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Hey, brand new here.
I have a question about the mixed nic and vg at heartland vapes. I need to find cheap way of diy and simplest.does this mixed stuff ready to vape and put flavoring in. I vape 6 or 12 mg so if I buy the 12 mg with 100vg is it ready to go? Anybody know about that stuff.so it would cut out the step of adding nic? Any advice needed cant keep paying more money than roll up cigs
 

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If you really want to go the inexpensive route, buying the highest concentration of nic would be cheapest. However, if you don't want to mix it down, then yes. You could buy the 12mg/100vg and vape that as is. Adding flavors will dilute the nic but to a minimal level if you're using high qualify flavor concentrates. If you want to further cut the nic level down, you may also want to get an additional bottle of vg.
 
Ok thanks rocketpuppy.im not comfortable doing the nic part of it yet.buying the premixed nic is still cheaper than where im at now.just wanted to confirm that I understood what I was looking at buying.so this would be pretty thick stuff right.
 

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You could get a liter of 12mg for $27.99 at Heartland. That would probably be your best bet if you don't want to mix nic and vg.
Ok thanks rocketpuppy.im not comfortable doing the nic part of it yet.buying the premixed nic is still cheaper than where im at now.just wanted to confirm that I understood what I was looking at buying.so this would be pretty thick stuff right.
And yes. It would be pretty thick, but depending on your set-up, you can vape it. You could also mix in some distilled water.
 

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Do you want all VG?
 

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Rocketpuppy, I actually took the time to price out high and low nic concentratoins -- and their was no difference in cost of nic i.e. milligram per dollar. Price differences were only due to the cost of the extra vg/pg (at least at WL where I used their pricing for math).

So cost is not really a reason for 100mg. Which is good because I feel noobs should start with lower concentrations until they've built some skills.
 

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Rocketpuppy, I actually took the time to price out high and low nic concentratoins -- and their was no difference in cost of nic i.e. milligram per dollar. Price differences were only due to the cost of the extra vg/pg (at least at WL where I used their pricing for math).

So cost is not really a reason for 100mg. Which is good because I believe noobs should start at lower concentrations till they've built some skills.
Thank you for the info. Is that true as well if you're buying the larger sizes though and getting pg/vg from ED?

And I agree. When I was new, I didn't start with 100mg.
 

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Not sure how much you're buying, but Heartland has free shipping at $75. Let me find you some coupon codes.
 

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This is the only one I can find

diyrecipes
is good for 5% off anything in the diy section and on liters of nic
 
Sweet ill have a liter and a few flavors on the way. any three solid flavors that I could start with just by themselves. I was reading on here before about a caramel something cant remember the name
 

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Sweet ill have a liter and a few flavors on the way. any three solid flavors that I could start with just by themselves. I was reading on here before about a caramel something cant remember the name
Whatcha like?
 

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Thank you for the info. Is that true as well if you're buying the larger sizes though and getting pg/vg from ED?

And I agree. When I was new, I didn't start with 100mg.


Here's a link to the math. Nicotine prices do go down based on the mg's of nic you buying (i.e. volume discounts) but is constant across various concentrations. The difference you're describing is the price difference for vg/pg between two different sources -- not a cost difference for nic based to concentration. But, of course, our world is made of exceptions. :)
 
Well ive been buying juice from itc and I like a couple of them that have chocolate in them so that, thinking caramel and maybe a good strawberry and custard.im still looking at their flavors and what company its made by.
 

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Here's a link to the math. Nicotine prices do go down based on the mg's of nic you buying (i.e. volume discounts) but is constant across various concentrations. The difference you're describing is the price difference for vg/pg between two different sources -- not a cost difference for nic based to concentration. But, of course, our world is made of exceptions. :)
Here's the exception. A liter of 100mg nic at Heartland Vapes is $45, gallon of pg is $28, and a gallon of VG is $30. If it doesn't bother the OP, would you mind costing it out for me? I'm actually really curious about this.
 

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I know where ya coming from man, I used to spend about $40-50 A MONTH on RYO cigs. That's for a bag of tobaccy, box of tubes and about 150 rolling papers.

Folks who had the money to buy cartons of brand-name cigs just can't grok that one. :D

So, even the cheapest e-cig stuff can seem costly to us...but cancer and COPD is far more costly. ;)
 

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Ok thanks rocketpuppy.im not comfortable doing the nic part of it yet.buying the premixed nic is still cheaper than where im at now.just wanted to confirm that I understood what I was looking at buying.so this would be pretty thick stuff right.
The cost comparison of the premix nic liquid is very high. I bought some pg/vg/nic once from TW. When I first began mixing back in the days of yor I was very concerned about using concentrated nic. There was an alarm going round about dodgy nic at the time. So I used menthol instead to give it that kick.

But using con nic isn't hard. 1ml equals one tenth of the con mg. So buy the strength you'd like. If it's 5mg then buy 50mg nic. 1ml in a 10ml bottle will be 5mg strength. I used to use syringes to begin with but I use pipettes as they're much simpler and quick.
 

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Here's the exception. A liter of 100mg nic at Heartland Vapes is $45, gallon of pg is $28, and a gallon of VG is $30. If it doesn't bother the OP, would you mind costing it out for me? I'm actually really curious about this.

Hey RP, just saw this post. Not sure when I'll have chance to do. Formulas should be same using HV's prices. What it showed was nic is cheaper when you purchase more (i.e. more mg of nic) but price differences on concentrations really only varying by cost of the extra vg/pg (at least in case analyzed).
 

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