I don't understand mechnical mods.

[Woodsman]

Or maybe I do. Is this it?

The shot of high watts delivers instant vape. The higher the wattage, the quicker the response of the coil.

Low wattage vaping means a slower response from the coil.

A 30 amp battery can release a lot of energy quickly. This could be a problem if the user holds down the fire switch too long.

Anyway, I use temp control for high wattage (25 watt) vaping. I use 2.0 ohm coils for low wattage (5.5 watt) vaping.

Some day, if I ever meet, in person, a vaper with a mech mod, I'll have to try it out.

 

[TasteMyToast]

I didn't get it until recently either. However after purchasing one, I do get it. It's challanging building a coil just right to get that perfect vape. With my sigelei I could build a shitty coil, and just pump a shit ton of watts through it to get a good vape. Plus my infected mod is built like a tank, my regulated mods are one good fall away from being a paper weight.

 

[nightshard]

The higher the wattage the quicker the response.
The smaller the mass of the coil the quicker the response.
With mechs the lower the coil resistance the higher the wattage.
With a regulated device it doesn't matter as long as the resistance is within the capabilities of the mod.

 

[twisted]

I didn't get it until recently either. However after purchasing one, I do get it. It's challanging building a coil just right to get that perfect vape. With my sigelei I could build a shitty coil, and just pump a shit ton of watts through it to get a good vape. Plus my infected mod is built like a tank, my regulated mods are one good fall away from being a paper weight.

You got a infect mod too. Your the first I have seen with one besides me. I got the black and brass one looks bad ass with the mutation x on it

 

[TasteMyToast]

You got a infect mod too. Your the first I have seen with one besides me. I got the black and brass one looks bad ass with the mutation x on it

I've got a ss and brass media blasted one, currently waiting for my media blasted tugboat to come in.

 

[twisted]

Nice

 

[Robert B]

My local vape shot has a media blasted dark blue with brass.. tempted

 

[TasteMyToast]

My local vape shot has a media blasted dark blue with brass.. tempted

Do it man.

 

[Woodsman]

The higher the wattage the quicker the response.
The smaller the mass of the coil the quicker the response.
With mechs the lower the coil resistance the higher the wattage.
With a regulated device it doesn't matter as long as the resistance is within the capabilities of the mod.

Nice summary. Thanks!

 

[BoomStick]

Simplicity, durability, reliability and no built in power limit. Elegant and effective form and function. I love my mech/rda.

 

[Vash]

Simple to use,simple to fix looks great and vape perfect for my style

 

[Woodsman]

A DNA40 chip will not burn dry cotton. A kanthal/mech mod setup will. Seems that DNA40 is for folks who don't keep track of the amount of juice in their RDA...
Well, one of these days when I find my Smok XPro M80, I'll try its mech mode with some Kanthal wire. But for now, I'm fine with my DNA40 Ni200 setup.
Sure is a clean looking mod with the Derringer, Boomstick!

 

[whitepony1986]

i have a infected mod as well its probably the best mod i have owned since i sold my precise + which im still kicking myself for that

 

[raqball]

A well made mech mod could last you an entire lifetime if it's cleaned and maintained regularly..

With the constant threat of vape-pocalypse, having a high quality mech mod and a high quality RDA / RBA is probably a good idea..

 

[Hey! it's just Ray...]

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[efektt]

You can use a mech to vape at any wattage. You just have to adjust your built. You could even vape at 5.5 watts on a mech if you wanted.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I use them all, everything from an sxm in battleaxe mode at 95-110w, a dna40/atlantis, provari/kayfun and a mechanical/RDA ... depends on my mood, really-I'm a multi personality vapor
Lately my all day carry is the sxmini with either a tugboat/anarchist or a aquav2. or my praxis with a kennedy.

For me the mechanical draw is simple elegance that just works.

 

[outwest]

With the mech mods, I use a protected battery and I've been happiest with 32gauge Kanthal wrapped to be at 2.3 ohms. 'Course, that's very similar to the vape you get with the eGo (except the battery performs MUCH better and if it's a shitty build on the atomizer, it's my own damn fault *laf*). I've got a regulated mod on the way, so I'm heading in the opposite direction of the OP and have my own learning curve ahead of me (how many watts to set the thing at to work well with the battery and build, what sort of build to do that'll make me happy, etc).

I know I'll always love my mechs, no matter how well I like the VV/VW mods, if for no other reason that the knowledge that no matter what the govt does about ecigs, any machinist can build one

 

[retic1959]

I use them all, everything from an sxm in battleaxe mode at 95-110w, a dna40/atlantis, provari/kayfun and a mechanical/RDA ... depends on my mood, really-I'm a multi personality vapor
Lately my all day carry is the sxmini with either a tugboat/anarchist or a aquav2. or my praxis with a kennedy.

For me the mechanical draw is simple elegance that just works.

I remember you not caring for mechs at one time , finally found one you like ? I rarely use a regulated device anymore . My all day vape is either a Stingray X or a copper Stingray topped with a Rose V2 or sometimes an Aqua V2 . I prefer the aesthetics of a mech .

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I remember you not caring for mechs at one time , finally found one you like ? I rarely use a regulated device anymore . My all day vape is either a Stingray X or a copper Stingray topped with a Rose V2 or sometimes an Aqua V2 . I prefer the aesthetics of a mech .

Haha!!! Yeah I was still relatively new to the whole vaping scene...what's the phrase? Young and dumb? I think I had Just gotten off the egos at the time.
We need to get together again. Since then I've gotten into every corner. From tc with DNAs and SXminis, high power, and the mechs.
I swap mechs between thr praxis and 4nine. I still prefer the VW, but sometimes only a mechanical will do, lmao!!!! Only problem is all of my mechanical mods are hybrid, so I have to stick with certain rdas. Love the stingray X though that mod is beautiful!

 

[scarecrowjenkins]

I got into mech mods because every time i sat down with an ego in my pocket it snapped in half. Also because i found the little tanks to be more frustrating than satisfying. Like the person above me mentioned, if it doesn't work (dry hits etc.) then it's my own fault, it's just a simple circuit. Just gotta be a little smarter than your mod I like the overall simplicity, it just suits my tastes better. The quality of tanks in the last year has been a wonder to behold, i imagine if i just started vaping today that i would be plenty happy with a 50w box and a subtank of some sort. It's a fast paced industry, if you can't find something to satisfy your needs-wait 10 minutes. It'll be there haha

 

[retic1959]

Haha!!! Yeah I was still relatively new to the whole vaping scene...what's the phrase? Young and dumb? I think I had Just gotten off the egos at the time.
We need to get together again. Since then I've gotten into every corner. From tc with DNAs and SXminis, high power, and the mechs.
I swap mechs between thr praxis and 4nine. I still prefer the VW, but sometimes only a mechanical will do, lmao!!!! Only problem is all of my mechanical mods are hybrid, so I have to stick with certain rdas. Love the stingray X though that mod is beautiful!

Aside from the flavor , the Rose V2 's 510 is very adjustable so I use the Rose V2 on the Stingray X with the hybrid adapter . That combo is in my hands 99% of the time . Sometimes it's an Aqua V2 or a Veritas . And yup we need to go have a coupla beers sometime soon .

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Aside from the flavor , the Rose V2 's 510 is very adjustable so I use the Rose V2 on the Stingray X with the hybrid adapter . That combo is in my hands 99% of the time . Sometimes it's an Aqua V2 or a Veritas . And yup we need to go have a coupla beers sometime soon .

Definitely!!!
Was looking at the rose, but the airflow has me concerned. Thr aqua2 wide open is still just a hair tight. Lemo2 wide open is really ideal. Would love to see another single coil RTA with a bunch of airflow hit the market one of these days- would be ideal for A tc mod.

 

[retic1959]

Definitely!!!
Was looking at the rose, but the airflow has me concerned. Thr aqua2 wide open is still just a hair tight. Lemo2 wide open is really ideal. Would love to see another single coil RTA with a bunch of airflow hit the market one of these days- would be ideal for A tc mod.

The airflow on the Rose is tight but it has the most intense flavor of any atty that I've tried , but it'll never be a lunghitter that's for sure . I use a lower nic level in the Aqua and my RDA's than I do in the Rose , I get my nicfix from the Rose .

 

[f1r3b1rd]

The airflow on the Rose is tight but it has the most intense flavor of any atty that I've tried , but it'll never be a lunghitter that's for sure . I use a lower nic level in the Aqua and my RDA's than I do in the Rose , I get my nicfix from the Rose .

Lol... Gotcha! I found the aqua to really have the perfect balance of flavor/vapor. For me at least.
I'll definitely be ordering the aquaSE, without a doubt. RDA wise, I've been hooked on the kennedycomp and tugboat with anarchist cap. Between those two I should just stop watching you tube and save some money, LMAO

 

[retic1959]

Lol... Gotcha! I found the aqua to really have the perfect balance of flavor/vapor. For me at least.
I'll definitely be ordering the aquaSE, without a doubt. RDA wise, I've been hooked on the kennedycomp and tugboat with anarchist cap. Between those two I should just stop watching you tube and save some money, LMAO

Yeah , he's got a decent price on the SE , probably had to after the debacle with Fasttech and the Aqua V2 , authentic , OEM , OTM . Apparently he went to the factory and requested that the supply to Fasttech be cutoff so it's been discontinued there , It's my personal belief that Footoon was lying his ass off about not outsourcing to China .

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Yeah , he's got a decent price on the SE , probably had to after the debacle with Fasttech and the Aqua V2 , authentic , OEM , OTM . Apparently he went to the factory and requested that the supply to Fasttech be cutoff so it's been discontinued there , It's my personal belief that Footoon was lying his ass off about not outsourcing to China .

That was funny shit! Personally I don't care if its made by elves working for reindeer turds. Its the best damn rta I've ever used looks and performance

 

[retic1959]

That was funny shit! Personally I don't care if its made by elves working for reindeer turds. Its the best damn rta I've ever used looks and performance

It was hilarious , I'm just glad I got one before it got discontinued .

 

[f1r3b1rd]

It was hilarious , I'm just glad I got one before it got discontinued .

I didn't even know it got discontinued.
I've heard from a secret spy that that the v2 tank will fit the SE base.
If that's the case im all over it. But the stock SE tank having only 2.5ml is a total deal breaker otherwise.

 

[chewedatty]

A mech with a dripper for me is simplicity. Single coil, 18650 batt & a liquid of choice. I use a budget vw for out at work & mech mods for my lounging. More recently the dual 18650 box mech has become my champion. I wouldn't exchange them for any vv, vw, tempcontrol.

 

[outwest]

I got into mech mods because every time i sat down with an ego in my pocket it snapped in half. Also because i found the little tanks to be more frustrating than satisfying.

Ha! Nice to know I wasn't the only one that was constantly breaking my eGos *loL* I do feel your pain. Couldn't count the times I had to put the battery back together or panic because I broke it so badly that the wire broke apart as well, or busted the tank section and ended up with a tank full of liquid emptied out into my back pocket *shaking head*

Regarding the frustrating tanks - yeah, there's a shop in my area that has replacement coils for cartomizers that are 90% of the time okay, but so many that I tried from other places were just complete and utter crap, and don't even get me started on all the worthless and defective clearomizers that I went through *ugh*. Now we just need to grab our Kanthal, cutters, something to make a wick with, and it's all good I was scoping out some of the newer mods and RDAs earlier; your, "if you can't find something to satisfy your needs-wait 10 minutes" is spot on.

 

[Woodsman]

You can use a mech to vape at any wattage. You just have to adjust your built. You could even vape at 5.5 watts on a mech if you wanted.

I get that. Maybe I understand more than I think. Thanks!

 

[Woodsman]

You can use a mech to vape at any wattage. You just have to adjust your built. You could even vape at 5.5 watts on a mech if you wanted.

I finally got around to trying that. Built a 2.4 ohm Kanthal 28gauge coil for my Magma and attached it to my Mini Provari at 3.3 volts = 4.5 watts. Of course it's not an instant response when I press the button, but it's a nice casual tasty vape with Velvet Cloud (18mg Nicotine) Melonomenon mixed 50/50 with 70VG/30PG zero nic base = 9mg Nicotine, a bit high for an RDA so it's not an all day vape). I also attached the Magma to my Smok M80 set to Mechanical Mode (3.9 volts) reading 6.3 watts. Faster response, a bit harsher taste.

 

[Woodsman]

Simplicity, durability, reliability and no built in power limit. Elegant and effective form and function. I love my mech/rda.

That's a SMPL and a Derringer. I ordered a SMPL but not a Derringer. I like my HOBO and my MAGMA so I'll stay with them.
I posted this question in another forum, but I'll ask you since you have a SMPL:

"Okay, so I'm going to experiment with a mech mod now (I've been all about DNA40/Ni200 but want to try a mech mod so I ordered a SMPL clone).
So...I'll be vaping with a HOBO RDA, single coil, 28 gauge Kanthal.
When I build my coil, what Ohms reading should I shoot for?

 

[Barkt]

Mech mods are something I can't seem to like logically, but on a gut level I want. I hate having to limit my wattage to my build, worry about shorts, etc. I mean, I can build for a mech, but when I use a good VW I wonder "Why bother?"

Until of course I go to a store and see the nice authentic mechs on display and start doing mental math to see if I can afford it

 

[Woodsman]

Mech mods are something I can't seem to like logically, but on a gut level I want. I hate having to limit my wattage to my build, worry about shorts, etc. I mean, I can build for a mech, but when I use a good VW I wonder "Why bother?"

Until of course I go to a store and see the nice authentic mechs on display and start doing mental math to see if I can afford it

Seems like mech mods are like Model T Fords...some people like to drive a Model T. Most people like a modern automobile.
Since I've invested in one now, I'll have to find out why some people still use them.

 

[chewedatty]

Seems like mech mods are like Model T Fords...some people like to drive a Model T. Most people like a modern automobile.
Since I've invested in one now, I'll have to find out why some people still use them.

It's like anything else really, personal preference or just a choice. A well made mech could potentially last a lifetime although i somehow think that most people like getting more of them anyway. The down side is the ever obvious noticable voltage drop in power & the smaller the battery, the sooner it rears it's ugly head. I had stepped away from tube mechs for a short time & then came the palm sized dual 18650 mechs & they have rekindled my love for the mech. With that i get 2 days out of a pair of samsung 25r's & the voltage drop is less abrupt too.
Then there is the roots & culture, the artform & the pairing of concept mod & atty, see pinoy gear through recent years for the best examples of that. A flair for the art if you like.

For my own ends i like mod & atty to be made of the best materials as possibe & that is inherrent in higher end mechanical mods & atomizers.
The point there is that in general i go for mechs because they are the area where quality is found (Not always but in general)....But i'm just one individual.

 

[retic1959]

Seems like mech mods are like Model T Fords...some people like to drive a Model T. Most people like a modern automobile.
Since I've invested in one now, I'll have to find out why some people still use them.

Model T ? I have a different analogy , aesthetically , vaping on a fine mech is akin to smoking a fine , hand rolled cigar whereas most regulated devices make me feel like I'm smoking the box they came in .

 

[TasteMyToast]

Well I dropped my infected mod on my kitchen floor, and it broke the tile. Mods fine, so +1 for mechs, the same fall woulda destroyed my sigelei.

 

[scotterics]

I'm a "mech guy" (currently own 9 different ones, each with their own rda and a different flavor)...

I think I dig the "mechanical-ness" (to coin a word) of them....
However... I still have a carburetor on my truck and a kickstarter on my bike so I MAY just be an old geezer

 

[Woodsman]

Well, I'm in it now. Couldn't stop at one. Bought the SMPL (copper contacts but probably not the best...cost $14, Infinite clone costs over twice as much). Then I saw an Infinite clone of the Skyline M2 for $24.50 and went "clicky happy." Later, I was curious what Infinite had cloned (If I can't afford an authentic, Infinite is the best second choice, and if I can't afford an Infinite, then better off not buying anything) and came across the Calvert for $29.99 and had to have it. Then two Efest 18350 purple, plus one Efest 18650 purple. Total spent = $90.

 

[outwest]

Well I dropped my infected mod on my kitchen floor, and it broke the tile. Mods fine, so +1 for mechs, the same fall woulda destroyed my sigelei.

Good point (and a reminder to me to be careful with my sigelei). I've dropped my primary mech (Kingpin clone) probably a dozen times on concrete and while there's been minor cosmetic damage (and also one time resulted in a broken plastic section on my Kayfun lite clone), my mech still chugs along just fine.

Well, I'm in it now. Couldn't stop at one.

Enjoy your new toys!

 

[Woodsman]

The toy I'm most looking forward to is (hopefully) my final purchase for awhile:

 

[Discobob]

I love them both, my mech mod is just plain wonderful but I love my tanks when I'm just in the mood to be lazy and vape or driving etc, I tell ya what though I have been vaping the shit out of my little ego one tank with a temp build in it, flavor is just plain silly and I vape it till nothing, Put a different juice in and absolutely no transition or mixing of flavors. But I always go back to the mech mod for my hard hits

 

[retic1959]

Well, I'm in it now. Couldn't stop at one. Bought the SMPL (copper contacts but probably not the best...cost $14, Infinite clone costs over twice as much). Then I saw an Infinite clone of the Skyline M2 for $24.50 and went "clicky happy." Later, I was curious what Infinite had cloned (If I can't afford an authentic, Infinite is the best second choice, and if I can't afford an Infinite, then better off not buying anything) and came across the Calvert for $29.99 and had to have it. Then two Efest 18350 purple, plus one Efest 18650 purple. Total spent = $90.

Infinite is great but I wouldn't discount Hcigar or Shenxi either , but they are at the same price point or higher than Infinite .

 

[Woodsman]

If Infinite doesn't clone it, then I'll consider Hcigar or Shenxi. Thanks!!

 

[efektt]

@Woodsman. When you use the smpl or any hybrid mech, make sure the positive pin od your atty sticks out a little bit. If it doesnt it will create a dead short. Also dont press the button without an atty on it.

 

[BoomStick]

@Woodsman. When you use the smpl or any hybrid mech, make sure the positive pin od your atty sticks out a little bit. If it doesnt it will create a dead short. Also dont press the button without an atty on it.

Very good advice. I'll add that with a SMPL, first screw in the atty all the way, then install the battery, then screw in the button and slightly tighten it. Remove stuff in reverse order. Button, battery then remove atty. Since the SMPL relies on the battery wrapper to insulate the battery from the switch, the wrapper must be in good shape.

 

[Woodsman]

@Woodsman. When you use the smpl or any hybrid mech, make sure the positive pin od your atty sticks out a little bit. If it doesnt it will create a dead short. Also dont press the button without an atty on it.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Woodsman]

Very good advice. I'll add that with a SMPL, first screw in the atty all the way, then install the battery, then screw in the button and slightly tighten it. Remove stuff in reverse order. Button, battery then remove atty. Since the SMPL relies on the battery wrapper to insulate the battery from the switch, the wrapper must be in good shape.

Thank you, as well!!