside is its just affect the smoothness of the vape and crackling a little

 

[CrazyChef v2.0]

Yes, but one of the aspects of the alien is that it's almost completely self wicking. There will still be juice within the waves, which is really no different than between the wraps - the wraps consisting of waves touching each other. On a well made alien, the waves should have no definable spacing between them.

 

[zephyr]

Yeah exactly, I figure I'll probably do a couple fraliens, for one I know I'll vape them and love it, for another thing I don't want to loose my feeling when it comes to my favorite build! Meg, I know you don't like N80, what if I made you a couple single coil ShredTravolta style fraliens with all Kanthal, you could probably dual them. I promise I won't let you down. Whadya say?? It's the least I could do for the beautiful coils you sent me!

Have you tried any of them yet? and sure, if you really want to I've never tried someone else's handmade coils before, that could be cool

 

[zephyr]

I think I need more clothespins???

 

[Jriley]

Some recent wirey things. Tsuka / Helix / stagg

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[zephyr]

Not what I was planning, at all, but here anyway




I was gonna do a helix then decided to grab a small decore laying on the table...then I was gonna try a stagger alien again but forgot to add more cores after the first pass

So this is fine I guess

 

[zephyr]

Fold and crimp the ends to keep the 46 wraps from sliding...hopefully

3x30 and 2x26 stainless steel for someone else

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

I'd say thats true because that sugary crap wont sit on top as easily ...however is does sit somewhere which will be the bit underneath making cleaning a bit more of a mission ....I actually think spacing adds to the flavour a little anyway, a few more pockets exposed. The downside is its just affect the smoothness of the vape and crackling a little

You where right about affecting the smoothness of the hit. I think i will continue to keep them flush instead of spaced. Thanks!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Yes, but one of the aspects of the alien is that it's almost completely self wicking. There will still be juice within the waves, which is really no different than between the wraps - the wraps consisting of waves touching each other. On a well made alien, the waves should have no definable spacing between them.

Good observation!! Yeah, i'm going to continue to make my alien without spacing them. They also take longer to ramp up! lol Thanks!!

 

[MrMeowgi]

Not what I was planning, at all, but here anyway

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I was gonna do a helix then decided to grab a small decore laying on the table...then I was gonna try a stagger alien again but forgot to add more cores after the first pass

So this is fine I guess

That's an awesome mistake.

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[chrisakasparky]

Ok fellas I’m super proud of myself lol
Made a slentre coil with a framed staple inside. My first slentre coil after a couple of practice braids. I got just BARELY enough for one coil, I told my self I’d stop braiding when the loops got too small or the wire snapped. Both happened heh very fortunate.

Slentre framed staple
2x28g, 8x.3mm, 5 loop 36g
All n80, 3mm ID, 0.14 ohms single

Edit: I’m vaping it. Maybe it’s because it took 2-3 hours to make, but it seems to vapes really good. I was doing the 12ply fralien, and this doesn’t seem to dry out as fast. And without the top cap it spits a lot more but very fine droplets. In my mind, that means lots of available juice and a broad temp range within the wraps. The staples light up quick under the cooler wraps, but upon letting off the power, you can see everything glowing evenly. So pretty and fun. It’s also really fat. Like almost wider than the air slot on my KTX. the stick is probably like.. 2mm wide or something
Without vaping I’d still be smoking 2 packs a day and coil building has helped me quit drinking too much and cut back on other greener combustibles. Y’all are a great bunch, and I’m glad this forum is so active.


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[The_hat_trix]

Ok fellas I’m super proud of myself lol
Made a slentre coil with a framed staple inside. My first slentre coil after a couple of practice braids. I got just BARELY enough for one coil, I told my self I’d stop braiding when the loops got too small or the wire snapped. Both happened heh very fortunate.

Slentre framed staple
2x28g, 8x.3mm, 5 loop 36g
All n80, 3mm ID, 0.14 ohms single

Edit: I’m vaping it. Maybe it’s because it took 2-3 hours to make, but it seems to vapes really good. I was doing the 12ply fralien, and this doesn’t seem to dry out as fast. And without the top cap it spits a lot more but very fine droplets. In my mind, that means lots of available juice and a broad temp range within the wraps. The staples light up quick under the cooler wraps, but upon letting off the power, you can see everything glowing evenly. So pretty and fun.
Without vaping I’d still be smoking 2 packs a day and coil building has helped me quit drinking too much and cut back on other greener combustibles. Y’all are a great bunch, and I’m glad this forum is so active.


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God damn man that's just wonderful i tried braiding yesterday 4 atempts and i found my weakest spot in coil building the fucking braiding With drill i get almost emeadiatly the point of each coils but the braiding whooooah i just fail and fail I will try it today again. How did you manage to keep ribbon stack stacked while braiding, mine collapsed nomather what i did. Too much tighting but how you manage to do so tight braiding while them not being collapsed?

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[chrisakasparky]

God damn man that's just wonderful i tried braiding yesterday 4 atempts and i found my weakest spot in coil building the fucking braiding With drill i get almost emeadiatly the point of each coils but the braiding whooooah i just fail and fail I will try it today again. How did you manage to keep ribbon stack stacked while braiding, mine collapsed nomather what i did. Too much tighting but how you manage to do so tight braiding while them not being collapsed?

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Thanks so much man, means a lot coming from you! Meanwhile I haven’t tied staggering lol. I prepped a 6-7 inch stick for a framed staple, nice and straight, with like 4 ribbon sliders. I clamped it vertically with all the loops. I started with the slider close to the clamp, but I moved it about 3 inches away after I started braiding because I was seeing that the braiding process was pulling the ribbon together really well and the ribbon was staying straight. I also trimmed the sliders so there were nothing to snag on while braiding. Also make the loops really long because mine were about twice the length of the stick and I ended up trimming the stick down once the loops were getting short. The loops also start getting twisted and wanting to flop or come off your finger tips when the loops get short. It was my first try and it was actually really easy. Just do perfect prep with straight ass wire. Also practice first with 28 or 30 gauge over some thick core to figure out the braiding first. I had like 4 different braids on my practice stick from my other post where I was trying to figure out what to do with my fingers. And watch a movie or listen to music or something cause it’s a slow process even in the groove.


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[mach1ne]

Ok fellas I’m super proud of myself lol
Made a slentre coil with a framed staple inside. My first slentre coil after a couple of practice braids. I got just BARELY enough for one coil, I told my self I’d stop braiding when the loops got too small or the wire snapped. Both happened heh very fortunate.

Slentre framed staple
2x28g, 8x.3mm, 5 loop 36g
All n80, 3mm ID, 0.14 ohms single

Edit: I’m vaping it. Maybe it’s because it took 2-3 hours to make, but it seems to vapes really good. I was doing the 12ply fralien, and this doesn’t seem to dry out as fast. And without the top cap it spits a lot more but very fine droplets. In my mind, that means lots of available juice and a broad temp range within the wraps. The staples light up quick under the cooler wraps, but upon letting off the power, you can see everything glowing evenly. So pretty and fun. It’s also really fat. Like almost wider than the air slot on my KTX. the stick is probably like.. 2mm wide or something
Without vaping I’d still be smoking 2 packs a day and coil building has helped me quit drinking too much and cut back on other greener combustibles. Y’all are a great bunch, and I’m glad this forum is so active.


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great work man, holy shit i have barely tried braiding. i did the starter braids and i didnt really like the vape from any of them enough to think 'wow, i cant wait to try a more advanced braid' and stuck with my fused claptons at the time. occasionally someone here will post a brute like that one and remind me that i should reconsider

 

[KingPin!]

Ok fellas I’m super proud of myself lol
Made a slentre coil with a framed staple inside. My first slentre coil after a couple of practice braids. I got just BARELY enough for one coil, I told my self I’d stop braiding when the loops got too small or the wire snapped. Both happened heh very fortunate.

Slentre framed staple
2x28g, 8x.3mm, 5 loop 36g
All n80, 3mm ID, 0.14 ohms single

Edit: I’m vaping it. Maybe it’s because it took 2-3 hours to make, but it seems to vapes really good. I was doing the 12ply fralien, and this doesn’t seem to dry out as fast. And without the top cap it spits a lot more but very fine droplets. In my mind, that means lots of available juice and a broad temp range within the wraps. The staples light up quick under the cooler wraps, but upon letting off the power, you can see everything glowing evenly. So pretty and fun. It’s also really fat. Like almost wider than the air slot on my KTX. the stick is probably like.. 2mm wide or something
Without vaping I’d still be smoking 2 packs a day and coil building has helped me quit drinking too much and cut back on other greener combustibles. Y’all are a great bunch, and I’m glad this forum is so active.


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Chris! Thats epic well bloody done

ive been wanting to make this coil for ages! In fact it was my next objective

If you have time id really appreciate it if you can share you experiences making it in the official braid thread

 

[Shredtravolta]

Ok fellas I’m super proud of myself lol
Made a slentre coil with a framed staple inside. My first slentre coil after a couple of practice braids. I got just BARELY enough for one coil, I told my self I’d stop braiding when the loops got too small or the wire snapped. Both happened heh very fortunate.

Slentre framed staple
2x28g, 8x.3mm, 5 loop 36g
All n80, 3mm ID, 0.14 ohms single

Edit: I’m vaping it. Maybe it’s because it took 2-3 hours to make, but it seems to vapes really good. I was doing the 12ply fralien, and this doesn’t seem to dry out as fast. And without the top cap it spits a lot more but very fine droplets. In my mind, that means lots of available juice and a broad temp range within the wraps. The staples light up quick under the cooler wraps, but upon letting off the power, you can see everything glowing evenly. So pretty and fun. It’s also really fat. Like almost wider than the air slot on my KTX. the stick is probably like.. 2mm wide or something
Without vaping I’d still be smoking 2 packs a day and coil building has helped me quit drinking too much and cut back on other greener combustibles. Y’all are a great bunch, and I’m glad this forum is so active.


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I think that build looks great! Really awesome job!

 

[Shredtravolta]

Not what I was planning, at all, but here anyway

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I was gonna do a helix then decided to grab a small decore laying on the table...then I was gonna try a stagger alien again but forgot to add more cores after the first pass

So this is fine I guess

Good job Meg! That's a hard build to pull off I've only done it once and swore I would never do it again. Really clean. Love the coloring!

 

[william.osendott]

Ok fellas I’m super proud of myself lol
Made a slentre coil with a framed staple inside. My first slentre coil after a couple of practice braids. I got just BARELY enough for one coil, I told my self I’d stop braiding when the loops got too small or the wire snapped. Both happened heh very fortunate.

Slentre framed staple
2x28g, 8x.3mm, 5 loop 36g
All n80, 3mm ID, 0.14 ohms single

Edit: I’m vaping it. Maybe it’s because it took 2-3 hours to make, but it seems to vapes really good. I was doing the 12ply fralien, and this doesn’t seem to dry out as fast. And without the top cap it spits a lot more but very fine droplets. In my mind, that means lots of available juice and a broad temp range within the wraps. The staples light up quick under the cooler wraps, but upon letting off the power, you can see everything glowing evenly. So pretty and fun. It’s also really fat. Like almost wider than the air slot on my KTX. the stick is probably like.. 2mm wide or something
Without vaping I’d still be smoking 2 packs a day and coil building has helped me quit drinking too much and cut back on other greener combustibles. Y’all are a great bunch, and I’m glad this forum is so active.


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dude, that's f******g awesome!

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[The_hat_trix]

Thanks so much man, means a lot coming from you! Meanwhile I haven’t tied staggering lol. I prepped a 6-7 inch stick for a framed staple, nice and straight, with like 4 ribbon sliders. I clamped it vertically with all the loops. I started with the slider close to the clamp, but I moved it about 3 inches away after I started braiding because I was seeing that the braiding process was pulling the ribbon together really well and the ribbon was staying straight. I also trimmed the sliders so there were nothing to snag on while braiding. Also make the loops really long because mine were about twice the length of the stick and I ended up trimming the stick down once the loops were getting short. The loops also start getting twisted and wanting to flop or come off your finger tips when the loops get short. It was my first try and it was actually really easy. Just do perfect prep with straight ass wire. Also practice first with 28 or 30 gauge over some thick core to figure out the braiding first. I had like 4 different braids on my practice stick from my other post where I was trying to figure out what to do with my fingers. And watch a movie or listen to music or something cause it’s a slow process even in the groove.


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I'm really about to fucking throw all my spools out of window I don't even know what i'm doing wrong i do all the things in tutorials all i get is just bunch of nonsense i'm really really pissed off

 

[Shredtravolta]

I'm really about to fucking throw all my spools out of window I don't even know what i'm doing wrong i do all the things in tutorials all i get is just bunch of nonsense i'm really really pissed off

Don't throw your spools out the window!! If you're gonna do that just mail em to me!

 

[The_hat_trix]

Don't throw your spools out the window!! If you're gonna do that just mail em to me!

it's just so simple and i don't get...

 

[KingPin!]

I'm really about to fucking throw all my spools out of window I don't even know what i'm doing wrong i do all the things in tutorials all i get is just bunch of nonsense i'm really really pissed off

I feel ya mate I get build days like that haha ...come back it try something else

 

[Shredtravolta]

it's just so simple and i don't get...

I feel the exact same way about the alien stagg! But every time I do it, it gets a little better, and a little better, and I get a little more of the feeling, and I feel less and less like throwing all my already disorganized spools out of the window. You'll get it brother. You're one of the best technical builders here. Just believe in yourself and have a little patience.

 

[chrisakasparky]

Thanks everyone. By the way, I go by Sparky. Friends family coworkers and all.


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[gsmit1]

It's awesome good vape?

I haven't had the chance to try that pair out yet

Great job brother. I remember doing my first fused clapton and thinking "this vapes so much better than any tank I have". I ended up being a sole unregulated mech mod user. Keep on building!!!

Thank you sir.
There is definitely no comparison between a decent build and any tank setup that I've tried anyway.

good start brother!! once you get it down, try and work on a smaller wrap than 32.. maybe try 36 next, you'll find it's not much harder, but a better vape.. then you can move on down to 38 (and if you're a true pro like meg, mach1ne, raymo, etc. 46g, 50g, etc lol) keep up the good work man, keep practicing and pushing yourself. there's lots of help, knowledge, and inspiration in this thread. welcome!

edit: you may also wanna try Nichrome 80 (N80) and/or 316L Stainless Steel.

And thank you too sir
I actually do have some some nichrome80 and 316 SS. Still learning and playing around, but I am loving that nichrome in my Bonza RDA.

As soon as I can, I'm going to go for some higher gauges for sure. My first shot at this went significantly better than I anticipated. Especially with the totally rigged up swivel and drill thing I had to put together because I am poor LOL. Eagle Claw number 4 ball bearing swivels from Walmart for a buck 60. And a $20 rechargeable drill.

 

[gsmit1]

You guys (and gals ) blow my mind btw.

 

[The_hat_trix]

After 7 hours and i dont know like 100miles of wasted 36awg i think i finally figure it out like the how to do it but tired as fuck could not consentrate enough for doing clean job.... I'm goin to take like couple of days brake from this now

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[zephyr]

I made myself get better at 40 awg aliens today, improved my prep methods and started using a PVC pipe to keep the decore safe, used one gauge lower decore for extra swooshiness on these but seems that causes some extra space between wraps

3x30 and 2x26 316L / 40 K




And three for me

This one is 28+26+28/40

I still need to work on coiling with pliers

 

[william.osendott]

question.. I have an idea for a build I'm about to try, but I'm kinda stumped. anyone have an idea how one might easily space Clapton 2 cores without paraclaptoning?

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[MrMeowgi]

3x28/40 from last night but my phone died while taking the photo

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[william.osendott]

4*28g / 36g Alien all N80 3.0mm ID

why is it that when I try a 3 core (28g or 26g) it comes out looking like shit and I'm lucky if I get enough to make a 2.5mm coil, but if I do 4 cores, I never make a mistake. I run through my decore wide open and it lays just perfect every time?

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[zephyr]

On a well made alien, the waves should have no definable spacing between them.

Hey, this alien seems to have spaces between waves, still wicks by itself

The classic Twisted Messes alien review, I remember watching this about 2 years ago and thinking "awesome, yeah I'll never get to try that" but loved watching this lol

Puts liquid on coil at 8:30

 

[william.osendott]

it occurs to me that the simple act of wrapping the coil causes the wrap to space a bit, but I'm far from an expert

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[mach1ne]

question.. I have an idea for a build I'm about to try, but I'm kinda stumped. anyone have an idea how one might easily space Clapton 2 cores without paraclaptoning?

the loop trick should work on 2 round wires pretty good. maybe stay at slow/medium to reduce possible jumping around...

why is it that when I try a 3 core (28g or 26g) it comes out looking like shit and I'm lucky if I get enough to make a 2.5mm coil, but if I do 4 cores, I never make a mistake. I run through my decore wide open and it lays just perfect every time?

imo >3, or staple stacks (framed or not) are much sturdier than 3xround wire.

great braid @The_hat_trix a battle well fought

very clean 40 @Wtmke1

beautiful colors @Pegleg Meg and all those little dime-bags of coils...your builds are so dope

 

[chrisakasparky]

Had a couple of staples collapse on my today. So I made a couple 28g fused Claptons to have a victory lol. Also picked up a nemesis clone, my first tube. This pair sits at .27 ohms.

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[william.osendott]

I was thinking the loop trick, but was afraid itd just twist them up.. I'll give it a shot, thanks..

I also noticed that on these last 4 core aliens, I made them because the wrap slipped off of a spaced Clapton I was doing for a sfc, so I stretched it and did the alien. seems that it's easier if you use a spaced wrap.. it also makes it much easier to space the alien wrap if you want to make an alien stagg.. I've learned a bit from accidents.

hey meg, maybe try spacing your Clapton and using that decore in your alien staggs??

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[chrisakasparky]

Today’s fails.
As you can see, I like to twist and mangle my messed up sticks. Hehe.
Thinking of starting a “graveyard”’thread for pics of bad wraps, messed up sticks, and and broken wire. I love when people share their work even when it fails.

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[chrisakasparky]

it occurs to me that the simple act of wrapping the coil causes the wrap to space a bit, but I'm far from an expert

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Definitely. The geometry says that contact on the inside of the wrap means gaps on the outside.


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[Puneet]

Another failed attempt of creating my own coil. 3 cores of 24 Ni80 , outer wrap of 32ni80. Inner cores coiled/turned and I’m left with this

I’m still going to vape this as I have given it my sweat and blood


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[chrisakasparky]

Another failed attempt of creating my own coil. 3 cores of 24 Ni80 , outer wrap of 32ni80. Inner cores coiled/turned and I’m left with this

I’m still going to vape this as I have given it my sweat and blood


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Looks nice still I’m sure it’ll vape well! What are the ohms though? How many wraps?
Also, I think higher gauges are actually easier to wrap multiple cores because it’s not as hard to bend the wrap wire so there’s not so much stress on the cores.
Try to make a 2 core staggered fused Clapton with the same gauges you used this time. There’s some easy tricks to make staggered cores and there really easy with 32 gauge wire. One of the first coils I ever made was that, and I haven’t been able to do it with 36 gauge. It’s way easier than it looks go for it your wraps are clean!!


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[Puneet]

Looks nice still I’m sure it’ll vape well! What are the ohms though? How many wraps?
Also, I think higher gauges are actually easier to wrap multiple cores because it’s not as hard to bend the wrap wire so there’s not so much stress on the cores.
Try to make a 2 core staggered fused Clapton with the same gauges you used this time. There’s some easy tricks to make staggered cores and there really easy with 32 gauge wire. One of the first coils I ever made was that, and I haven’t been able to do it with 36 gauge. It’s way easier than it looks go for it your wraps are clean!!


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Thanks
But it was 3 cores and was so big that my rda refused to take it in. only 1 coil which I was able to push in read 0.13 ohms.

Note to self: 2 inner cores and higher gauge outer wire next time. I still have to figure out the way to stop my cores from coiling.


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[KingPin!]

Stickied all the “Official” threads now think that’ll do though anymore and Itll take over page one entirely! Should have most categories covered now right?

 

[william.osendott]

Another failed attempt of creating my own coil. 3 cores of 24 Ni80 , outer wrap of 32ni80. Inner cores coiled/turned and I’m left with this

I’m still going to vape this as I have given it my sweat and blood


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3*24 N80 is gonna be looooooow lol

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edit: on a positive note, I've had that happen back in the day, take it off the swivel, hold that end with pliers and twist

also, prep is everything.. take the time to make sure wires are straight, hot glue them.. get you either the 3d printed sliders, make one out of wire, use a paperclip, or my favorite - the toggle thing off a hoodie.. use one of those to hold your cores flat. Clapton up to it, then slide it down an inch or two.. use nylon or toothless pliers to fix any twists by squeezing cores flat as soon as you see them start to get wonky.. included is a picture of a "toggle thingy" lol

 

[CrazyChef v2.0]

Hey, this alien seems to have spaces between waves, still wicks by itself

it occurs to me that the simple act of wrapping the coil causes the wrap to space a bit, but I'm far from an expert

Definitely. The geometry says that contact on the inside of the wrap means gaps on the outside.

Dammit... It's not often that I'm wrong, but in this case - What was I thinking? Like Sparky said, it's the geometry/physics of the coil that cause the outer waves to separate a bit.

 

[zephyr]

Stickied all the “Official” threads now think that’ll do though anymore and Itll take over page one entirely! Should have most categories covered now right?

Maybe a Fusing thread?

 

[Shredtravolta]

4*28g / 36g Alien all N80 3.0mm ID

why is it that when I try a 3 core (28g or 26g) it comes out looking like shit and I'm lucky if I get enough to make a 2.5mm coil, but if I do 4 cores, I never make a mistake. I run through my decore wide open and it lays just perfect every time?

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Super clean coil. Looks great. I actually find that the amount of cores in an alien build doesn't really affect the difficulty if you 1) know how to keep your wires parallel and 2) have your decore size and stretch/tension figured out. Beautiful build!

 

[Shredtravolta]

Today’s fails.
As you can see, I like to twist and mangle my messed up sticks. Hehe.
Thinking of starting a “graveyard”’thread for pics of bad wraps, messed up sticks, and and broken wire. I love when people share their work even when it fails.

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[Shredtravolta]

I made myself get better at 40 awg aliens today, improved my prep methods and started using a PVC pipe to keep the decore safe, used one gauge lower decore for extra swooshiness on these but seems that causes some extra space between wraps

3x30 and 2x26 316L / 40 K

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And three for me
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This one is 28+26+28/40
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I still need to work on coiling with pliers

Great job aliening with 40 Meg! I've done a lot of aliening but never above 38g I almost always go with 36g. Maybe 40g vapes better and I should give it a try. Love your colors too!

 

[KingPin!]

Maybe a Fusing thread?

the official stagger/fusing can cater to both

 

[Shredtravolta]

Another failed attempt of creating my own coil. 3 cores of 24 Ni80 , outer wrap of 32ni80. Inner cores coiled/turned and I’m left with this

I’m still going to vape this as I have given it my sweat and blood


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Honestly it probably won't vape bad at all. When I was first starting out. I would use a paperclip to keep my round wire parallel. I know there is nothing really sophisticated about that but it did work for me. Still looks like a nice wire to me man.