IPV D2, any owners? Am now wondering if I should of waited for this.

[conanthewarrior]

Hi people. I recently got the sigelei 75TC, which I really like, and it works great.

Thing is, I just seen the IPV D2 75WTC, and it looks TINY. It also says it runs one of YIHI's latest chips, whereas with the SIG I am not sure, when I check the chip by pulling the battery, there is no mention of YIHI, just code and version 2.1. I wonder if Yihi did work with sigelei though?

The IPV D2 works with both titanium and Ni200 wires, and even has a low juice warning.

It is also £5 cheaper than the sigelei. I shouldn't be as I have just got a 75W TC, but this is so tempting.

So, any owners of the device that can chime in, or even better owners of both the sigelei and IPV? TO kind of give a comparison? As I know the IPV 3 and 4 get rave reviews round here, I was thinking maybe this will be similar?

It no way makes me feel my sig is inferior, but I kind of wished I knew they would have that in stock in a few weeks, as I probably would of went for that, as it can use either Titanium as well as Ni200, and to be honest, the TC on the sig leaves it seeming a bit anemic, so I use it on power mode with Kanthal anyway.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Found another thread with the same question, someone said the Sigelei hands down as he had handled both, the D2 felt cheaply made and the sigelei felt quality and solid, which it does.

I feel no need to buy a near identical device to what I already own now lol. Just was worried I had made the wrong choice, but it is solid, and according to them, the better of the 2.

 

[UncleRJ]

From what I have heard, the IPV D2, even if it works is not well made.

Yep it is tiny.

Waiting to see if version 2.0 is better build quality.

 

[conanthewarrior]

From what I have heard, the IPV D2, even if it works is not well made.

Yep it is tiny.

Waiting to see if version 2.0 is better build quality.

I feel good now, as it feels like I made the right choice. Also, mine is apparently the latest batch, when I pull the battery and hold fire then replace it is revision 2.1, so may of ironed out issues, like the battery lasts me most of the day, I usually use power mode and Kanthal, but even with Ni200 and TC, batteries were not draining within an hour like some people were having, I was getting at least 5 hours, and I have only had it around a week or so so am still using it fairly heavily testing it, and I think 5-6 hours with temp control is acceptable for a 75Watt temperature control device.

It does feel quality in the hands though, and it also looks it. Seems for once I did something right!

I just want to know if the sigelei in house chip is just a modified YIHI as I suspect

 

[Mattp169]

What are you all talking about. Most of us in the other threads who actually own the D2 like it and find the build quality very nice. Mine is rock solid

 

[harpo1]

I own it as well and the build quality is right up there with all my other mods. Great little device and I love having the choice of Ni200 and Ti in Temp control mode.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

What are you all talking about. Most of us in the other threads who actually own the D2 like it and find the build quality very nice. Mine is rock solid

I think it depends what your idea of a quality device is, people say their IPV4 is well made and I think it's a janky piece of crap.

P4U should change their motto to "It works well but feels like shit".

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I think it depends what your idea of a quality device is, people say their IPV4 is well made and I think it's a janky piece of crap.

P4U should change their motto to "It works well but feels like shit".

I don't think my IPV3 Li or IPV2S feel like shit. I guess I just have low standards. I'm just messing around, I know exactly what you mean

 

[Lefty]

From what I have heard, the IPV D2, even if it works is not well made.

Yep it is tiny.

Waiting to see if version 2.0 is better build quality.

That would be the guy that had a mad on because of the barrel connector charge cord and not being able to borrow his buddies cord when he was out?
Then later when asked if he wanted to sell it said he was going to keep it, $50 worth all day?

 

[Maverik_X]

I don't think my IPV3 Li or IPV2S feel like shit. I guess I just have low standards. I'm just messing around, I know exactly what you mean

We are just cheap dates imo. The Li is a tank period. the d2 without the condom the paint will eventually become scratched. its not a $200 or even a $100 device its around half that. and what you get for the money is worth it Imo. buck for buck this thing puts the istick40tc to shame.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Sorry people, this wasn't meant to of turned into a bashing match of IPV vs Sigelei's TC mods lol.

I like the look of both devices, and am only going from what I have heard about the IPV D2, which made ME feel like I had made the right choice, as I did hear there was problems with the earlier sigelei 75Watt devices, such as the battery lasting an hour? Well mine DEFINITELY doesn't do that, it lasts around 5 hours in TC mode, or it works for the majority of the day, from morning till around 8PM in POWER mode, obviously the higher the wattage, the less it lasts, but for what I wanted it for, mainly a small form box mod, for tanks between 20-40 watts, it is great.

I also bought it incase I felt like I wanted to go a little more powerful, so I can use an RDA on it. The TC is just a nice bonus.

What is this talk about the IPV lead? I have heard this before, but am not sure what it means. What type of cable does the IPV devices use? As I noticed Shark vape said its a mix of a cable from 2 different decades lol? I am trying to think what they could of used, I guess one end is USB, not sure on the other.

I may even get MYSELF a IPV D2, as I like the look of it. I am just going to wait a little while for any issues to be ironed out, or a possible v2?

It's so small that appeals to me, just the build quality leaves me a bit worried, so I am hoping these get ironed out.

My sigelei is running software revision 2.1 on the chip, the shop said it was a newer batch when I got it, that was around 2 weeks ago, I was lucky as there was 3 left, and my mum lent me the money to buy it and I gave it back when I was payed. Otherwise, they are constantly out of stock as soon as they get in, but mine has no detectable problems, and I am more than happy, just the IPV size makes me want one!

 

[conanthewarrior]

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I'd have a 3Li right now if I hadn't read what a tank it was, several weeks ago. But when I step up in power the next time, it's still a front runner along with the Sig150.

Interesting about the paint. I'd heard similar about earlier models, are you speculating or has it started with this one.

Lastly... "buck for buck"? This D2 cost me exactly twice the $25 I paid for the 40TC. And $20 less than my Sig75. The Sig might...might, win on build quality over the D2, that remains to be seen. But the other two easily win so far on value (though not by miles and miles... the Sig rocks too).

I must say, the Sig150 is an excellent device. I honestly love mine. It was either the IPV V3 or the Sigelei, I know there is no software updates like the IPV, I think that is a really good feature that should be implemented in more devices- then you would not have to buy another device to get a later software build, you just patch it yourself!

But, hearing the quality of the 150, and the reliability of it made me choose it over the IPV. It has more power than I will ever need (Unless vaping at 500 watts becomes the next in thing in a year or so lol) and it feels quality when held. I checked for the loosening around the power button that the older models could have, where you would have to screw it back down, mine was stuck fast, I could not unscrew it, so brownie points there.

But, seriously, you won't regret the 150.

 

[conanthewarrior]

^ This. And that may be the way many of us are approaching it.
Considering the extra fitted condom... I just dropped an HE4 in and may not re-open it. We'll see.

Does it come with a condom like the Sigeleis do? I've always called the sleeves their condom too lol, as it offers protection and is a similar colour.

I'm yer huckleberry...
Sometimes the foaming fan boys need to be... checked. Like now for instance... Cheap build quality.
The barrel connector (and the very precept of obsolete 90s era connectors) is a piece of shit. <--- Ya' see that? That's a period.
"NOBODY" likes that ancient 2 cent POS connector better than a micro USB port... It was a verrry poor choice.
There was just too much gushing goin' on over in that thread...
So I pointed out the few problems in the D2 that to that point, had gone unmentioned in you guys' IPV bukake thread.

There are a couple minor bugs in the firmware. No sweat.
But this ain't no $200 mod. It's a $50 budget mod. And that shows in the design.

Here's another hardware example... we have a conical spring and a... TAB? And the tab is tweaking the spring laterally?! Wotdefut? Look at the acute angle bend... How many times do you think that will flex (replacing batts) before it breaks?

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So let's recap... We have a mod that we don't wanna R&R batteries on too much 'cause the tab might break...
...but we can't charge it 'cause we can't find the heretofore non-existent, bastardized cable with connectors from 2 different decades!... and can't buy one because they don't exist.
So the D2 kinda comes with it's own built in irony... or as you's guys might call it... an undocumented enhancement.

Is it worth 50 bucks as it sits? Hell yes, it is to me, but I'm handy. Plus I have a small herd of mods that share the burden.
But if I were on a strict '1 and only mod for the next year' kinda budget, I would wait for V2 or spend a little more for better design.

I like the IPV-D2, it performs great. But most importantly, it's tiny. I wanna buy another one.
But I'm gonna wait for V2 to fix the firmware and hopefully the other 2 design issues.

Come onnnn V2!


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Now, that does look dodgy. I really do want an IPV D2 because of its size, power, and also taking titanium as well as nickel, but maybe it will be worth waiting at least a month, or even longer?

How long do companies, in general, take to release their 'improved' version? (The one that should of come out originally most of the time lol).

As if it is like a year, I may well just buy a D2 in a few weeks to add to the collection. I can then directly compare them myself and be unbiased. It does LOOK like it is quality in the photos, but the proof is in the pudding when I get one.

Maybe in a fortnight if they have any in stock, as it is only £45 I might just buy one. It is cheaper than the Sigelei by £5, but has more features, so somewhere has to compensate for the cost difference. I think build quality may be one.

As I am quite handy, like shark vape says, I may get one. Was there any major problems with original units I should be aware of to look out for/ avoid, such as the first batch of sig75's draining the battery in an hour?

 

[Lefty]

I'm yer huckleberry...
Sometimes the foaming fan boys need to be... checked. Like now for instance... Cheap build quality.
The barrel connector (and the very precept of obsolete 90s era connectors) is a piece of shit. <--- Ya' see that? That's a period.
"NOBODY" likes that ancient 2 cent POS connector better than a micro USB port... It was a verrry poor choice.
There was just too much gushing goin' on over in that thread...
So I pointed out the few problems in the D2 that to that point, had gone unmentioned in you guys' IPV bukake thread.

There are a couple minor bugs in the firmware. No sweat.
But this ain't no $200 mod. It's a $50 budget mod. And that shows in the design.

Here's another hardware example... we have a conical spring and a... TAB? And the tab is tweaking the spring laterally?! Wotdefut? Look at the acute angle bend... How many times do you think that will flex (replacing batts) before it breaks?

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So let's recap... We have a mod that we don't wanna R&R batteries on too much 'cause the tab might break...
...but we can't charge it 'cause we can't find the heretofore non-existent, bastardized cable with connectors from 2 different decades!... and can't buy one because they don't exist.
So the D2 kinda comes with it's own built in irony... or as you's guys might call it... an undocumented enhancement.

Is it worth 50 bucks as it sits? Hell yes, it is to me, but I'm handy. Plus I have a small herd of mods that share the burden.
But if I were on a strict '1 and only mod for the next year' kinda budget, I would wait for V2 or spend a little more for better design.

I like the IPV-D2, it performs great. But most importantly, it's tiny. I wanna buy another one.
But I'm gonna wait for V2 to fix the firmware and hopefully the other 2 design issues.

Come onnnn V2!


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I can honestly say at 61 that's the first time I've ever been described as a foaming fanboy. DC barrel connectors have been around since the '70's. I don't recall one breaking on me, the cord, yes, the connector itself, no. While micro usb is useful it's not the most durable connection around. Yer not gonna find the cable hanging from the display at Walmart, but you will at Office Depot, at least my local one. I'll happily be a guinea pig on the battery clip, which is really quite similar to most battery sleds, as I plan to swap batteries and only use the cable when needed. I'm fairly confident it's going to outlast the internal battery mods I have or at least until it's regulated to the back burner by a new toy. It most certainly has some quirks. The menu speed, especially when selecting temperature, remind me that I don't have the reflexes I once did. Like you say, $50 all day.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Why does multi-pass quote put them in reverse fookin' order?




That was me forgetting it was your thread and not typing SIG 150TC. I haven't checked but I'm under the impression that you have the 150, I was referring to the angular, newer TC mod vs. the IPV3Li.



It has USB on the "wall" end and a 1/8th inch/3mm barrel plug on the mod end.
A certain downside is... no data. So no firmware updates.
But it's solid, may carry marginally more power and there may have been design considerations to keep them from using micro-USB on the mod/board. Dunno. Don't really care.

Ahh, sorry I did not realise. I only have the standard 150, the 150 TC did not interest me as much as the 75 TC did. It may well be a great device though, but I have no idea as I haven't even held one lol.

And I see what you mean about the cables now, its not the end of the world though is it for IPV owners? I thought one of the perks of the IPV's was that you COULD software update them, or is that only the IPV4? As I thought that was a great idea, that should be implemented by more companies. Instead of having your day 1 unit replaced, you could just patch it yourself with the newest software (Unless of course it is a hardware problem, then thats a different story)

 

[Wingsfan0310]

The IPV3 LI and IPV2S can also be updated (I've already updated both). For whatever reason P4Y didn't include that feature for the D2 (maybe cost or the chip itself).

Edit. That's probably the main reason I didn't preorder it. Not for extra power (70 + watts is it for a single 18650), but to fix glitches.

 

[Mattp169]

software updateability is a gimmick to me. And not something I care too much about. If its there great, if not, OH WELL. I never needed to update my isticks or egos.

we found barrel connectors to usb on ebay for like $5 for 2 4ft cables with free shipping.

ONLY TIME will tell if that clip is an issue on the sled.

But for $50 if your expecting it to be PERFECT and the greatest thing since slice bread, you kidding yourself.

It seems well built, it seems durable, it works, it has 75 watts, it does Ni200 and Ti TC,its form factor is perfect for me. Is it better then a SIg 75tc? no clue. I dont own a Sig 75TC. But th esig 75TC looked UGLY to me and I liked the look of the D2, so i went with the D2.

 

[Lefty]

I wouldn't be concerned if I had purchased the Sig 75TC. It's likely a perfectly fine mod. I haven't held or used one but the Sig's have been solid in their recent mods. Of course there's no real cure for shinyitus.

 

[conanthewarrior]

I am used to the more boxy mods, originally it was Ego's and Ce4's a few years ago, and I come back a few months ago to this. Ended up getting a sig30 mini as my first new mod, and I have stuck to the box styles, so I think that is why I like it.

I also like the look of the D2 as well though, I did not realise there was such a divide in the community lol, all I am glad about is everyone has said about Sigeleis reliability (Even though the 30 took a turd on my missus and will only put out its minimum watts, a 50 watt is on the way for her, should be here by tuesday).

 

[conanthewarrior]

The IPV3 LI and IPV2S can also be updated (I've already updated both). For whatever reason P4Y didn't include that feature for the D2 (maybe cost or the chip itself).

Edit. That's probably the main reason I didn't preorder it. Not for extra power (70 + watts is it for a single 18650), but to fix glitches.

Ahh ok. I thought some could be updated .

Now, why do I want another 75 watt TC mod when I already have one? I think I may be getting GAS similar to in guitars and other hobbies, not a good thing for the wallet lol.

 

[Mattp169]

conan either mod is great, its just a preference imho. Some are jaded about the shit Pioneer pulled with the IPV 4 I never had a pioneer mod before, and I like mone. Maybe teh sig is better quality, I honestly dont know. SIg has a great reputation. I just know I am very happy with my D2 and am not regretting buying it.

 

[conanthewarrior]

conan either mod is great, its just a preference imho. Some are jaded about the shit Pioneer pulled with the IPV 4 I never had a pioneer mod before, and I like mone. Maybe teh sig is better quality, I honestly dont know. SIg has a great reputation. I just know I am very happy with my D2 and am not regretting buying it.

I feel the sam about my sig, but the d2 DOES tempt me still for some reason.

I do not know why, as I already have a 75W TC device lol. I guess I am a bit hooked on devices. I am glad they are not super expensive, like yoyo's (Yes, one of my hobbies is yoyo's) a good one of them is about £40-50, then you get to the japanese yoyo's and you are talking 100's of pounds, but these yoyo's are not like we grew up with, they no longer return to your hand with a tug, you have to perform a bind to make it return, but you get 10 plus minute sleepers fairly easily, allowing you to combo tricks for ages.

 

[conanthewarrior]

well the D2 is a decent mod,,its size is rather awkward to hold for my hands ,only comfortable position i have found yet is hitting fire button with the 1st knuckle of my thumb
can somebody post a side by side of the D2 and siggy 75 TC ??

Ahh, that doesnt sound too good. I have fairly small hands for a bloke, do you think I would also experience this? As I like having the mod fully in my hand, with my thumb on the fire button, its just what I am used to and is comfortable for me.

 

[conanthewarrior]

If I'm honest, I count the sig75TC as small, its virtually the same size as the 30 watt mini! If this is even smaller, it might be my ADV, which the 75 currently is. I have been vaping moderately on TC 0.12 coil, and the battery is still half full.

I changed it at 6pm (jusst gone 12 AM) for a new Efest 2900MAH (I know, Efest, but I think these may actually be up to a 25 amp battery, if true, they will be one of the best available. I am just waiting for a welll known user here to post test results when he gets his, but I have took them up to 30 AMP no problem, 15 minute test fired for 7 seconds each time, no sign of excess heat, venting, or stress on the battery. They claim 35Amp but I doubt this, but have been told they may be 25 amp. They are also 2800MAH, just labeled 2900MAH to distinguish them from the older 2800MAH that vented at like 14 watts) But this is still half full, and they do last slightly longer than a 25R does.

 

[Maverik_X]

I have playing around with my D2 for a few hours now ,honestly i am just not impressed in the slightest !! vape is far from consistent

with a .09 coil set at room temp it comes in around .110 ohms ,set at 50 joules i get hardly any vape ,ego batt with any clearo would out do it !!
if i torch the coil and set the resistance while its still hot,i get a higher ohm reading and that produces some real vape

most likely gonna put it up for sale or trade at this rate

are you using it in ni200 or ti01 joules mode?

 

[Maverik_X]

28ga ni200 ,and this is some of the easiest wire to work with too

ok so are using the coil select in the menu system on ni200 or ti01?

 

[Lefty]

In one of my first two Isub head rebuilds with 28g tempered I got a pretty anemic result from one and good with the other. Even though it checked out fine and was very close in resistance to the one with good output. I suspect I was running into a temp limiting deal for whatever reason. Rebuilt it and much improved. May not have any bearing on your results but...

 

[Maverik_X]

what about your temp setting are you setting it at 400 ish degrees?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Joules is like watts (power), the temperature is a limit. So the joules are basically how fast your going to reach your set temp. Once there, the mod reduces or cuts power to keep you there, at least that's how its supposed to work

 

[Maverik_X]

ooooooh it was at 302 ,now it is at 409 and the vape is better

now i am little confused,,whats the point of having adjustable joules then ???????

glad you figured it out. now enjoy and vape on!

 

[Maverik_X]

so in short,,joules is the speed of the voltage flow ,until you reach the set temp

more like watts. a joule is equal to 1 watt second.
but yes the higher the joules the faster your going to get to where you set the temp.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I was talking to a car guy and I told him think of Joules as the accelerator and think as the temperature as the governor (limiter). You can either get to your set speed fast by mashing the accelerator (crank the joules) or get there slow by feathering the pedal (lower joules) or somewhere in between. Some people want the immediate in your face power (high joules), some want to build up slower (lower joules). Some want a hot vape (higher temp) some want a cooler (lower temp) vape. They work together,

Cheers,
Steve

 

[conanthewarrior]

I think in 2 weeks, on payday, this will be my next order. I do not know why, as I have a 75W TC device, but I really like how small it is and how it looks. Just a bit confused with the joules added in, I suppose that will be something eles for me to play with though! I hope somewhere has it in stock in 2 week so I can get it in the UK, I can the directly compare it to the sigelei. I think the sig will stay as my ADV with my lemo at around 30 watts, I like the size.

This could all change when I get the d2 though, but for its price, I really want it. I would of spent that money on ciggarettes in about 5 days, so its not exactly expensive. Will have to get myself a few more batteries for my growing collection too.

 

[Jake2030]

I ordered the D2 and received it. I only ws using Ti coil for temp control. I did set the settings to Ti. I actually sent mine back. When I would set the resistance in the .2xx range it just kept giving me no juice message on the screen. I had the temp set to 350 and I was getting so many no juice messages it was unvapable. If I would set the resistance in the .3xx range it did much better. The .3 settings was out of the range for Temp control though and was not sure if it would monitor temp correctly and was nervous about it. I loved the size and the way it sat in my hand though. It felt well made on the outside, don't know about the inside. I got an e-mail from the store tonight saying they credited my account and I could use it for something else. Didn't really see anything else I liked. The SMY 60 mini just didn't trip my trigger. Looked to much like a TV to me. Also looked to thick. They had Hcigar vt40 that was a nice looking mod, thought about paying the difference, but not sure if 40 watts would be enough, and I only use Ti wire so not sure how that would work out. Loved the feel of the little D2,but I was just nervous about how it would not work correctly if I set the resistance within the limits. Wondering if they will come out with a v2 that will correct the issue I was having and how long if they do. I have a burning hole in my pocket knowing I have that credit sitting at that store and they don't really have anything I want at the moment.

 

[dre]

350 is to low it won't vape with titanium till above 420 and even that is a anemic till about 480 is when its dense up to 550.

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[Jake2030]

Yea, I set the resistance. When I would set it with the Ti coils it would usually be in the .2xx range. That is when I noticed it would consistently give me the no juice message. I could set it again before it cooled down and get it in the .3xx range and it did much better. I think I did set the temp up to 400 and tried that,but as long as the resistance was in the .2xx range just got no juice messages all the time. Like I said I wasn't sure it would work correctly if I set it in the .3xx range since it was out of its ohm range for Temp control..

 

[Jake2030]

I really liked the size and form of the device. I really did not want a big device. I would rather carry an extra battery than have a bigger mod with 2 batteries. I am considering just ordering it again. The only thing I have seen that I might like as well is the Kooper mini, but 101 vapes does not carry it. It is a small mod also.

 

[ohmahgoodness]

i created an account just to reply to Jake2030. You need to vape on it for the no juice to disappear. Theres a review who showed the no juice message, but once vape it goes away. Perhaps you are not meant to own a D2 and should get a EVOD

 

[Ruben]

My all day bring to work get knocked around mod is a d2. Size to power wise its unbeatable, it's .125 inches fatter then the eleaf Istick 40w TC. I don't like on board charging at all, so the barrel charger is a moot point for me. I understand why they did it, as it is a sturdier connection then a micro usb, and it's located on the bottom of the mod where it will get knocked around. I've used to to push a kanthal dual coil in a velocity, single Ni200, and various prebuilt TC coils in sub ohm tanks. The finish is holding up, build quality is good and it feel better in my hand then the sharp edges of the Sig 75.

 

[Jake2030]

I have the IPV D2, the kanger kbox mini, and the kooper mini 60 watt TC. I like all 3 of them. I have the Kooper and the IPV for temp control. I only have used Ti wire for the temp control. Don't want to use nickel. I am not convinced the temp control is worth it for me. I guess my palette is not as sensitive as some other peoples. I really can't taste that much difference. I am not sure it is worth the extra trouble to go with temp control for me. You have a couple of tanks with Ti, then some with kanthal. The tanks with Ti have to go on the temp control mods. For me, it is just simpler I think to stay with Kanthal. Like I said, I like all 3 of the above mods. The kooper is tougher on a battery than the other 2 though. I use mostly kanger subtanks, usually build from .8 to 1.2 so usually just vape at 15 to 23 watts so really don't need anything that pushes out high wattage. I think the paint issue is true on the IPV, but with the silicon sleeve it is not a problem. I like the way the ipv feels in the hand also. I think I saw them for 42.00 bucks somewhere on sale. If it wasn't for the battery life I would like the Kooper better I think though, think I paid 39.00 for the Kooper.