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Maybe you are unaware of how a Constitutional Republic is supposed to work.

We the people set policy by electing a President, Senator and Congressman to do our bidding within the confines of the Constitution.

It does not matter if Trump cares. It only matters that he does what we elected him to do which in this case is to be tough on ILLEGAL immigration.

Whether or not you libtards like it or not and whether or not you think Trump cares is moot. The right wing set policy by electing Trump and Trump IS doing what we elected him to do as President.

I mean, you can whine until the cows come home that Trump is doing what we elected him to do but I find it refreshing compared to recent histories past Presidents who did what THEY wanted to do under the guise of "what's best for the Country" rather than what We The People elected them to do.

As long as trump does what he was voted for, who cares what he does!

Give examples of what your people wanted trump to do

Here’s what I’m getting from your comment, AS LONG AS HE DOES WHAT WE VOTERS VOTED HIM FOR, we don’t really care what he does behind the camera! That’s my main argument bro....



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That's not what I meant and it makes you a liar.

Fuck off, liar.

I didn't say a fucking thing about "behind the cameras". You did. That's your imaginary bullshit.

There goes the dragon
Just because you dint say it, it doesn’t mean it’s not there.

You calling me a liar!? Why! Because you didn’t say the word CAMERAS.



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Sorry ej. If your going to make a lair of yourself I'll just treat you like bobbi.

Editing my posts and calling it a quote isn't honest.

Just because you imagine something, does not make it so and I don't pay attention to your imaginary dragons.

Show me evidence or shut the fuck up.

Edit your shit? The fuck!
What particular criminal action do you need evidence for?


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As long as trump does what he was voted for, who cares what he does!

For fuck sake. :rolleyes:

I'll rewrite that for you.

As long as trump does what he was voted for, who cares what he thinks/says!


Here’s what I’m getting from your comment, AS LONG AS HE DOES WHAT WE VOTERS VOTED HIM FOR, we don’t really care what he does behind the camera! That’s my main argument bro....

You got it wrong.

Bobbi basically said that Trump only cares about illegal immigrants because red hats care about illegal immigrants.

I'm saying it does not matter why/if Trump cares about illegal immigrants. It doesn't matter if Trump is pandering to the red hats to get votes as long as he does what the red hats(his voters) want.

You are talking about extra shit that you made up. You are talking about corruption that I call imaginary dragons. I don't care about your imaginary dragons because they are imaginary. Illegal immigrants are real. Imaginary corruption is all in your fucking head and I don't pay attention to fake shit floating around in your brain. ;)
 

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For fuck sake.

I'll rewrite that for you.

As long as trump does what he was voted for, who cares what he thinks/says!




You got it wrong.

Bobbi basically said that Trump only cares about illegal immigrants because red hats care about illegal immigrants.

I'm saying it does not matter why/if Trump cares about illegal immigrants. It doesn't matter if Trump is pandering to the red hats to get votes as long as he does what the red hats(his voters) want.

You are talking about extra shit that you made up. You are talking about corruption that I call imaginary dragons. I don't care about your imaginary dragons because they are imaginary. Illegal immigrants are real. Imaginary corruption is all in your fucking head and I don't pay attention to fake shit floating around in your brain. ;)

I know exactly what you said to bob....

Illegal immigration is nothing new!

And you also said,he’s doing what he was voted for,whether trump cares or not it’s debatable!
Correct?

My imaginary dragons may not be real to you for obvious reasons, but for me, FROM THE DAY TRUMP ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY I knew he wants to be president to enrich his family and to enrich his criminal friends.... here’s the shit when I said RED HATS DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT TRUMP DOES OFF CAMERA. But hey he’s doing what we voted him for! And that’s all that matters!


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Edit your shit? The fuck!
What particular criminal action do you need evidence for?


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Trump has been an open book and on center stage in the MSM since the early 70s.... if there was any real or NEW dirt on him we would have seen it on CNN. And fox would still beat them on the story... Hannity is pro Trump the rest will eat him for dinner if they could.

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here’s the shit when I said RED HATS DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT TRUMP DOES OFF CAMERA.

Um, I don't give a shit if Trump fucks a porn star or not if that's what you mean. ;)

But, I think you mean he is corrupt and red hats don't care. But that's not true.

There is nothing that says Trump is corrupt. Why the fuck would I care that you think Trump is corrupt? I don't care if you think UFO's, Ghosts or Bigfoot is real. It has nothing to do with anything.

You show red hats real proof that Trump is corrupt and they will care. But they are not going to care about imaginary corruption. And, that's all you have.

Trump's immigration policy is real and I like it but you want me to hate Trump for some imaginary shit in your head. That ain't gonna happen bro. You can hate the man for shit that you made up in your own mind if you want. I mean, I know a kid that hates peas but has never eaten a fucking pea. If you chose to hate something based on what you think you know, rather than what you really know, that's on you. I'm sticking with what I really know. And I really know there is no evidence that Trump is corrupt.
 

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Um, I don't give a shit if Trump fucks a porn star or not if that's what you mean. ;)

But, I think you mean he is corrupt and red hats don't care. But that's not true.

There is nothing that says Trump is corrupt. Why the fuck would I care that you think Trump is corrupt? I don't care if you think UFO's, Ghosts or Bigfoot is real. It has nothing to do with anything.

You show red hats real proof that Trump is corrupt and they will care. But they are not going to care about imaginary corruption. And, that's all you have.

Trump's immigration policy is real and I like it but you want me to hate Trump for some imaginary shit in your head. That ain't gonna happen bro. You can hate the man for shit that you made up in your own mind if you want. I mean, I know a kid that hates peas but has never eaten a fucking pea. If you chose to hate something based on what you think you know, rather than what you really know, that's on you. I'm sticking with what I really know. And I really know there is no evidence that Trump is corrupt.

Red hats would care if presented evidences of corruption is a moot!!!!
I believe redhats are sheeps and nothing that trump would do is gonna change their minds...

I never said trumps immigration policy is false!
Monetizing on the illegal immigration is wrong!
I can’t prove it, but I believe the trump org is monetizing on that shit, that’s what trump does!

All politicians are corrupt!





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Trump U?

Ohh wait Trump has always hidden behind corporate structures and such....
 

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I can’t prove it, but I believe the trump org is monetizing on that shit,

Meh.

Why the hell would I care about a belief?

My grandkids still believe in Santa but I don't plan Christmas based on what they believe. Like, I buy them presents because I know Santa isn't really going to bring them some. :giggle:

Thanks to me not believing in Santa, I can help make their Christmas great, just like me not believing in your theories makes it so I can help Make America Great Again. :p
 

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Meh.

Why the hell would I care about a belief?

My grandkids still believe in Santa but I don't plan Christmas based on what they believe. Like, I buy them presents because I know Santa isn't really going to bring them some. :giggle:

Thanks to me not believing in Santa, I can help make their Christmas great, just like me not believing in your theories makes it so I can help Make America Great Again. :p

Yo don’t have to believe me nor I’m trying to make others believe me, you believe what you believe that’s on you... stop lying to your grandkids bro that’s not nice


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Yo don’t have to believe me nor I’m trying to make others believe me, you believe what you believe that’s on you... stop lying to your grandkids bro that’s not nice


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Hold up now, pump the brakes.

Earlier you tried to say that I don't care if Trump is corrupt as long as he does what the voters want.

So, now do you see that what I really was saying is that I don't care if you think Trump is corrupt as long as Trump is doing what his voters want? I don't have to think Trump is corrupt, right?
 

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Hold up now, pump the brakes.

Earlier you tried to say that I don't care if Trump is corrupt as long as he does what the voters want.

So, now do you see that what I really was saying is that I don't care if you think Trump is corrupt as long as Trump is doing what his voters want? I don't have to think Trump is corrupt, right?

No i didn’t try to tell you, I told you what you stated,that trump voters don’t care what he does behind cameras!

Exactly, you “don’t” want to think about trump being corrupt, and you don’t have to care about what I think about him!
Do you!
I DO ME!


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FREEDOM FOUNDATION FUNDING SOURCES

The Freedom Foundation is a “think tank” that states its mission is to “advance individual liberty, free enterprise, and limited, accountable government.”

The foundation is registered with the IRS as a nonprofit organization. As a result, they are not required to publicly disclose any of their contributors, and the Freedom Foundation has refused to say where their funding is coming from.

An IRS complaint has been filed, alleging the Freedom Foundation is actually an overtly partisan organization engaging in activities that are prohibited for nonprofit organizations.[ii]

In spite of the Freedom Foundation’s secrecy, researchers have been able to identify some of their donors.

Here’s a list of known Freedom Foundation contributors:

DonorsTrust

Co-founded by Whitney Ball and deeply connected to the Koch brothers,[iii] DonorsTrust provides a vehicle for wealthy donors who wish to conceal their identity.[iv] DonorsTrust has funded “the right’s assault on labor unions, climate scientists, public schools, economic regulations, and the very premise of activist government.”[v]

Donors Capital Fund

DonorsTrust refers clients to Donor Capital Trust if they are expected to open a donor-advised account in excess of $1,000,000.[vi]

State Policy Network

An umbrella organization spending more than $83 million each year that provides funding and support to more than 64 “free market think tanks” across the nation. SPN President Tracie Sharp is a founder of the Freedom Foundation.[vii] SPN receives funding from a wide array of corporations and foundations.[viii]

Searle Freedom Trust

Founded by Daniel C. Searle,[ix] the trust is funded by the inherited wealth accumulated by G.D. Searle & Company, a pharmaceutical manufacturer.[x] The trust’s purpose is to “foster research and education on public policy issues that affect individual freedom and economic liberty.”[xi]

Jacquelin Hume Foundation

Founded by Jack Hume, who earned his fortune as co-founder of Basic American Foods Inc.,[xii] the foundation’s mission is to support “free market solutions for education reform.”[xiii]

Walton Family Foundation

Founded by heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune, the foundation has been especially active on the issue of privatizing public education.[xiv]

Friedman Foundation for Education Choice

Founded by economist Milton Friedman, this foundation works to promote school vouchers and privatization.[xv]

Sarah Scaife Foundation

One of several foundations directed by Richard Mellon Scaife, whose “wealth was inherited from the Mellon industrial, oil, aluminum and banking fortune,” that fund a wide array of conservative think tanks. These foundations have also been linked to anti-immigration and anti-Muslim operations.[xvi]

Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation

Founded by Harry Bradley, who was co-founder of the Allen-Bradley Company,[xvii] and who had ties to the John Birch Society and other extreme causes.[xviii]

Roe Foundation

Thomas Roe “accumulated his wealth as chairman of the board of Builder Marts of America Inc.”[xix] and he was founding chairman of the State Policy Network.[xx]

Foundation for Partnerships Trust

Founded by William Edgerly, former CEO of State Street Bank,[xxi] with deep ties to the charter school movement.[xxii]

Gilder Foundation

Founded by Investment banker Richard Gilder,[xxiii] who is past chairman of the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research.[xxiv]

American Legislative Exchange Council

The Freedom Foundation also has deep ties with ALEC.[xxv] ALEC is a national forum where corporate lobbyists and sympathetic legislators sit together to work out model bills that are then introduced in state capitols all across the nation.[xxvi]

ALEC is a multimillion dollar a year operation but, like all of the other entities described above, they are a nonprofit organization and not required to disclose their contributors.[xxvii] However, researchers have identified a multitude of corporations and lobbying interests that are active participants and donors.[xxviii]

Freedom Foundation staff were actively engaged in developing ALEC’s “State Budget Reform Toolkit” that offers a long list of “government efficiency” tools for legislators, including reforming state pensions, delaying step increases, and expanding privatization.[xxix] The Freedom Foundation has also introduced and lobbied on behalf of numerous ALEC bills intended to weaken the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions.[xxx]




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Geez ej, Copying someone else's writing and posting it as your own
kinda puts you down at the Cromwell level of credibility.

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Geez ej, Copying someone else's writing and posting it as your own
kinda puts you down at the Cromwell level of credibility.

#HystericalMoonbatsUnite!

You post shit you don’t read.... that’s how stupid you are!


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Geez ej, Copying someone else's writing and posting it as your own
kinda puts you down at the Cromwell level of credibility.

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So becuase it is copied material that disproves it's content?

Or just gives you an excuse to ignore the inconvenient truths?
 

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So becuase it is copied material that disproves it's content?

Or just gives you an excuse to ignore the inconvenient truths?

All I wanted him to do is try to underfuckingstand who’s behind the union busting tactics and why these billionaires doing everything in their power to kill the labor movement....
Janus vs AFSCME was a perfect example on how these think tankers operate!
But instead of reading, he called me out for copy n paste an article which he wouldn’t even click if I post it! He’s an IDIOT AND A REDHAT!


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It seems that the more stupid a Republican president is the more the right wingers like them...
They liked Bush II but they LOVE Trump.

There is some psychological significance there but it eludes me.
 

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All I wanted him to do is try to underfuckingstand who’s behind the union busting tactics and why these billionaires doing everything in their power to kill the labor movement....
Janus vs AFSCME was a perfect example on how these think tankers operate!
But instead of reading, he called me out for copy n paste an article which he wouldn’t even click if I post it! He’s an IDIOT AND A REDHAT!


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Yep it is all about increasing profit.
Bust the union then import cheap laborers.

They do not care about America only about their profits.
And Trump is one of them.
 

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Yep it is all baout increasing profit.
Bust the union then import cheap laborers.

Effective July/2018 all non-union members are not gonna be deducted agency fees or unions dues if a member opt out....
A department called sppo/staffing DEPT is shutting down in the end of the year, this department is responsible for extra staffing needs, meaning, they go wherever there’s short staff, keep in mind, all sppo staffs are 100% employees (full timers)....

This department will be replace by an inhouse staffing DEPT that would only employ PER DIEMS, TRAVELERS,SEASONAL EMPLOYMENT!

Meaning....
No HEALTH,VISION, DENTAL COVERAGE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY...
No path to {100%}full time
No guaranteed wage increase
No labor representation
No bargaining rights
Nada
Nothing
You’re fuck
Pretty much!




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So becuase it is copied material that disproves it's content?
Or just gives you an excuse to ignore the inconvenient truths?

No. Stop with the BS.
When you post the writings of someone else and pretend they're your own words, by not linking
they're not even worth reading.
 

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Effective July/2018 all non-union members are not gonna be deducted agency fees or unions dues if a member opt out....
A department called sppo/staffing DEPT is shutting down in the end of the year, this department is responsible for extra staffing needs, meaning, they go wherever there’s short staff, keep in mind, all sppo staffs are 100% employees (full timers)....

This department will be replace by an inhouse staffing DEPT that would only employ PER DIEMS, TRAVELERS,SEASONAL EMPLOYMENT!

Meaning....
No HEALTH,VISION, DENTAL COVERAGE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY...
No path to {100%}full time
No guaranteed wage increase
No labor representation
No bargaining rights
Nada
Nothing
You’re fuck
Pretty much!




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This has been the desired US business model since the 80's.

Remember the term coined by the right? A mobile workforce for the new millenium?
Well that is it, Temps, migrants and part timers with little or no benefits.

That is NOT the way to make America great again.
But only fools believe that Trump rhetoric anyway.
 
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Ahh all the out of work coal miners in eastern KY. right wingers and trump supports most are.
Has Trump brought coal back? What has he done in that direction? Tariff wars which will hurt exported coal.
But they love Trump and our Trump supporting governor who is cutting off lots of their medicaid benefits.
And there is no jobs up there for them.
heck only jobs are in health care (which will be cut with the medicaid cuts since over 30% in that area are on medicaid)
And govt jobs.
Otherwise Wal Mart is a desired job source in the area....

But they will likely vote Republican next time too....

Scrap metal is a pretty big business in eastern KY.
However China has put 25% tariffs on imported scrap metal and they were the biggest customer around 60% of the scrap export market.
 

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Effective July/2018 all non-union members are not gonna be deducted agency fees or unions dues if a member opt out....
A department called sppo/staffing DEPT is shutting down in the end of the year, this department is responsible for extra staffing needs, meaning, they go wherever there’s short staff, keep in mind, all sppo staffs are 100% employees (full timers)....

This department will be replace by an inhouse staffing DEPT that would only employ PER DIEMS, TRAVELERS,SEASONAL EMPLOYMENT!

Meaning....
No HEALTH,VISION, DENTAL COVERAGE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY...
No path to {100%}full time
No guaranteed wage increase
No labor representation
No bargaining rights
Nada
Nothing
You’re fuck
Pretty much!
Sounds like one small step toward...

Making health care affordable again!
 

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Making health care affordable again!
I have seen no actions against big pharma...
or doctors taking kickbacks from Pharma, or MRI outfits for sending them customers...
or many of the other mega dollar practices going on in healthcare.


But enjoy your nurse in the hospital who only speaks broken english.
 

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ERRMAHGERD! I'm sure this is a big issue in the union/parasite community
but most of America doesn't really care about your entitlements.

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The rest of America that relies on medic aid? Food stamps, welfare,and public assistance, yeah
That’s your America!
We will keep fighting for fairness!

Stay healthy bro! I don’t wanna pay for you and your family! Good luck


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Ahh all the out of work coal miners in eastern KY. right wingers and trump supports most are.
Has Trump brought coal back? What has he done in that direction? Tariff wars which will hurt exported coal.
But they love Trump and our Trump supporting governor who is cutting off lots of their medicaid benefits.
And there is no jobs up there for them.
heck only jobs are in health care (which will be cut with the medicaid cuts since over 30% in that area are on medicaid)
And govt jobs.
Otherwise Wal Mart is a desired job source in the area....

But they will likely vote Republican next time too....

Scrap metal is a pretty big business in eastern KY.
However China has put 25% tariffs on imported scrap metal and they were the biggest customer around 60% of the scrap export market.

They voted for these
Good luck!


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Bigger fish?
HC costs have bee growing by double digits annually for decades.
And is the biggest single cost of our government aside from Military spending.
It's just not as important as other issues right now...

Treason has been committed and filth is being slowly drained from the swamp.
We are facing an invasion of illegal aliens coming across our border.
 

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They voted for these
Good luck!


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I know. I just personally have trouble understanding how so many can be voting for and supporting those who will work the most against their interests....

My departed FIL was that way. Hard core right wing and always ragging on the ones on welfare, etc.
But if not for SSI, and the VA he would have had nothing.


And I have nothing against organizations helping veterans especially wounded ones but I thought the government swore to do that for their service?
The government offloading their veterans costs to the private sector?
 

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The rest of America that relies on medic aid? Food stamps, welfare,and public assistance, yeah
That’s your America!
We will keep fighting for fairness!

Stay healthy bro! I don’t wanna pay for you and your family! Good luck


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Get a real job vegan boy! :)
 

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Bigger fish?
HC costs have bee growing by double digits annually for decades.
And is the biggest single cost of our government aside from Military spending.
Actually, "health care" is more. FY2017: Medicare $591B, Medicaid $375B, together they add up to $966B while "Defense" was only $590B.

This is actually part of the problem. When someone else is paying, the "consumer" has little incentive to care how much the provider is charging.
 

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Actually, "health care" is more. FY2017: Medicare $591B, Medicaid $375B, together they add up to $966B while "Defense" was only $590B.

This is actually part of the problem. When someone else is paying, the "consumer" has little incentive to care how much the provider is charging.
But actually medicare has money coming in so it is not raw expenditure.

You might want to read the following to better understand medicare.
Note that Bush's Pill bill or Part D is 73% funded by general revenue.
Note that Part a gets virtually no general fund monies. This is the medicare that most retirees get for free. Most pay premiums for the other parts.

And I think you need to look elsewhere for taxpayer monies going to the Part C or privatized part of Medicare.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43122.pdf
 
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