Thanks for advice on single Flavor Now here is another question

[arrowcrest]

When testing the flavors I have most people say 3 to 5 ml at a time without nicotine. Do you guys use the small 10 ml plastic bottles for vape liquids? I have about 10 of those , and if I test all I have do you also test things like sweetener and Koolada ? Is 3% for all flavors a starting point and do I let all of them set a couple days before trying? I hate to be such a bother but I am Tired of throwing liquids out that smell good but taste like road kill - LOL
Thanks Again Every Bit Helps

 

[Heabob]

I use 15ml bottles for 5ml test batches, so yes, use any size you have on hand.

Hard to pick a starting point for all the flavor companies and flavors.
3% would be too high for FA Tiramisu or Espresso IMO.
And too low for a lot of others, but, too low is usually still vapeable, unless it's a nasty flavor, lol.
Only a few "single flavors" that I liked so far though, and most seem to work better with other flavors anyway IMO.
24hrs is usually good for steeping most flavors, although Custards, and some Tobaccos need a couple weeks min.

This is why I try recipes posted here, as someone else has done the ground work to get a good starting point at least.
You learn your flavorings as you go, then you can start making your own recipes.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

The only bad question is the one you don't ask. It's perfectly alright to reuse your old bottles as long as you can wash them out and get most of the old scent out (I pretty much use all glass, but that's my personal preference. 3% is just basically a starting point for most flavorings, but there are always exceptions (If I used 3% TFA Caramel Cappuccino, my taste buds would be toast ). I don't use Koolada (I've used it for someone else though) or sweetener, but since those are complimentary flavors, I wouldn't make a sample batch, but that's just me. It's DIY, buy the very definition, you don't have to wait to taste if you don't want to. I tailor everything to my own taste, that's the beauty of DIY. I taste everything (new mixes) right away. How else would you know if it's a shake and vape recipe or one that needs some time? Good luck on your DIY journey!

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Foggz]

The 'taste each flavor individually first' methodology is a good one... however with 120+ flavors from one company /200+/etc over a bunch of flavor companys.. that would take forever .. (I use primarily FA soo for me 120+). With the plethora of great recipes here @VU you don't really have to, you can jump right in and start mixing up known good recipes and gain experience as you go. I tend to only taste individually some flavors as I go .. things I use as a 'base' type flavor (cream's / custards) and then some fruit flavors that tend to be more tricky to 'my palate' - eventually would like to test each one as myexperience grows .. figure that would allow for more complex subtle type recipes like some of the pro's here do.

Bottom Line: I try not to overthink it ;p Good luck and remember to have fun!!

 

[arrowcrest]

The 'taste each flavor individually first' methodology is a good one... however with 120+ flavors from one company /200+/etc over a bunch of flavor companys.. that would take forever .. (I use primarily FA soo for me 120+). With the plethora of great recipes here @VU you don't really have to, you can jump right in and start mixing up known good recipes and gain experience as you go. I tend to only taste individually some flavors as I go .. things I use as a 'base' type flavor (cream's / custards) and then some fruit flavors that tend to be more tricky to 'my palate' - eventually would like to test each one as myexperience grows .. figure that would allow for more complex subtle type recipes like some of the pro's here do.

Bottom Line: I try not to overthink it ;p Good luck and remember to have fun!!

You hit on something I wondered about , which cream is the smoothest and sweetest to add to a flavor? Right now I am working with Cherry flavor and can't get it smooth and sweet enough. I have tried quite a few of Hic's recipes and I am consistant-- none turn out right.

 

[Foggz]

hmmm have you checked out "HIC's Notes" ? grab a drink and a vape and spend some time if you haven't... pure gold -
http://mamajsflavorshop.com/headinclouds-my-notes-on-flavor-descriptions/

I would refer you to the 3 separate cream notations, the custard, and the 3 group'd readings on vanilla in particular (at least as far as FA flavors go).

which cream is the smoothest and sweetest to add to a flavor?

quoting HIC's on this: "FA Vienna Cream:Probably the richest, creamiest, no-diketone sweet cream out there. It’s sweet and creamy with a hint of vanilla when used 3-4% or less. Over 3-4% will give you a sharp flavor that few find appealing."

mamajs makes their 'gameovercustard' which is amazing .. and of course a big standard for some who don't mind the diketones is Caps vanilla custard - I know that they are not creams as you asked about .. but custards and creams to me (as I had mentioned) are similar in that they make a good base for other flavors and add creaminess.

 

[Cramptholomew]

which cream is the smoothest and sweetest to add to a flavor?

FA Cream Fresh is straight diketone free plain cream. I mix that with TFA whipped cream (also diketone free) for more of a whipped/cool whip type taste. Vienna cream is a good cream, but sometimes I just want to add straight cream. If you don't care about diketones, Caps sweet cream is full bodied, rich cream.