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I got this from a Quora post:
I do not yet have research funding for this, but while 35 seizures in ten years after vaping have occurred, I believe that more than double that number, over SEVENTY, have occurred after people ate lunch. Lunches are thus something that should clearly be avoided until more research is done.{*}
- MJM, (conflicting interest: I do occasionally eat lunch.) (Currently seeking a ten million dollar grant for further research. Small bills only please.)
{*} You may feel that the above is a bit flippant. It’s meant to be. Why? Simple: it reflects the level of the reports that spurred the question. “X follows Y” does NOTmean “X causes Y” in any normal piece of scientific or health research. And yet that seems to be the main “substance” behind this particular charge that has been picked up and hyped by Antismokers {**} as a way to build and stoke fears and paranoia about the vaping that has so many of them deeply unhappy. It’s likely quite true that in all or in almost all of the “35 instances” cited that there really was no more connection between the two things (vaping or lunch) and someone having a seizure (although I could see the possibility that thoroughly over-gorging oneself with food, or going through some weird breathing pattern with super-intense vaping, or even jumping up and down a while singing the National Anthem at the top of one’s lungs could conceivably cause some sort of seizure — or at least vomiting.)
Citing vaping as a cause of something as scary as a seizure, particularly if the focus in on “children” under age 25 by the newly preferred definition of the word, is simply part of Antismokers’ larger “Drag Out The Children” policy approach… a despicable abuse of our love protective instincts for our young.
My {**} up above relates directly to that last paragraph: Antivapers, almost universally, ARE Antismokers. They’re just dressed up in new costumes, but are using the same strategies and types of lies that have enabled them to institute smoking bans in dozens of countries around the world. See Recognising Anti-Smoking Types -- Sott.net for a bare-bones but still informative summary of the various types of people with various motivations, drives, and problems, that make up the antismoking movement today — and think about how antivaping activism relates to each one. In particular, think about the last category, “The Greedy,” and consider how many articles you’ve been seeing about studies and concerns over “The Teen Vaping Epidemic” — articles that somehow almost always neglect to mention the concomitant reduction in Teen SMOKING!
After all… if teen smoking were going down for reasons that had nothing to do with all the millions being given to the antismoking organizations and researchers… well, that money stream might just start drying up on them, eh?
Think about that, and then think about how much credence you want to give to paid-press-release “news stories” about teens suffering from seizures “after vaping.”
I do not yet have research funding for this, but while 35 seizures in ten years after vaping have occurred, I believe that more than double that number, over SEVENTY, have occurred after people ate lunch. Lunches are thus something that should clearly be avoided until more research is done.{*}
- MJM, (conflicting interest: I do occasionally eat lunch.) (Currently seeking a ten million dollar grant for further research. Small bills only please.)
{*} You may feel that the above is a bit flippant. It’s meant to be. Why? Simple: it reflects the level of the reports that spurred the question. “X follows Y” does NOTmean “X causes Y” in any normal piece of scientific or health research. And yet that seems to be the main “substance” behind this particular charge that has been picked up and hyped by Antismokers {**} as a way to build and stoke fears and paranoia about the vaping that has so many of them deeply unhappy. It’s likely quite true that in all or in almost all of the “35 instances” cited that there really was no more connection between the two things (vaping or lunch) and someone having a seizure (although I could see the possibility that thoroughly over-gorging oneself with food, or going through some weird breathing pattern with super-intense vaping, or even jumping up and down a while singing the National Anthem at the top of one’s lungs could conceivably cause some sort of seizure — or at least vomiting.)
Citing vaping as a cause of something as scary as a seizure, particularly if the focus in on “children” under age 25 by the newly preferred definition of the word, is simply part of Antismokers’ larger “Drag Out The Children” policy approach… a despicable abuse of our love protective instincts for our young.
My {**} up above relates directly to that last paragraph: Antivapers, almost universally, ARE Antismokers. They’re just dressed up in new costumes, but are using the same strategies and types of lies that have enabled them to institute smoking bans in dozens of countries around the world. See Recognising Anti-Smoking Types -- Sott.net for a bare-bones but still informative summary of the various types of people with various motivations, drives, and problems, that make up the antismoking movement today — and think about how antivaping activism relates to each one. In particular, think about the last category, “The Greedy,” and consider how many articles you’ve been seeing about studies and concerns over “The Teen Vaping Epidemic” — articles that somehow almost always neglect to mention the concomitant reduction in Teen SMOKING!
After all… if teen smoking were going down for reasons that had nothing to do with all the millions being given to the antismoking organizations and researchers… well, that money stream might just start drying up on them, eh?
Think about that, and then think about how much credence you want to give to paid-press-release “news stories” about teens suffering from seizures “after vaping.”
