Point of Mechanical MODS?!

[danieldebomb]

I'm currently vaping with the EVOD and I'm wondering how do I know if the mod I am purchasing can switch out with my current battery and fit into the cartomizer screw?
ALso I'd like to know what benefits MODS can give

I am a noob and I barely know anything so yea

 

[Cloudboss]

The evod is what is know as an ego style vape. If you look inside where the center pin on the battery is you will see threads on the inside also that is for what is known as a 510 threading. All drippers and rtas use the 510 connection. If the device you are looking at has an ego style thread it will be mentioned in the product description.
I can say that the evod is very suited for its stock tank and putting it on a different mod won't necessarily increase the quality of your vape

Pretty much all ego style mods have the 510 on the inside

A mechanical mod has no chips and the quality of your vape relies solely on how you build the coil. You can use mech mods with cartomizers " given they have a 510 threading" but the vape won't be very good as the most you will get is 4.2 volts

A regulated mod however can adjust voltage and wattage depending what you want to put on it. Say you want to use a tank... then set it to around 10 watts and it will vape good, on the other side if you want to use a re buildable atty then you can build the coil however you like and adjust the wattage to get the vape you want

Really regulated mods are a lot Easter to use and definitely safer if you are not in tune with ohms law and how electricity works

Hope the info was helpful!

 

[Number3124]

Given your last sentence you'll want to stick with regulated mods. A mech is an advanced item and should only be handled by those who know what they're doing. If you don't you might blow a hand off or give yourself a second or third degree burn.

My advice? Get something like an Eleaf iStick or iStick Mini if you want more power and your atomizer had a 510 connection. You can tell if your atomizer connects via a post with threading on the outside. If it doesn't then you'll want to stick with eGo style batteries like what you already have unless you also want a new atomizer.

 

[RBVapes]

These days, In my opinion, mechanicals have much less allure. Back "in the day" which was as short as 12 months ago in most cases, your regulated mods couldn't handle more than 5V or 15W depending on the device. We went with mechanical mods as a way to push mor power or wattage to RDAs.

Fast forward a year and there are now a number of regulated mods able to deliver 100+ watts of power. To me, I'll take the cost/risk of electrical failure that a regulated device adds to the equation to have an electrical "safety fuse" to my situation. I've stopped all use of mechanicals in the last six months. The ability to adjust my "battery" vs. my coil and the safety benefits to me are worth the increased cost (potentially) and decreased durability (potentially).

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

I currently use both mechanical mods and regulated mods. Both have their place, function, and good or bad points. My mech is what I carry everywhere and my sigelei 150 stays at home and on car trips. Mechs are freakin bulletproof, where regulated mods will absolutely, positively break when you least expect it. Mechs are like firearms where regulated mods are like tv's. A firearm can last hundreds of years, where your tv will break much sooner.

Heres the explanation you need to hear.
In mechanical mods and related coil builds,
YOUR COIL IS LIKE A GARDEN HOSE, YOUR BATTERY IS LIKE A WATER TANK. OHMS IS THE WATER RESISTANCE
Thicker hose and/or shorter hose, means less resistance. Thinner hose and/or longer hose, means more resistance.
You can use a very thin, very short hose and get very little water resistance. You can use a much thicker, much longer hose to equal the same resistance. A decent water pressure is dependent upon a happy medium.

Your battery pushes electricity, your coils resistance to it will determine the power you get. Ohms are the resistance to that electrical charge. This is why your evod coils will vape poorly on a mechanical. 1.8-2.2 ohms is alot of resistance for a 3.6v, 18650 battery, and it draws very little power. If your resistance was lower, like say .7-1ohm, your evod vape experience would be much better. This does not account for the compatibility issues, its just coil science.

The gauge of wire used is crucial to the power you draw and to make a coil with enough surface area to vape well. A very thin gauge wire would take far little to make a coil with enough surface area, and a very thick wire would take far too much.

Does this make any sense? Any questions about how it works, please ask.

 

[Giraut]

Mech mods are renowned for their reliability and their ability to ruin batteries if you don't know what the fuck you're doing, and their total lack of flexibility as far as power output goes. But they're usually stylish and expensive, so at least you can ruin batteries in style

 

[Faceless Vapes]

I love mechs and really only use mechs. Dont have a problem with Regulated I just have been using mechs for so long. Mechs are heavily reliant upon your build/wick where as you could just slam shit loads of power through a regulated device on any build.

 

[vortex12]

I use regulated mods at work and in public and the unregulated box I built at Home or in the car. The unregulated is nice for those moments when I wanna throw 260 watts at something or I want ridiculous battery life

 

[vortex12]

I never gave unregulated mods any thought till I started dripping though

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

Mech mods are renowned for their reliability and their ability to ruin batteries if you don't know what the fuck you're doing, and their total lack of flexibility as far as power output goes. But they're usually stylish and expensive, so at least you can ruin batteries in style

Expensive?

 

[vortex12]

Expensive?

Some authentic mech mods run easily 3-400 bucks

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

Some authentic mech mods run easily 3-400 bucks

I know that, but with the complete market dominance of clones and affordable authentics, no one really needs to pay those prices.
Giraut is from europe though, maybe they are more expensive there...

 

[vortex12]

I know that, but with the complete market dominance of clones and affordable authentics, no one really needs to pay those prices.
Giraut is from europe though, maybe they are more expensive there...

Some people like having authentics, I love having authentics, though my budget doesn't allow me to haha so clones for me

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

Some people like having authentics, I love having authentics, though my budget doesn't allow me to haha so clones for me

I have two authentics a CLTv2 and a sigelei 150. Chinese, mass produced, authentic.
I wish I could buy american authentics, but their production efficiency hasnt lowered the price to where I can afford them.

 

[vortex12]

I have two authentics a CLTv2 and a sigelei 150. Chinese, mass produced, authentic.
I wish I could buy american authentics, but their production efficiency hasnt lowered the price to where I can afford them.

I get all authentic mods, except for the ones I built, which I guess count as authentic. I don't want cheap engineering blowing up in my face but I get clone rdas usually

 

[Giraut]

Some authentic mech mods run easily 3-400 bucks

Even a $30 metal tube with a threaded connector is an expensive metal tube with a threaded connector.

 

[vortex12]

This is very true

 

[madmonkey]

I love how people say that "you can use a cartomizer/clearomizer on a mech but you'll get crappy performance with it being 1.8 ohms or higher" lets' go even further back in the day....like 18 months and more....remember Joytech's famous Ego and Ego-T/Ego-C batteries? Those put out a whopping 3.4 volts IF they worked right and then they upgraded them to have the "unregulated" feature so it would work like a Mech mod and drain from 4.2 down to it's little circuit board's safety cut off. And we put every atty, carto, and clearo on those batteries and even a couple early RDA's and we loved 'em....And if you ever put a volt meter on them it would make you cry....even the first generation of twist batteries couldn't hold their volts

There was a time we used carto tanks and clearos were used with protected ICR's in mechs to get a longer battery life out of our cartos and 510 atty's because that's what there was....it's not that those things perform poorly on a mech it's that people's tastes have changed so radically in such a short time towards the mega cloud movement that running these things on a mech is an outdated concept. And it makes sense that it is because we have so many good regulated devices now that there is no point to doing it that way. I know that I am not the only one that remembers "ultra low 1.5 ohm" atty's and "1.2 ohm dual coil ultra low cartomizers"

It's a different era of vaping which seems to happen like every week and while mechs had their time...they're not as practical as they once were. I was just talking to someone the other day about how if I would have started vaping now I would have a desk full of sub ohm tanks and regulated box mods instead of mech mods and RDA's....It just depends on when you entered the vaping world that determines your first stash of gear....we all go threw the "buy everything shiney" phase in the beginning afterall

All that being said...I would stick with regulated mods for the time being...they come with clear instructions like "use this type of batteries" and "can only use a coil with X.XX resistance or higher"...helps with getting the basics down and the learning curve. The only thing mechs come with is itself and without taking the proper time to learn about their tempermental nature if not used properly they can be quite unsafe.

 

[Giraut]

Yes, I remember fondly my '65 T'Bird, my '69 Dodge Charger, and my 74 Cad DeVille. They were great cars. Only if I'm honest, they weren't: today's cars drive so much better!

Personally, I don't miss cartos, and Ego batteries or mechs for those who wanted better because there was no other alternatives. Good riddance. Thank goodness there are good electronic mods and high performance toppers these days.

 

[madmonkey]

Yes, I remember fondly my '65 T'Bird, my '69 Dodge Charger, and my 74 Cad DeVille. They were great cars. Only if I'm honest, they weren't: today's cars drive so much better!

Personally, I don't miss cartos, and Ego batteries or mechs for those who wanted better because there was no other alternatives. Good riddance. Thank goodness there are good electronic mods and high performance toppers these days.

I couldn't agree with you more...I just don't forget where we came from and am grateful for how good we have these days

And I salute the vapors that came before me that vaped on stones and bear skins...because of their suffering and persiverence we have the gear we have today...

 

[Giraut]

I couldn't agree with you more...I just don't forget where we came from and am grateful for how good we have these days

Well, to the credit of all the old vaping shit we're all glad to be rid of, it's gotten me off cigarettes. So, yeah, I'm with you there. Even a CE5 is better than a cigarette - barely

 

[TotallyWicked]

Another main advantage of mechanical mods is they all have replaceable 18350, 18650 batteries etc. Some of the non mechanical devices - for example the eLeaf iStick have integrated batteries that cant be replaced (you would have to buy a whole new iStick once batteries are worn out.) So because of this many people like mech mods just because the cost effectiveness of replacing a standard 18650 battery. Also a metal battery tube doesn't have circuitry that can fail , also sometimes the circuitry in devices like iStick prevents the user from using lower resistance coils. These are some of the reasons people prefer fully mechanical mods. I personally love both mech mods as well as non mech, the iStick has nice features that the basic battery tubes lack such as the battery life display and ohm reading etc.

 

[Whiskey]

I couldn't agree with you more...I just don't forget where we came from and am grateful for how good we have these days

And I salute the vapors that came before me that vaped on stones and bear skins...because of their suffering and persiverence we have the gear we have today...

And as a tribute to that I will move thread to mech mod area