SMPL clone from Angelcigs

[Arizona]

Whaddup fellow vapers! Question... Got my 1:1 SMPL last week, and am picking up my VTC5 this week, however, I planned on running my Plume Veil and Troll (both clones) on it, but I'm leary, and here's why: both positive pins, while adjustable (to protrude out past the 510 threads) can be pushed back up fairly easily with decent pressure, and that concerns me big time. I'm not wanting to have that pin push up when I adjust my switch for contact/battery rattle. Can you recommend an RDA that the pin doesn't get pushed up easily? I know most do, but I don't want a hard short! I'm into clouds n flavor both, more towards the cloudchaser perhaps? I dunno. Any recommendations from other SMPL users out there? Thanks for your time, guys.

 

[BoomStick]

I use a Derringer clone from fasttech on my SMPL. Pin is fixed, sticks out plenty and can't be pushed in at all. Flavor and vapor production is pretty damn good. The form factor of the two together is really nice also. Happy hunting.

 

[Arizona]

Thanks! Which exact Derringer do you have? You know Fasttech... A million versions of everything!

 

[BoomStick]

The stainless steel one with the most reviews.

Edit: just checked my old emails and it was sku 2106600. If you get one, I recommend getting one of the derringer resin drip tips as well. They'll be included in the 'derringer' search results.

 

[Robert B]

Thanks! Which exact Derringer do you have? You know Fasttech... A million versions of everything!

Try one of the Bambino's. IMO much better than a derringer. And for 8 bucks? why not?

 

[Arizona]

Thank you, Boomstick (great movie BTW) and Robert! I'm unfamiliar with the Bambino, I'll check it out.

Robert, that center pin won't push up with force? I thought my Plume Veil wouldn't either, but it does. I had to push down on the rda with it on a table, but it still goes back up in. grrr

 

[Robert B]

Thank you, Boomstick (great movie BTW) and Robert! I'm unfamiliar with the Bambino, I'll check it out.

Robert, that center pin won't push up with force? I thought my Plume Veil wouldn't either, but it does. I had to push down on the rda with it on a table, but it still goes back up in. grrr

The contact pin should be screwed in all the way. That's what holds the center post in place on the deck. If it's screwed in all the way, then it can't push up. When it's screwed in all the way, and doesn't protrude out, then don't use the atty on an smpl. I have a Plume Veil sitting right here, it's solid as a rock when tightened down. If the contact pin isn't tight, then it isn't making optimum contact.

 

[Robert B]

Here's my Plume Veil. Contact pin is tightened all the way down and still protrudes out. No problem on an smpl.
If it's not tightened down, the center post can spin.

 

[Arizona]

I must have a crappy clone, then. I adjust the pin down to test it, then thread it onto my iJust2, unscrew the atty, and the pin is pushed back up again. Dang it. Time to get a new atty I guess. Thanks for the response.

 

[BoomStick]

It sounds like you're trying to adjust a pin that is not meant to be adjustable. Some pins need to be fully tightened in order to lock down the post. The pics Robert posted are an example of a pin that needs to be fully tightened. When you fully tighten your pin does it protrude past the threading? Post a pic if you can.

 

[Arizona]

It's the only pin that protrudes. lol The center pin that will make contact with the battery's positive post. On the Troll, fully tightened down, its barely past the threads, and I don't feel comfy running it that way. On the Plume Veil clone its not much better. I loosen them maybe a 1/4 turn to get a better, safer contact with the battery, and its loose enough that I can push em back up with finger pressure. Im afraid that when I adjust for battery rattle that it's gonna push up that post and get messy. I'm all for safety when it comes to mechs.

 

[Robert B]

I'm all for safety when it comes to mechs.

You're making it unsafe by loosening the contact pin. The contact pin is not there to adjust battery rattle. Battery rattle on an smpl is adjusted by tightening the fire button. Screw the contact pin in all the way, take a clear picture and post it here so we can see it. Can't help you anymore than what was already said above.

 

[Arizona]

I think you're misunderstanding me. I KNOW the battery rattle is adjusted via the switch. ;-) My problem is that I'm not comfy running the atty with such minimal protrusion, hence the reason I'm backing out the center pin a 1/4 turn. My concern is that when I adjust the switch for battery rattle, its gonna push that pin back up inside the 510 threading and create a short. I know for certain the Troll won't work on the SMPL, I'll shoot a pic of the Veil when I get home.

 

[Robert B]

I'm just trying to convey to you that you shouldn't back out that pin at all just so it will work with an smpl. If you have to back out the pin to protrude, then you shouldn't use that atty on an smpl. The pin is not designed to be backed out, it is designed to hold the center post in place and provide conductivity to the center post.

When you loosen the contact pin, and you say you can push it up, you are moving the positive center deck post up at the same time. Screw the contact pins down tight, take a clear picture of both and post em.

 

[Arizona]

As you can see, its iffy at best, very minimal center pin sticks out. I just wanted to get someone's opinion on a good atty that will have a better pin protrusion, that blows clouds and has good flavor, too. My Troll is ideal, but won't work on the SMPL. The PV here is super questionable.

 

[Angel Cigs]

have you resolve your problem?

 

[Robert B]

As you can see, its iffy at best, very minimal center pin sticks out. I just wanted to get someone's opinion on a good atty that will have a better pin protrusion, that blows clouds and has good flavor, too. My Troll is ideal, but won't work on the SMPL. The PV here is super questionable.

I would probably use that on an smpl. Just make sure the top of your battery isn't dented.

 

[Arizona]

have you resolve your problem?

Not yet. lol Soon, I hope. Thanks!

 

[Arizona]

I would probably use that on an smpl. Just make sure the top of your battery isn't dented.

Really? I'm a bit leary doing so.

 

[Robert B]

Really? I'm a bit leary doing so.

I have an orchid tank that has about that much sticking out, and it works fine. Just make sure everything is tight & your batteries aren't dented in on the positive end. What mod is that you have it connected to in your Avatar? Looks like a praxis

If you're not comfortable with it, then get another atty.

 

[LuTang]

i've got 2 SMPL clones. one copper, and one stainless. i've had good luck with my Haze Mini clone, Velocity clone, MCV Little Boy clone and Goblin mini RTA on both mods. all of them protrude on mine and you can't push them in as far as i know.

 

[Arizona]

I have an orchid tank that has about that much sticking out, and it works fine. Just make sure everything is tight & your batteries aren't dented in on the positive end. What mod is that you have it connected to in your Avatar? Looks like a praxis

If you're not comfortable with it, then get another atty.

That's a eLeaf iJust 2.

Thanks for your time, dude!

 

[Robert B]

That's a eLeaf iJust 2.

Thanks for your time, dude!

You're welcome man, good luck with everything !

 

[Arizona]

Picked up two atty's yesterday... The Derringer and the Doge X2 for the SMPL. Both are at .2 and performing like champs. I looked at 12 or so attys before settling on those two, mainly because the center pins are beefy and stick out a good amount to make me feel comfy using them. I really wanted a Royal Hunter, but that dang pin is just too questionable.

 

[Haadkoe]

Depending on the Atty, sometimes you can pull the center pin and grind down the negative, threaded part of the connector a bit, thus allowing the center pin to protrude a bit more.

Also, fwiw, I vented a vtc5 last week with my Veritas on a Smpl. Even though the center pin protruded quite a bit and did not seem to move when pressure was applied to the pin, there is a rubber grommett/oring in the base of the Veritas which had begun to wear and squish when a fresh battery was installed. Instant hot button and vented cell. Funny thing was that it wouldn't happen when screwing the Atty onto an ohm meter, making diagnosis challenging.

Pulled the pin, added another oring, all is well.

 

[Arizona]

That's a bit creepy!

 

[A. Nuss Braun]

I think you're misunderstanding me. I KNOW the battery rattle is adjusted via the switch. ;-) My problem is that I'm not comfy running the atty with such minimal protrusion, hence the reason I'm backing out the center pin a 1/4 turn. My concern is that when I adjust the switch for battery rattle, its gonna push that pin back up inside the 510 threading and create a short. I know for certain the Troll won't work on the SMPL, I'll shoot a pic of the Veil when I get home.

Take the atty apart, chuck the base into a lathe, carefully shave a few hundredths offa the 510 threading, polish, re-assemble, and check fit.

 

[PaulS]

I have two SMPLs - one has a Baal and the other a El Cabron. Both vape well with no peoblems. I tried an RTA on the first SMPL I owned when I first got it. I thought the pin protruded enough but I was wrong. Wrecked the battery but dsaved my RTA - I do not suggest any tanks on a hybrid - - play safe.