Yes you are.
Q: Why do people hate atheists?
A: Because they think this is funny:
Q: What do you call an intelligent American?
A: Atheist.
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Yes you are.
Q: Why do people hate atheists?
A: Because they think this is funny:
Q: What do you call an intelligent American?
A: Atheist.
I knew the Civil War part and always thought it was put on Paper in the late 50's...I'll have a look later and If I'm wrong I apologize now for my mistakeReally? Not on the dollar bill until the 1950s?
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Well, one path to atheism is reading the bible and fact-checking the claims. And a popular path at that.
Easily verifiable:
Coins: 1864 and 1865
Paper money: 1957
http://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages/in-god-we-trust.aspx
The point about the founding fathers still stands.
Coins: 1864 and 1865
Paper money: 1957
http://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages/in-god-we-trust.aspx
The point about the founding fathers still stands.
And readily dismissed for similar reasons.
Oh for fucks sake I'm a Pervert and Molester now after the guy brought up the Nazis... I guess he didn't know his History "After the Nazis came to power in Germany, they signed an agreement (Concordat) with the Catholic Church whereby the Vatican would accept the Nazi government in return for the Nazis not interfering with the Catholic Church. In 1939 Eugenio Pacelli was elected Pope Pius XII"
after the guy brought up the Nazis... I guess he didn't know his History "After the Nazis came to power in Germany, they signed an agreement (Concordat) with the Catholic Church whereby the Vatican would accept the Nazi government in return for the Nazis not interfering with the Catholic Church. In 1939 Eugenio Pacelli was elected Pope Pius XII"
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I was going to look that up later..Thank you Bob for the footwork...I thought I was going a bit mad...I'm pretty good with facts and I really thought 1957 was the first time it was on paper
Well that is just asinine.Oh for fucks sake I'm a Pervert and Molester now
That's pretty much what I did...Well, one path to atheism is reading the bible and fact-checking the claims. And a popular path at that.
That's what a lot of the religious folk think...Trust me I am on the other side.. it also scares them not to question the "Good Book"...This guy has told his kid and his grandkids this... think how many others think that and passed that long to kids scaring the shit out of them
I would disagree there. There can be enough preserved to recover DNA, for example, but that isn't to say that nothing has changed. You can still tell the difference between a mummy and a recently deceased person even with a superficial observation.
Yeah, don't mouth off to your parents or else ...
And there's that whole hell thing.
Scaring kids about Hell is barbaric and Child/Mental AbuseYeah, don't mouth off to your parents or else ...
And there's that whole hell thing.
Well, one path to atheism is reading the bible and fact-checking the claims. And a popular path at that.
If I ever found myself reading the Old Testament and checking facts, at some point I would stop myself, realizing I was falling into the same trap as the biblical literalist. I would recognize that I was reading the book as an alien might read it, with no sense of the what sort of meanings I was dealing with, and lacking that sense, was taking everything literally. This is the problem I have with biblical literalists as such. They seem to be reading the Bible as an alien would read it, with little sense of what sort of thing they are reading nor what sort of meanings they are dealing with.
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I'm going to look into this a bit more and see if these fact are true but I found this very interesting and if the facts differ from this Video I will correct it
'Atheist' Nations Are More Peaceful
'Atheist' Nations Are More Peaceful
Pretty much a true or false question.I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
The bad part about a "after life" is people think there is a better life after this...That's a big gamble on the fact's given...I think people should make the best of what we have nowI'm not sure what you are getting at here.
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Yes I would have..Was waiting for this
I don't think ""Leftie UCLA Wacko's" would have done something like that and I can't find anything even close... The other thing is... I would have posted it if was any other Religion...My question to you is...If that Video was another Religion (Muslim, jew..Ect would you have been all over it like you have with this one?
I would also 'have been all over it' if this was posted to show lefty's as 'wackos' ..
My point being, as the Friar said, anything can be taken out of context and twisted to suit what you think. In this case, a video of an obviously confused Eagle 'trying to escape Christians'. How about 'just a confused eagle' and leave the rest of the crap out of it?
If you havent seen this type of thing before, its prolly because someone didnt make a big deal out of 'cause it didnt happen in a 'Christian Church'. However, I have this type of thing several times before... None of them were in a Church
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That guy is an idiot and does not speak for me..Oh for fucks sake I'm a Pervert and Molester now
This thread cracks me up. If I had not started mine....this would not exist LOL. So sad that some ego's find that necessary. I cant tell you how many times I have known people and had no idea that they were atheists until the topic of God comes up.....then it's like an unleashed fart. atheism is not a belief...dogma....way of life.....as much as it is merely a reaction. It has a right to exist, and it does not bother me whatsoever.....it just flummoxes me, trying to understand it's purpose. Forgive me.
Well, so much for the religion of love and compassion ...
I didn't realize you were responsible for the existence of this thread. Thank you, thread-giver. Verily, no good deed goes unpunished.
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Spirituality, however defined by the individual, is clearly a grey area among self-identified atheists and agnostics. These Pew Research surveys show just how big that area is. I'm very curious about what's going on in there. Clearly it's not just a matter of agnostics hedging their bets.
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise-religion/#belief-in-god
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise-religion/#belief-in-god
But it's religion that's behind it
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This Thread isn't meant to bash or offend Religions, Religious People or People who believe in the Supernatural,Astrology or superstitions and other things that can't be proven so please show respect to other who do believe in them /QUOTE]
Well that just sucks the fun right out of this post now doesn't it?
I'll keep my religious comments at bay..
Wow you think of yourself that much?...I have stated this before...I have started atheists threads on ECF way before I joined here... your not that special for me to start one here
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No.. its him and his skewed perception behind it.
I will NOT have you imply that Ash makes generalisations!!!!!!!
Yes I am. And I think HIGHLY of myself...I am, after all....a creation of God, and as such, am a masterpiece! I am even signed and numbered!Wow you think of yourself that much?...I have stated this before...I have started atheists threads on ECF way before I joined here... your not that special for me to start one here
Just like the
Westboro Baptist Church?...I'm just showing how fucking whacked out a lot of religious folk are and how ignorance is rampant ( In religion in general)
He wasn't talking about me...He was talking about the ignorant bigot in the video who thinks all atheists have no morals ...I don't have to have A God to scare me into having morals or knowing whats right and wrong...Unlike a lot of hypocritical religious folk
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Whats the tatt say? I'm a bit rusty on my HebrewYes I am. And I think HIGHLY of myself...I am, after all....a creation of God, and as such, am a masterpiece! I am even signed and numbered!
...Anyway this thread has absolutely NO reflection on you as a person or your thread...Like I stated in reply to your PM
Three-parent babies is not 'playing God', says Cameron as MPs vote to legalise IVF technique in Britain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tain-country-world-approve-IVF-technique.html
Meanwhile, 82 percent of TODAY viewers surveyed say three-parent babies shouldn’t be allowed
http://www.today.com/health/british-parliament-approves-3-parent-baby-bill-during-ivf-2D80473734
I May add the UK isn't really a religious county like the US...I'm sure @franciscan will agree with me with that Fact
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tain-country-world-approve-IVF-technique.html
Meanwhile, 82 percent of TODAY viewers surveyed say three-parent babies shouldn’t be allowed
http://www.today.com/health/british-parliament-approves-3-parent-baby-bill-during-ivf-2D80473734
I May add the UK isn't really a religious county like the US...I'm sure @franciscan will agree with me with that Fact
I agree with you completely....TOO many "religious" make it up to suit their agendas and to assuage their own guilt feelings. In true Faith, there is no room for personal "style"....interpretations are quite necessary in order to bring Gospel to contemporary life...but the letter and intent is NOT to be lost in the process. I am personally ashamed in what has happened to not only religion, but the the Catholic Church over the centuries. I preach Faith, not religion....I am at odds somewhat with the RCC on this, but that is their hangup, not mine.Just like the
Westboro Baptist Church?...I'm just showing how fucking whacked out a lot of religious folk are and how ignorance is rampant ( In religion in general)
He wasn't talking about me...He was talking about the ignorant bigot in the video who thinks all atheists have no morals ...I don't have to have A God to scare me into having morals or knowing whats right and wrong...Unlike a lot of hypocritical religious folk
Adonai Elohim (Lord God). And I know that Ash, you are a good person and that is why I come in here!Whats the tatt say? I'm a bit rusty on my Hebrew
. The true mark of considerate friendship is in our ability to disagree on matters, but still appreciate each other as people.One thing that I tend to mention in my work...is that morality is not a Christian tenet, but was outlined by Aristotle. One does not need religion, or even faith in order to appreciate the intrinsic need for justice. Justice was, and to a much lesser extent, IS mandated by the mores of society. I will sadly confess that honour is a value that seems to be less and less a part of the human moral fabric in today's day and age.Just like the
Westboro Baptist Church?...I'm just showing how fucking whacked out a lot of religious folk are and how ignorance is rampant ( In religion in general)
He wasn't talking about me...He was talking about the ignorant bigot in the video who thinks all atheists have no morals ...I don't have to have A God to scare me into having morals or knowing whats right and wrong...Unlike a lot of hypocritical religious folk
Thank you and I appreciate it...This thread isn't about hate but I'm sure a lot of people have taken it that way Like I have said before this thread just isn't about religion but it's about other hot topics too...Also A place where subjects with substance can be talked about(I just wanted a thread where that can be done) and not small talk e.g..It's snowing here, My cat just had kittens...ect ...I know by some of the posts that people have taken this thread the wrong way...I love to debate and will respect other views ..I will post things and I hope others do too with facts behind them and if them facts can be debunked so be it...I just like being thought provoking and getting down to the truth of things...I'm also a fighter of injusticesAdonai Elohim (Lord God). And I know that Ash, you are a good person and that is why I come in here!
Oh and a place where fellow Atheists know they are not alone here...Coming out as a Atheist reminds me of Gay people coming out...You never know how people are going to take it or react
My feelings on that are: If you are gay, just shut up and be gay. I have yet to see a heterosexual pride day...or parade, or picnic. Same thing is you are black or a jew....just be one. As soon as we declare ourselves "special"...we separate ourselves from the mainstream, and subsequently define ourselves as different...and will be treated as such. It is said that "All men are created equal"....this is not a philosophy that is exclusive to faith or secular belief...it is just SO. I meet a person, and through discourse and time, I determine that this is a pleasant person to be around and exchange ideas. I see this as a person...and no different than myself...not unlike how most children view each other. All things are pleasantly equal, and assuming that in the course of that relationship there is a just and equitable give and take...there is peace. When a person declares that they are gay , or an atheist, or whathaveyou....then it is not uncommon for the other to stop considering them a "person"...but now a "different person". Subsequently the treatment becomes different, and what began as unity, has now ventured into a tribal division. This is the fundamental basis of faith....to judge NOT the person...but the actions of that person. When a man tells me that he is gay....that does not affect me, as those things which define his gayness, are not a factor in our amicable and platonic relationship. What one believes or does, is THEIR matter, and unless it becomes an extrinsic factor in a relationship, it is irrelevant.