Maybe it isn’t water soluble. I think to make freebase nicotine they have to use some type of acid to extract the nicotine from tobacco...
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My DIY NET (Naturally Extracted Tobacco): A Noob Adventure
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Maybe it isn’t water soluble. I think to make freebase nicotine they have to use some type of acid to extract the nicotine from tobacco...
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The whole leaf virginia and burleys have been in since around december 24th or so. the cigars and pipe tobaccos sine the 15th/16th of this month. The pipe tobaccos have gotten darker the fastest and the cigars have gotten darker the slowest (just behind the whole leaf virginia and burley).
I plan to leave the leafonly virginia and burley jars sitting for about 6 weeks, the cigars to sit for 3 months or so and the pipes for perhaps 6-8 weeks.
I plan to leave the leafonly virginia and burley jars sitting for about 6 weeks, the cigars to sit for 3 months or so and the pipes for perhaps 6-8 weeks.
I did a 5-ish ml tester from the burley (leafonly) and one from the pipe tobacco (i think it was one of the virginia perique blends). Burley has been sitting for about 3 and a half weeks (almost 4 maybe?), and I literally took half a dropper-full from the mason jar mix (unfiltered), squirted it into a bottle and put 4-5 mls of my normal base with it. After a shake, I tried it and i can tell its going in a verrryy good direction. It's arguably good enough to vape now (I'm almost done with that 5 ml tester already) but I wouldn't stop the process now at all, as it's only 3.5 weeks into a 6 week steep. Its flavor profile is similar to nudenicotine's tobacco extract product. Overall I'm very pleased and I hope the next 2-4 weeks will give even more great air-cured burley tobacco flavor. It vaped just like it smelled when it was whole leaf. I'm very happy about that.
The pipe tobacco is the same, except much much weaker. But I can tell it's going in a delicious direction already after only just a week or so. I prob won't need to do 3 months on the pipe jars...6-8 weeks is good I think, but I will be leaving some jars longer than 6-8 weeks anyway, to see how they do in longer steep times, since I have so many jars (12 total) steeping.
I can say after my testers that I don't see any need for more than coffee filter filtering. At least for me personally. This may change when I go and try to filter the whole jar of one of these though. We'll see.
The pipe tobacco is the same, except much much weaker. But I can tell it's going in a delicious direction already after only just a week or so. I prob won't need to do 3 months on the pipe jars...6-8 weeks is good I think, but I will be leaving some jars longer than 6-8 weeks anyway, to see how they do in longer steep times, since I have so many jars (12 total) steeping.
I can say after my testers that I don't see any need for more than coffee filter filtering. At least for me personally. This may change when I go and try to filter the whole jar of one of these though. We'll see.
Thanks for the update and sharing your process info.
Is there a VU discount code for naturally extracted tobacco ? Thought I saw one somewhere last year. They are a bit pricey.
Any other sources or recommendations to buy a few extracts to try?
Is there a VU discount code for naturally extracted tobacco ? Thought I saw one somewhere last year. They are a bit pricey.
Any other sources or recommendations to buy a few extracts to try?
My pleasure. I always like seeing someone document their first try at something Im thinking of trying myself.
I know there's a couple that associate with VU here, unfortunately I dont know which ones exactly. I know stixxmixx has a discount but you will need to google for it, and the guy who does real-tobacco-extract.com comes here and his code used to be VU20
There are many others who I dont know if they have codes.
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Yes, his 'confederate' NET kept me going for a while, very good, especially mixed at 20+ percent of the mix
Ive been taking little 1 mil bits of extract from various jars constantly, since I mentioned that I started doing it a couple weeks ago (or whenever it was). I literally stick my dropper into the jar with backie still in it, suck a mil out, then squirt it into a bottle with ~3-5 mls base. My thoughts thus far on the ones I've tried:
- Burley, from leafonly: now is at around 5 weeks. Tastes great, like it smells. Looking forward to trying it at 6, then 8 weeks.
- Virginia (R), which leafonly tells me means 'Robust,' tasted at 3 weeks, then at 4 weeks. Strong grassy notes, slightly more standard tobacco notes came in on the week 4 test, but still very grassy.
- Stokkebye Luxury 402, which is a virginia blend: tested at ~3 weeks: Very nice flavor...needs more steeping but the direction it's going is fantastic and I vaped it all in a day or 2.
- Stokkebye Luxury 403, which is a virginia/perique blend: tested at ~3 weeks, today actually...and its amaaazzzing. I love virginia/perique NET blends, and this is already amazing. I can't wait to see how it goes after 5, 6, 8 weeks.
- Lane 1Q Pipe Tobacco: tasted at ~3 weeks in today...tastes extremely "pipe-ey" if that makes sense. It isnt a flavor profile im into , but im still steeping it as Ive learned tastes can change and I may love it one day. The flavor is pretty spot on to the smell though.
- Mix of 4 different cigars in one jar: Tested at ~2 weeks -- little taste so far when I tried this at 2 weeks. Looks like it will need 2-3 months for sure.
These showed up today. Ordered January 12th.
Slipped through customs untaxed
Also labelled as only for sale in the USA
JuicyLucy
My name is Lucy and I am a squonkaholic
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These showed up today. Ordered January 12th.
Slipped through customs untaxed
Also labelled as only for sale in the USA
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Ive found info about the virginia extract's grassy/hay heavy flavor, after discussing it with someone who had the same problem, on facebook. He said it's because the leaves needed to be dried first. This is in regards to the leafonly leaves, not the pipe tobacco or cigars, which may or may not benefit from drying first -- I don't know. But the leaves need it apparently. And this makes sense, because I first did the maceration and jarring of the virginia leaves and left the burley for a few weeks. Maybe this helped dry out (some) the burley, because it tastes like it smells instead of being so grass-heavy.
So, this is very good..this means I will need to get another 1/4 lb sample of virginia...this time if it's in stock I'm getting regular virginia, and some canadian virginia, plus the virginia (R) -- the "R" meaning "robust."
In other news, I constantly siphon off a mill of various jars to make little 4-5 mill testers. Thats almost exclusively what Ive been vaping for the past week or two. Everything progressing very nicely!
So, this is very good..this means I will need to get another 1/4 lb sample of virginia...this time if it's in stock I'm getting regular virginia, and some canadian virginia, plus the virginia (R) -- the "R" meaning "robust."
In other news, I constantly siphon off a mill of various jars to make little 4-5 mill testers. Thats almost exclusively what Ive been vaping for the past week or two. Everything progressing very nicely!
And, congrats on the tobacco getting through!These showed up today. Ordered January 12th.
Slipped through customs untaxed
Also labelled as only for sale in the USA
2 months inFinally got around to buying PG.
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-tobacco/cornell-diehl/Black-Cavendish/product_id/135024/bulk
The black Cavendish smells kinda not great. Very dirty, ashy.
But, it should make a good mixer, to liven up lighter Virginia etc
Finally at least got to a tobacco shop and grabbed a $3 pouch of Bugler Turkish American 
and a week in I pulled 4ml to mix 10ml with 1 drop of Cap SS to take the acidic taste out.
Surprisingly good. I suppose after a month I may only need 10 or 20 % and will mix 1 drop SS per 20ml next time. Not overly sweet but I think in between would be better.
Next up is an online order from a tobacco place. Super excited.
and a week in I pulled 4ml to mix 10ml with 1 drop of Cap SS to take the acidic taste out.Surprisingly good. I suppose after a month I may only need 10 or 20 % and will mix 1 drop SS per 20ml next time. Not overly sweet but I think in between would be better.
Next up is an online order from a tobacco place. Super excited.
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Im so glad the tobacco ejuice love i still going strong. Sorry for the lack of updates recently. Heres where I'm at.
Ive been doing things a LOT less "formally" than most other NET makers. I will literally suck out some extract from the jar (with the tobacco still in the jar) and mix it with my base juice, and shake. I wait about an hour and any sediment that came with the extract settles to the bottom. Then I drip on my RDAs with a dropper from my mix bottle.
It dirties up relatively quickly the cotton, but the taste is absolutely phenomenal. And I dont mind changing cotton.
My ultimate favorite flavor has been from the virginia/perique blends
Ive been doing things a LOT less "formally" than most other NET makers. I will literally suck out some extract from the jar (with the tobacco still in the jar) and mix it with my base juice, and shake. I wait about an hour and any sediment that came with the extract settles to the bottom. Then I drip on my RDAs with a dropper from my mix bottle.
It dirties up relatively quickly the cotton, but the taste is absolutely phenomenal. And I dont mind changing cotton.
My ultimate favorite flavor has been from the virginia/perique blends
Noice. I'm definitely gonna get into blending NETs this winter. I love tobaccos but most of the commercial flavours are too sweet.Im so glad the tobacco ejuice love i still going strong. Sorry for the lack of updates recently. Heres where I'm at.
Ive been doing things a LOT less "formally" than most other NET makers. I will literally suck out some extract from the jar (with the tobacco still in the jar) and mix it with my base juice, and shake. I wait about an hour and any sediment that came with the extract settles to the bottom. Then I drip on my RDAs with a dropper from my mix bottle.
It dirties up relatively quickly the cotton, but the taste is absolutely phenomenal. And I dont mind changing cotton.
My ultimate favorite flavor has been from the virginia/perique blends
What's the ratio of sweetener you usually use in your NETs?
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