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I know it's a easy jab but I think it has to do with a lot of it.. but do you think that lays the problem where priests do shit to kids?...They join the priesthood hoping a life style like that will keep them at bay of their sick thoughts but they do crumble in the end...I mean 17.000 what we know of since the 60's(And that's not including members of the flock doing sick shit to kids)..And the worst part is the church tries to cover it up by moving that priest to a different location or pays the victims off (shush money)..I know this happens everywhere but these are men of the cloth..As I said it's a easy jab but one that is very serious
It is easy because of the sheer size of the Catholic Church....and yes, there have been many instances of coverups and safe havening. Fortunately Pope Francis is all too aware, and is taking a proactive stand regarding this atrocities. What does encourage me to believe that most people are ignorant is the fact that this is not a Catholic issue exclusively....there are MORE instances yet to be brought to light of protestant clergy doing the very same sick things....but again, there is no centralisation of the various protestant denoms....so since there is no place to put the blame but the individual...it does not make the news. But since there is the Vatican, and global Archdiocese....we make for better news stories. To use your words...only an idiot would believe that this is restricted to the Catholic faith.
 

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NO JOKE!!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BRAIN DEAD BASEMENT DWELLING MOMAS BOYS PONTIFICATING ON HOW THEY JUDGE A PERSONS MOTIVES AND ACTIONS. GET OFF YOUR DEAD ASS PUT A UNIFORM ON AND EARN YOUR KEEP. THE SPACE YOU USE UP WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS A RESTING PLACE FOR A PILE OF SHIT!!!!
 

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NO JOKE!!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BRAIN DEAD BASEMENT DWELLING MOMAS BOYS PONTIFICATING ON HOW THEY JUDGE A PERSONS MOTIVES AND ACTIONS. GET OFF YOUR DEAD ASS PUT A UNIFORM ON AND EARN YOUR KEEP. THE SPACE YOU USE UP WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS A RESTING PLACE FOR A PILE OF SHIT!!!!
Relevance in an Atheist thread will be revealed in ............7.............6............5............4...........3...........2................
 

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NO JOKE!!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BRAIN DEAD BASEMENT DWELLING MOMAS BOYS PONTIFICATING ON HOW THEY JUDGE A PERSONS MOTIVES AND ACTIONS. GET OFF YOUR DEAD ASS PUT A UNIFORM ON AND EARN YOUR KEEP. THE SPACE YOU USE UP WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS A RESTING PLACE FOR A PILE OF SHIT!!!!
Make a thread about it...Listen dude... there are very few guides of this thread in fact only one main one and that is... NO INDIVIDUAL BASHING!!...I have to ask but are you a Christian by any chance?...I just looked at your posts and you seem very right wing
 

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A RELIGION BASED ON SELF BREEDS IGNORANCE AND GRANDIOSITY . POLITICIANS ARE AN EXAMPLE
 

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A RELIGION BASED ON SELF BREEDS IGNORANCE AND GRANDIOSITY . POLITICIANS ARE AN EXAMPLE
Politics is a religion? Who/What is their deity? What is their FAITH based dogmatic principles? Or are you just passing gas? Actually, the question is the answer....this is a respectable thread, Respect it or move on.
 

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A RELIGION BASED ON SELF BREEDS IGNORANCE AND GRANDIOSITY . POLITICIANS ARE AN EXAMPLE
I think your caps are stuck on:rolleyes:
A RELIGION BASED ON SELF BREEDS IGNORANCE AND GRANDIOSITY . POLITICIANS ARE AN EXAMPLE
Most politicians say they are religious but we know about 28 of them in congress are closet atheists
 

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Politics is a religion? Who/What is their deity? What is their FAITH based dogmatic principles? Or are you just passing gas? Actually, the question is the answer....this is a respectable thread, Respect it or move on.
Thank you...I know sometimes you take things the wrong way but like I said in that PM some things I say might not come through as clear as I might like it too due to the Dyslexia
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Make a thread about it...Listen dude... there are very few guides of this thread in fact only one main one and that is... NO INDIVIDUAL BASHING!!...I have to ask but are you a Christian by any chance?...I just looked at your posts and you seem very right wing
Celtic did bash... Me. About my service. He is simply replying to it... I didnt really bother as he was trolling.
 

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Very Cool pic!... Welcome to the thread and hope you come back:)...I hope you read what was said before my post and didn't take mine out of context...I was saying I don't think us " Atheist Leftie Wackos" would have done such a thing to a bird or animal like that...Letting it go in a enclosed building And shouting "USA" and making such a noise at the poor thing and scaring the shit out of it and then laughing at it crashing in a window while it was trying to get away from the idiots...And before everyone jumps on me for saying "idiots"...I think the people who organized that advent and the people who were shouting are fucking idiots to do such a thing to a creature like that!!...If you are going to do something like that...DO IT OUTSIDE!!
BTW... the reason I'm so pissed off about this is...The Eagle is my favorite animal

Thanks for the welcome! And don't worry, the context was totally clear. I just love that new appellation the dude who posted before you granted me. I wear all parts of that label proudly, in fact. But, good gravy, did you actually think that Google stock image was ME?! Looks like she could be one of Romney's granddaughters, I think - you know, maybe how she kills time between dressage competitions, or something.

I tend to stick to music threads, but I'll read back in this one during those pesky moments when I'm feeling less frivolous, maybe wade back in with my Leftie Los Angeles Wacko POV.

Oh, for what it's worth, the dog is my favorite animal. Pretty Wacko, right? As birds go, I do find magpies a good bit more interesting than eagles. Glad there's no House Committee on Un-American Activities to which one of my fellow vapers might report me for that preference!
 

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Thanks for the welcome! And don't worry, the context was totally clear. I just love that new appellation the dude who posted before you granted me. I wear all parts of that label proudly, in fact. But, good gravy, did you actually think that Google stock image was ME?! Looks like she could be one of Romney's granddaughters, I think - you know, maybe how she kills time between dressage competitions, or something.

I tend to stick to music threads, but I'll read back in this one during those pesky moments when I'm feeling less frivolous, maybe wade back in with my Leftie Los Angeles Wacko POV.

Oh, for what it's worth, the dog is my favorite animal. Pretty Wacko, right? As birds go, I do find magpies a good bit more interesting than eagles. Glad there's no House Committee on Un-American Activities to which one of my fellow vapers might report me for that preference!
The UCLA Wacko thing was just an example of what a Right Wing Wacko would say.. Please dont take it to heart.. I hate everyone equally :)
 

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On science:

I am among those who think that science has great beauty. A scientist in his laboratory is not only a technician: he is also a child placed before natural phenomena which impress him like a fairy tale. We should not allow it to be believed that all scientific progress can be reduced to mechanisms, machines, gearings, even though such machinery has its own beauty. — Marie Curie

“We inhabit a universe where atoms are made in the centers of stars; where each second a thousand suns are born; where life is sparked by sunlight and lightning in the airs and waters of youthful planets; where the raw material for biological evolution is sometimes made by the explosion of a star halfway across the Milky Way; where a thing as beautiful as a galaxy is formed a hundred billion times - a Cosmos of quasars and quarks, snowflakes and fireflies, where there may be black holes and other universe and extraterrestrial civilizations whose radio messages are at this moment reaching the Earth. How pallid by comparison are the pretensions of superstition and pseudoscience; how important it is for us to pursue and understand science, that characteristically human endeavor. ” ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

“We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.” ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

All good. :) Just in case this was a reply to my post before it, I assure you that the sciences as such need no defense or advocacy in my book, nor in Merleau-Ponty's or Heidegger's. The point is to guard against regarding the scientific word as the final word on all things.
 

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I have to ask... I have noticed you bring up philosophy quite a few times so I'm guessing you have taken it in a class or just Interested in it but do you listen to Stefan Molyneux at all or know of him?..I have sub to his YT channel and when I time or in the mood listen to him

No, not familiar with him. I checked a few minutes of his YT talk on racism and unfortunately caught him praising Ann Coulter. :eek: Bad timing. Political philosophy seems to be his thing. Do you recommend a specific talk?
 

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I restate that I am Catholic only in that when referring to Christians....we are different in that we have not taken it upon ourselves to throw out the Gospel as a continuing way of life. Protestants do not worship God as much as the presiding pastor.....this is why they have no centralisation....it removes the responsibility to be responsible to.......well......pretty much anything.

What? Guess I caught you in an anti-Protestant moment, which has nothing to do with my reply to your post. :confused:
 

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NO JOKE!!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BRAIN DEAD BASEMENT DWELLING MOMAS BOYS PONTIFICATING ON HOW THEY JUDGE A PERSONS MOTIVES AND ACTIONS. GET OFF YOUR DEAD ASS PUT A UNIFORM ON AND EARN YOUR KEEP. THE SPACE YOU USE UP WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS A RESTING PLACE FOR A PILE OF SHIT!!!!

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Thanks for the welcome! And don't worry, the context was totally clear. I just love that new appellation the dude who posted before you granted me. I wear all parts of that label proudly, in fact. But, good gravy, did you actually think that Google stock image was ME?! Looks like she could be one of Romney's granddaughters, I think - you know, maybe how she kills time between dressage competitions, or something.

I tend to stick to music threads, but I'll read back in this one during those pesky moments when I'm feeling less frivolous, maybe wade back in with my Leftie Los Angeles Wacko POV.

Oh, for what it's worth, the dog is my favorite animal. Pretty Wacko, right? As birds go, I do find magpies a good bit more interesting than eagles. Glad there's no House Committee on Un-American Activities to which one of my fellow vapers might report me for that preference!

I knew it wasn't you. ;) You gave up eagle hunting when you left the old country to study in America.

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The UCLA Wacko thing was just an example of what a Right Wing Wacko would say....

Yeah, I got that, too. Just thought I'd check into the thread (in which I'm now all caught up) by snatching up that - legitimately - %100 accurate title (lifelong liberal, ten years of great courses at the UC two miles down the road, always pretty wacko in various regards, but officially so for these last six years tangoing with clinical depression) and having a bit of fun while at it. Ash mentioned coming out as an atheist around here. That ain't nothing - how about being a proud self-avowed liberal up in this particular joint? Talk about minority status. (I read the State of the Union thread before this one, and wowza!) But that's a whole 'nother topic, and not a thread I'm up to starting any time soon...
 

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Celtic did bash... Me. About my service. He is simply replying to it... I didnt really bother as he was trolling.
Grow the fuck up already and put your big boy pants on.
 
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Thanks for the welcome! And don't worry, the context was totally clear. I just love that new appellation the dude who posted before you granted me. I wear all parts of that label proudly, in fact. But, good gravy, did you actually think that Google stock image was ME?! Looks like she could be one of Romney's granddaughters, I think - you know, maybe how she kills time between dressage competitions, or something.

I tend to stick to music threads, but I'll read back in this one during those pesky moments when I'm feeling less frivolous, maybe wade back in with my Leftie Los Angeles Wacko POV.

Oh, for what it's worth, the dog is my favorite animal. Pretty Wacko, right? As birds go, I do find magpies a good bit more interesting than eagles. Glad there's no House Committee on Un-American Activities to which one of my fellow vapers might report me for that preference!
LOL...yes I thought that was you in that pic and I think a few of us did(Not going to mention TheWestPole being one of them:rolleyes::D) And I'll be honest here..I was thinking you had beautifully eyes :) ... As to favorite animal I was more referring to wild ones..I also love dogs :)... To the magpies I have never seen one in the US but they are all over the place in the UK... When I was a kid I remember Some people go looking for their nests due to the birds well know trate that they collect shiny objects and apparently you can find jewelry in the nests but I think that got debunked not so long ago...also to the "House Committee on Un-American Activities"... I was just saying this to some people I met the other day who have the thoughts and views as myself ( that's really rare where I live) "I'm sure I'm red flaged to the NSA for saying things I believe and know that's true"..I have said this a few time here...I'm not Anti- American I'm just Anti- Ignorance...And I have every right to be...It just so happens I see a lot of it here but I know it's world wide but I have very good reasons why I see more here...The U.S. ranks 2nd in ignorance ....If anyone is interested here are lists of where the US ranks in many things in the world...Some of it might shock you:eek:
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/
 
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No, not familiar with him. I checked a few minutes of his YT talk on racism and unfortunately caught him praising Ann Coulter. :eek: Bad timing. Political philosophy seems to be his thing. Do you recommend a specific talk?
Yeah I heard that one with Ann Coulter:oops:..I don't have any I can recommend off the top of my head right now..It's hit of miss with him...Again I only play him if I have the time or in the mood...Trust me I don't agree with everything he says "praising Ann Coulter" being one of them :) But I know he has a lot of followers in the "Philosophy" YT and POD cast world
 
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What? Guess I caught you in an anti-Protestant moment, which has nothing to do with my reply to your post. :confused:
Must have mis-read something....this tends to happen lol. I am not anti-anything regarding religion. They all have the same goal.....but some (and no religion is exempt) have a rather convoluted process of getting there.
 

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Must have mis-read something....this tends to happen lol. I am not anti-anything regarding religion. They all have the same goal.....but some (and no religion is exempt) have a rather convoluted process of getting there.
I think I'm the king of being "mis-read":oops:;):D
 

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So you keep saying..
and will keeps saying until it's clear...I will question ideologies that have no merit or proven facts behind them but again I'm not bashing or nor do I want anyone here to do that to individuals here...What WKR did here was not called for or wanted and had no place in this thread...It seems like you are taking this very personally...Trust me... this thread has no intent to go after or bash any individual here..Add edit...Nor is this a thread that is generalizing groups but like I said to Fran a few times I'm just pointing out a few aspects of some groups
 
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and will keeps saying until it's clear...I will question ideologies that have no merit or proven facts behind them but again I'm not bashing or nor do I want anyone here to do that to individuals here...What WKR did here was not called for or wanted and had no place in this thread...It seems like you are taking this very personally...Trust me... this thread has no intent to go after or bash any individual here
?? It wasnt you that I was questioning.. Yes WKR went overboard. That I agree.. I was talking about the apparent lack of calling out Celtic for his BS bashing way back at the beginning of the thread. I tried to deflect it, but, just a few posts up... well, 'He's baaaack!' :)
 

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?? It wasnt you that I was questioning.. Yes WKR went overboard. That I agree.. I was talking about the apparent lack of calling out Celtic for his BS bashing way back at the beginning of the thread. I tried to deflect it, but, just a few posts up... well, 'He's baaaack!' :)
Sorry I didn't get that or missed it...I'll have to go back and have a look or if you can save me some time and link it so I'll know exactly what you're talking about...I'm more concerned with things that have substance...Add edit... never mind I see it :(
 

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Grow the fuck up already and put your big boy pants on.
Hey can we keep this civil?...I don't know what went on in another thread and I don't really care but this thread isn't about petty shit,name calling..ect... your welcome here but please read the first post so you'll get a idea what this thread is all about..TIA
 

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Now the dust has settled down a bit now... Did anyone watch that first Vid in whole in the OP and if so...what did you think of the facts?...I mean that's some coincidence shown there
 
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