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Mike H.

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Well, ive had this copper nemesis for almost a week or so and i really like this mod..when i recieved it ,it already had some magnets installed (looks like fasttech magnets) in the switch but wasnt happy really with how it felt.

I found that the firing pin on the switch had to be turned out too far to make contact and that just made the switch feel like garbage.

The mod still had the really small ring between the 2 tubes that make it 18650 mode (with a kick?) and this was causing the extra distance needed with the firing pin...I tried to remove it by hand but could not get it to come off...so i sacrificed the ring all together and pried it off with a pair of pliers..The ring was on so tight it actually ripped the copper while trying to get it off...wasnt a pretty sight..lol
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Needless to say the firing pin on the button can now be tightened down fully and this button is now buttery smooth from any angle i press the button...i dont even really hear a clicky sound to it at all...Im sure some even better N50 magnets will make it better.

So, now i figured i would try some fat daddy vapes silver plated firing pins for a little upgrade...well that didnt turn out so well.

The top firing pin is so thick at the 510 where it makes contact to the battery , that i couldnt come close to installing the firing button down all the way down..it looked like this with the top fatdaddys firing pin installed...Certainly not pleasant looking..Now that i think about it that ring that i had to destroy to get off may have been the space i needed to use the new fat daddys contact pins..Oh well.
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So the fatdaddys firing pin set is not going to happen on my nemesis.

Upon doing some research i have found pure copper firing pins which im going to give a try...they seem to be direct replacements but a little expensive...The only place i could find these are from vape royalty at $9.99 a set and with shipping just over $13.00.
http://www.vaperoyalty.com/nemesis-mod-pure-copper-contact-pin-set/


Ive found my rice pin to be of solid brass to my surprise (no silver plating) so, i may as well make this a 100 percent copper mod and find a solid copper pin for it...If anyone knows where to find solid copper rice pins (without plating) ,please let me know...i dont have my calipers with me to properly measure the pin for diameter or i would just buy a solid copper rod and make some...lol
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Ive just recently ordered the Kepler hybrid top cap in copper and will hope all goes well with that piece and gives me some "hybrid" performance from this nemesis...its no slouch right now but to make it hybrid would really kick it up a notch or 2.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1871709

I like my copper SMPL performance wise as one would with a hybrid but dont care for the switch on them... there is just something about the nemesis ive always liked and this has been my most used mod so far since diving into tube mech mods.

I'll keep those interested on how well the hybrid cap works and the rest of it as i receive the parts...Thanks for looking.

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Mike H.

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I found a much better deal on solid copper adjustable firing pins from vaping walrus out of california for less than 8 dollars shipped...these arent copper plated but are 100 percent copper...ill be sure not to tighten anything down to tight as to crush or bend anything.

I found i can use 12g solid copper wire to make my rice pins from so, i wont be spending 7 dollars for 2 of those from a retail store...i can buy a foot of copper wire for 34 cents and have all the pins ill ever need....lol

Anyhow, im excited about seeing how this100 percent all copper Nemesis mod will perform..the only pieces on the mod that wont be copper are of course the top and bottom insulators and the magnets...and of course, just the lower insulator and magnets with the hybrid copper cap installed.
 
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TDC123

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I too love the Nemesis. My affair with them started a year and a half ago. I rarely use anything else except a Hammer now and then.

First I got a Hcigar stainless and then another. I run mostly Kayfuns and they play well together.

Then I picked up a Hcigar solid brass used last year that had been powder coated to go with my fogger. I fell out of love with the Fogger and stripped all the powder coat from the Nemmy. Then I gave the Fogger a go again lately and I'm waiting on a black aluminum from FT to arrive, one of those single tube types, never had one before and never had aluminum. We'll see how that works out...

Playing with the brass one I decided to try some different brass quartz tanks, somehow that lead to a copper Nemesis purchase from FT and some more kayfun glass tanks and more hybrid adapters. If you decide on another copper Nemmy, a really decent one can be had off FT for 13 bucks. I ordered a second one last night. I did have a sieze up though with my copper Nemmy but with my locking ring. I think it's something to do with copper. The threads were smooth as butter but it was a terrible bear to finally get apart.

Over the last year I've ordered all kinds of stuff them and most of it wasn't an improvement. I've got those FD pins but I don't use them either I don't know how many magnets including those big 2mm ones and I was never 100% satisfied. I found some cone shaped spring at the hardware store that I snipped down to fit in the Nemmy and it's just about right. It will stand without firing but isn't a so hard a switch throw that my batteries become indented. Plus they don't collect crud and juice that may have leaked like the magnets. I'm much happier with these springs.

Nice thing about using "old stuff" like the nemmy and kayfuns is that you can do all kind of configurations with them really cheap from FT.

I drip a lot too. I'm liking my Nemmy's really short and streamlined lately so I've been running hybrids and I have some Derriners on the way from FT to put on each of my different colored Nemmy's.

Did you order from VW? I've thought about getting something from them but I don't know much about them.
 

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I too love the Nemesis. My affair with them started a year and a half ago. I rarely use anything else except a Hammer now and then.

First I got a Hcigar stainless and then another. I run mostly Kayfuns and they play well together.

Then I picked up a Hcigar solid brass used last year that had been powder coated to go with my fogger. I fell out of love with the Fogger and stripped all the powder coat from the Nemmy. Then I gave the Fogger a go again lately and I'm waiting on a black aluminum from FT to arrive, one of those single tube types, never had one before and never had aluminum. We'll see how that works out...

Playing with the brass one I decided to try some different brass quartz tanks, somehow that lead to a copper Nemesis purchase from FT and some more kayfun glass tanks and more hybrid adapters. If you decide on another copper Nemmy, a really decent one can be had off FT for 13 bucks. I ordered a second one last night. I did have a sieze up though with my copper Nemmy but with my locking ring. I think it's something to do with copper. The threads were smooth as butter but it was a terrible bear to finally get apart.

Over the last year I've ordered all kinds of stuff them and most of it wasn't an improvement. I've got those FD pins but I don't use them either I don't know how many magnets including those big 2mm ones and I was never 100% satisfied. I found some cone shaped spring at the hardware store that I snipped down to fit in the Nemmy and it's just about right. It will stand without firing but isn't a so hard a switch throw that my batteries become indented. Plus they don't collect crud and juice that may have leaked like the magnets. I'm much happier with these springs.

Nice thing about using "old stuff" like the nemmy and kayfuns is that you can do all kind of configurations with them really cheap from FT.

I drip a lot too. I'm liking my Nemmy's really short and streamlined lately so I've been running hybrids and I have some Derriners on the way from FT to put on each of my different colored Nemmy's.

Did you order from VW? I've thought about getting something from them but I don't know much about them.


I ordered the copper firing pins from VW for $4.99 a pair last night.. it beats $9.99 from a different source i found...They seem to carry alot of replacement parts for the nemesis mods...As with most any retail supplier some of the items can be pricey but its the best source of parts ive found so far.

Which hybrid adapter are you using?...Im finding a few different ones now and ordered the Kepler hybrid cap from FT a few days ago..Ive seen some buying those nemesis/kayfun 3.1 adapter kits as well from FT and just using the hybrid cap it comes with...cant beat the prices, thats for sure.

Im pretty happy with my fire button...I bought a pack of 10 magnets from FT a while back and im using 3 magnets in my switch...2 on button cap and one opposing magnet...i tried 4 magnets but it doesnt leave enough throw for the firing pin to make contact without screwing it out, making it loose and somewhat wobbly which i dont care for...Im finding 3 magnets to be about as strong as 4 and i can still tighten the pin all the way down tight like its supposed to be.

Im going to sand down a little off the insulator and bring the switch in more..this should shorten throw making it smoother.
 

TDC123

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I do have the Kayfun hybrid adapters you mentioned. They come in really handy used as intended with an atty that has a recessed positive pin. They look, feel remarkabyly flimsy but work well.I have that recessed pin scenario on an authentic Russian 91 that I swapped out the positive pin with one of the Kayfun/Russian parts kits from FDV. I have also ran them with just the brass piece in a more realistic hybrid mode but there is a catch. They don't come drilled or slotted like the Kepler so they can get stuck. I plan to drill mine and also to drill my Keplers when they come in. I too have recently ordered some of the Keplers. I can't report back which works the best yet.

It makes me a tad nervous running hybrid setups with the firing pin touching the battery directly, especially with those attys where the firing pin only protrudes a little. I love the look though and as of late I'm trying to make my mods as short and streamlined as possible so I'm on a quest to make it work.

I still wonder why we both had trouble with something siezing on the threads in a copper mod. I've never had it happen before, not like this anyway. I froze mine, soaked in hot soapy water, soaked it in alcohol. Finally I just had to force it off. That warped the locking ring and the bottom of the tube body. I got a socket that fit both really tight and forced it inside both pieces, heating them with a torch and rolling them firmly against a hard surface to get them true again. Then I had to sand all the scuff marks out as much as I could. Then my switch didn't want to thread in. With some serious fiddling I can get it to finally thread in but it's a pain. The threads on the switch are the problem. I've cleand them out all I can without a tap/die. My switches from my ss and brass Nemesis' go in much easier so I may get a new switch from VW. Then again, for five more bucks I can get yeat another Nemmy from FT LOL.

With the switches I got an okay throw from the magnets. There was a guy selling these 2mm magnets that would fit around the rice pin but it took some fiddling to get everything to work. It was a short hard throw which I like and my Nemmy would stand up hard without even wobbling on the switch. However that setup started denting my batteries. All the magnets seems to collect crud and I was getting hot buttons a lot. These stronger springs are working for me so far but I would say they are still in beta at the time.
 

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Probably the shortest you can go is in 18350 mode..ive seen some with hybrid tops and they are very small...the size of a kayfun tank for the lower half...a pretty stealth set up....i can imagine more so with a derringer on one..lol

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Been a while since last post but i did receive my copper firing pins and made a solid copper rice pin from solid 12g copper wire..paid a whole .29 cents for 1ft of it...i should have rice pins for decades..lol

Also, my Kepler hybrid adapter should be in a day or two..already cleared newyork customs and is on the way to my po box...Another fasttech order ive gotten in under 17 days.
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The top cap pin
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This thread makes me want to dig out my old nemesis. That thing has a lot of miles on it and was my favorite mod for a very long time!
 

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It doesn't help much now but I've found with the three Nemi's I have that removing the decorative ring is a matter of where the force is applied, not how much. They are very thin compared to the body of the mod and stick easily. The more pressure you apply the more they deform and the more they stick. What's always worked for me is using a rubber glove for grip (and to avoid cuts) and working my way around the ring putting pressure in just one spot inside and out until I find the spot where it releases.
 
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Mike H.

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Was like xmas at the post office today..i got my latest fasttech order nand some other rda's in a trade.

I have to say the kepler hybrid cap works very well..has great threads on it although they did come quite dirty out of the package but, nothing my brass brush couldnt clean up.

I screwed the cap down to find that it will counter sink into the tube before it gets tight so, the fix for that is to screw the cap down onto the atty before hand then screw the assembly down on the tube.

The cap has a nice huge insulator on the inside to help eliminate shorts and i think its a well built piece for the money.

So, onto the stuff people want, the pics...lol

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Side by sIde with the SMPL..Quite a bit shorter overall but not quite as short as the smpl.
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TDC123

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My Keplers came in the other day and I've been waiting on my Derringers to get here to use them. Some folks prefer the insulator facing the atty. For me the hybrid adapters stay with the atomize they are on so I keep the slots facing the atomizer just in case the kepler doesn't come out with the atty when I screw it off.
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Here's a shot of the FT hybrid adapter with some holes drilled. On the rest of them I just drilled one hole and that has been plenty sufficient.

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TDC123

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On this Russian 91 the positive pin was replaced with a FD versions. The pen extended too high on the positive block and had to be ground off. The pin also sits countersunk into the 510 connection on the bottom of the atty so I have to use the whole hybrid parts kit from FT.

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TDC123

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I mentioned the switch earlier in this thread. This is how I do them. It took a long time searching hardware stores over the last year to find these at an Ace Hardware. I clip off the top 3 or 4 coils on the widest end of the cone shaped spring. The narrowest end of the cone that I clip off goes into the groove in the bottom of the switch that the original spring also goes into. For me this has been the best combination of switch strength and ease of use. I've tried a lot of magnets and springs before finding these.
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Mike H.

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Im getting ready to make a copper spring..i did one today to see if i could do it..a little rough but it works smooth....Im mainly OCD about voltage drop, despite it can be sometimes so small you cant tell the difference...i might even buy pure silver wire to make a spring from and a rice pin...lol
 

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I remember being in this boat with my nemisis too I was able to at least get a replacement firing pin from scraps at the hardware store
 

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I remember being in this boat with my nemisis too I was able to at least get a replacement firing pin from scraps at the hardware store

12mm solid copper wire and a little filing and its a done deal.
 

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That sounds about right with the size of the copper saved me 10-12 bucks if I remember
 

Mike H.

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I bought 1 ft for just over 25 cents.
 

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Normally I think in my case it would have been 50 cents or something for scraps or unmarked stuff like that but he said it would be free since it was about to be thrown out scraps, I used the money towards my an RDA
 

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